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    How are you all making your show music available to your visitors? We have a situation where we can not play the music over speakers (neighbors) and not all of our visitors will be in their cars. I've read in various places that bluetooth would never be synchronized... was thinking maybe a conference call or a zoom meeting or something where I could use something like OBS to send the music to the call and then visitors could use their cell phones to call into the show music feed? Other thoughts here?

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    I would be worried that there would be a fairly significant delay, unless you're publishing the video and the audio. But in that case, there would be no need to visit.
    Any thoughts on little kiosk stations? With speakers at a low volume? Or maybe headphones? I guess that would depend on the foot traffic you are expecting.
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    I am anxious to see someone try to sync a show not over speakers or FM. There must be a way. Maybe conference call software. Would be interesting to try.

    Bluetooth - lag is dependent on receiving device buffers. (This same kind of receiving buffer lag is affecting some newer FM radios in car and trucks already.)
    Conference call software - should be nearer real time given the improvements this last year. At work, Teams works reasonably well but there is a bit of lag as one my frequent meeting buddies sits in the same room and there is just that milliseconds of delay. I would not call it annoying and I think it might be really close. If it was consistent lag, adjust via offset?
    Facebook live - never used it so can't talk about how it works.
    App that streams the music and syncs to FPP sync marks. Hmm? Any really smart mobile developers out there?
    I see from my research discord has listen to music synced together.
    How about a streaming web page with FPP sync marks? Smart people?

    You know, music sync has been a topic for a while. Seven years ago, there was this attempt. https://github.com/agrbin/streamer Was not actively enhanced but it is html and javascript so maybe something to build on. There are a couple of apps that do music syncing but even html5 seems to have a decent set of methods and events to play with https://www.w3schools.com/tags/ref_av_dom.asp This one specifically to set current location in music seems to be of use: https://www.w3schools.com/tags/av_prop_currenttime.asp

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    Has anyone heard of or used SoundSeeder? I happend across them when doing a search for syncronized audio. https://soundseeder.com/

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    Haven't heard of it, but their advertisement started an interest here.
    They claim wifi with sync among all devices. I wonder how much lag/delay, if any, is induced using this method.
    If anyone has one and can give us some feedback, please let us know.

    Big reason for looking outside of the FM realm (something we will continue, but we are open to newer additional options) is the problem of newer vehicles having the ability to time-shift music coming in. Essentially making the lights blink before the sound is received. I've done it in my own vehicle and was not very happy - until I found the proper buttons on this new radio.

    Please keep us informed with what you find out. Thanks.
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    We need something because of the neighborhood... we can't use speakers and with streets so narrow and limited parking... wanted our mostly walking show to be able to have audio on the visitor's phone.

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    There in is one thing that we have to look at...
    What is the difference between you having speakers, and a crowd of viewers each having their cell phones out and playing "hands-free"?

    What will be even worse is if the phones do not stay in sync with the display. Oh my.
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    Headphone and earbuds and gaps when no one is around at all.

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    Curious why you can't use speakers? I turn my show and speakers off at 10:00PM sharp due to city ordinances regarding sound.

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    It is a commercial site and "guests" don't want to hear it for hours. Same is true for neighbors on the north and south.

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