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lbro
08-27-2008, 02:04 PM
Okay, the discussion has been started. It does not matter to me if it is held at a commercial venue or at someone's house. My opinion about the venue was out of towners could stay at the hotel were it is being held.

The point of this post is to see what the overall opinion of the group is.

Are people willing to commit a non-refundable amount of money, for argument sakes, say $30 to help cover the cost of reserving the room. Then what ever the final cost of the room + food is, that price would be what it would cost to attend. The idea of a non-refundable deposit would show how serious people are, and it would make sure that there is enough to at least pay for the room.

OR

Leave well enough alone, stay at someones house and just make the changes to the format that have been suggested. This has nothing against Greg or Jeff, They did great jobs of hosting. Greg has been given parent approval to host next years as well. I have no problem of driving back down there next year if it is there.

Once the poll ends at the end of the month, we can move forward on plans for next year. either way, it takes time to do.

Thanks everyone!!!

MrLights2000
08-27-2008, 02:18 PM
i like going to someone house but i dont think it would be a bad idea to have it at a hotel or something only because then everyone pays and its not just one person paying for everything. where ever it is me and my dad will be there no matter what.

danny

lbro
09-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Well, it looks like next years may be a little light.:-)

TERBObob
09-12-2008, 05:24 PM
Which , ( without sounding too rude ) might be giving you your answer , in an indirect way ?

lbro
09-12-2008, 10:34 PM
Which , ( without sounding too rude ) might be giving you your answer , in an indirect way ?

I was just joking because there were only 8 votes. No real choice has been made at this point because of so few people responded. Let's see how it goes.....

Jeff Millard
09-13-2008, 09:16 PM
I don't think you are going to get a good answer without us chasing down all the people who will attend asking them directly through email or over the phone. From what I could gather from the two meetings I held... folks think about it in the back of their minds and post from time to time, but don't commit until the date is bearing down on them.

Cheerlead rant on...

Is it our intent to create an annual DIY convention in the Philly area at a pro venue that includes vendors and actual classes with instructors chosen from this group's leaders? I think that is a perfect utopia, but it excludes quite a few things. Like people who don't see Philly as a local (Yes, I too would have driven to Philly from North Carolina to be with you folks...) I think one person stated the mini @ Greg's house seemed like a bunch of old friends getting together.

My 2 cents: I think it's time for the gathering to burst out of it's cocoon and launch itself into the next level. That will take time, planning, money and commitment. It will also take focus from a leader. Don't waste your time looking to me for that, as those of you who went to Greg's house know what work will do to my schedule. I can't imagine how angry Dawn would have been with me if it had been at my house this year.

Brian, Wayne, Frank, Lou, Ron, Glenn (GS, you're one of the originals too!) can you guys ring in on this and let's see what you have to say about it. DIYC has become something much more than just an annual gathering of friends. To have an actual Micro Convention with booths for vendors who commit to attend... and scheduled classes on all the things we're into here... (I was going to list some of it but I just walked the dog and I'm really tired)

Part of the problem with this issue of discussion about our annual event, is the fact that our displays will always take our attention away from it. Our involvement in this community will always take our attention away from it. Even our lives for that matter. Is it important enough to keep the chatter at the forefront? Or should we just do as we've done the last couple years and wait until the beginning of the summer to plan and execute our event? I know I voted for the casual event format the last two years, but I think it's time we commit. (Mr. Murphy is now planning some odd electrical distribution reason to exclude me from involvement, so I guess it's easy for me to MMQB)

If it is to grow into something really important to the community, it needs to be a topic of regular discussion. If it falls back into a dead thread that needs to be bumped again you are all welcome to come to my house next summer sometime and meet again... I miss you and really wish I had seen you this year. But how cool would it be to actually be planning a convention, and talking to your like-minded friends much more than every once in a while?

Cheerlead rant off...

Jeff

Macrosill
09-14-2008, 09:07 AM
This topic seems to raise its head every year. Some want more than a simple gathering. I can understand that perspective. I can also understand the ones who want to keep things small and on a more friendly level. I always say "Be careful what you wish for because you just might get it" and "The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence until you get there". I am not saying one is better than the other or voicing an opinion at this time. I am only thinking out loud and trying to get everyone's wheels spinning. As one of the people who had a grand vision of DIYC a few years ago I want to see nothing less than this place become the premier place on the web for all things blinky flashy. I would love to see us surpass everything any other blinky flashy site has done to date. DIYC is like a 4th child to me.

Obviously an event held at a public venue will take lots of planning and forethought from lots of people. Obviously it will take monetary backing. Obviously it will take lots of leg work by more than a single person. This is a huge undertaking and requires the commitment from more than a few people to plan it and make it a success.

If this is the route "we" want to go then we need to form a committee and start some serious talks. We need to discuss location, logistics, costs, topics, lodging, vendors, staff, instructors and a bot load of other things I can not think of now. I would envision a committee of more than the seasoned vets but we may need to stick to just the seasoned vets for the 1st one. We need to decide if it will be annual or something else. Will it be in the same location each year?

I guess I get the task of spearheading this event, lucky me! LOL I would need volunteers to assist in this. Anyone raising their hand? Once I get a couple of committed members I will make an announcement in a more public forum to bring this to the attention of the membership at large, not just the Philly Mini readers.

lbro
09-15-2008, 09:49 AM
I guess I get the task of spearheading this event, lucky me! LOL I would need volunteers to assist in this. Anyone raising their hand? Once I get a couple of committed members I will make an announcement in a more public forum to bring this to the attention of the membership at large, not just the Philly Mini readers.

I have offered to take this on with help for awhile. IMO I would start small. See how the first year would go. That is why I said doing something near the Airport. People could travel into Philadelphia to see some of the historic sites If they wanted. Heck, If there were enough people interested, I would lead a small walking tour of the main things to see.

If the first year went well, we could always plan something in the Wildwoods. That way there is the beach and rides for the rest of the family that think we are nuts. There are so many ideas, we just need to get together to get somethig rolling.

Ronp
09-15-2008, 11:48 AM
I think this should be posted in the main forum and put up a servey
to see who what and exspecialy WERE this event should take place.
Personaly I dont think philly is central enough for alot of members.
holding it on the east coast may limit the atendance to the same 15-20ish
that go each year anyway.I would love to see 100 or more at the first one.
I may just start attending diferent small ones .Im thinking Fla this year lol

lbro
09-15-2008, 12:08 PM
The reason I say this general area are the following:

It started in the Philly area with the original at Jeff's house.

If I were to take the lead on this, frankly it would be easier to do the planning being close to me. (central location is in the middle of the country, that is to far to plan something for me, how would I check the place out among other things)

I am familiar with the area so I would know where to avoid.

This is a major city, 5th largest I believe, so it is not in the middle of nowhere.

Plenty of things to do locally. We have one of the oldest cities.
http://www.gophila.com/

The beaches are 1.5 to 2 hrs away. Atlantic City, Wildwoods, Cape May, and others.
http://www.atlanticcitynj.com/
http://www.wildwoodsnj.com/
http://www.capemay.com/

Lancaster County, with the Strasburgh RailRoad is 1.5 hrs away, Alot of Model train places there, including the National Toy Train Museum.
http://www.padutchcountry.com/
http://www.strasburgrailroad.com/


They just opened a Harrah's 2 miles away (if people like that)
http://www.harrahs.com/casinos/harrahs-chester/casino-misc/casino-overview.html

I, by all means, am not saying my way or nothing, I liked it at Greg's place, but people that were new felt left out. I think we need to make it more Professional if we want to make it grow. I would be more than happy to go back to Greg's next year.

Ronp
09-15-2008, 01:26 PM
The point I was trying to make is I can drive to VA in the same amount of time it takes me to go to Philly(unless you can move Ny for the weekend.... lol

Last mini took 10 hrs to drive

lbro
09-15-2008, 01:39 PM
I understand Ron, but if we move it to anywhere, it will be far for someone. That is why we need to discuss the options. I gave my opinion, lets get others. Maybe there is something staring us in the face we all are missing.

I was thinking off people that could make it a long weekend or something like that. They would have other things for the family to do.

GS
09-18-2008, 09:02 PM
Either commercial or residential work for me.
Commercial would take more up front work and commitment, but that might help to take it to the next level. It would be much less stress on the host and give everyone a chance to mingle longer. A place off 95 or 295 should be easy for most to get to.
Glenn

lbro
10-11-2008, 07:42 PM
It looks like there were not to many people wanting to pick on this one. So I say if Greg will have us back. We will come. And I will bring cookies:-)

kostyun
10-12-2008, 02:24 AM
I'll see if I can bring myself this year also - missed all you gys this past year!

CP1
10-27-2008, 05:29 PM
Speaking as a Noobie, I thank Greg and his family for welcoming all of us into their home. (Dont take that out of context, I know the rest of you do also.) It took a great effort to have people coming to your home that you have never met before and making them all feel welcome. From my stand point of being new to this hobby, I liked the fact that it was at someones home and not a commercial gig. I felt that I was actually going into a place that I could feel more relaxed and feel free to ask all sorts of questions and learn at my pace instead of the need to adjust to a pace that was group controlled. I felt at ease seeing all of the displays and being able to learn all that I did with out the pressure of a larger group environment. Dont take me wrong on this, I do hope that the group expands and that lots of new people come in but from a newcomers point of view, I think it was a much warmer environment at Gregs house than it would have been if it was held at a hotel or center.

CP1

Macrosill
10-28-2008, 09:24 AM
I can understand the intimidation factor of a commercial venue.

One of the reasons some were less than thrilled with the way things went this year was that we were broken up into 3 or 4 separate places. You did not know what was happening inside if you were outside. Maybe you missed something you were really interested in. Maybe the few of us who setup outside were not near our gear when others had questions for us because we were inside. If we can go back to Greg's house next year again we can all gather outside on the lawn in a large group. We would still be at Greg's but get some of the benefits of a large open setting.

Thoughts?

lbro
10-28-2008, 11:26 AM
Greg and I have talked about this in the past. There will be more structure. Not set in stone, but more scheduled to keep the group together. If you are not interested in the topic being discussed at the time, that is the time to grab a bite to eat and take a dip in the pool.:-)

I really believe, we need to keep it friendly as a group of friends getting together, but we also need to keep it moving as one group, not three or four.

This is an easy fix guys/gals. So don't get hung up on this point. As a mtter of fact, I am already moving forward on this, and will discuss it when we get closer.

Wayne J
01-04-2009, 10:09 PM
I would like to possibly have the Mini moved to PA,
See my post about a Mini here...
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5893