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CDN_Diesel
12-18-2012, 09:43 PM
I thought here might be a good place for members to share sequences for HLS.

We have a section for library files, so why not sequences. I am not sure if this will pan out, but worth a shot.

Now my only question, is what file(s) need to be zipped and uploaded? I zipped up the whole folder of the one sequence and it is 160+ mb zipped for 16 channels.

JHinkle
12-18-2012, 10:12 PM
With the exception of your audio ...

Click SAVE when using Version 10T or later.

The HLS file is self contained .... sequence and database.

Zip it and that all you need to pass on.

I'll let you decide what to do about the song.

Joe

CDN_Diesel
12-19-2012, 12:08 AM
Thanks Joe.

well then, here is my first shared sequence if anyone wants it. It is 16 channels and was converted from LOR(S2).

17122

CDN_Diesel
12-19-2012, 12:10 AM
I will add this one also, if for nothing else, you can get the beat track and a few effects for timing. Again 16 channel coverted from LOR(S2).

TSO - Wish Liszt

17124

angus40
12-19-2012, 12:15 AM
thanks for sharing :)

CDN_Diesel
12-19-2012, 12:19 AM
thanks for sharing :)

Welcome. Lets hope it catches on.

Lionking_Tx
12-19-2012, 12:35 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing may steal from it to get at least one more song done :)

Unfortunately I can not really share my sequence - it's 50mb compressed :(

mkozik1
12-19-2012, 12:59 AM
So I downloaded both files as I want to work with this program and have not been too successful so far, but it states it is missing a pcm file. I am assuming this is the audio file? I am also assuming that without an audio file there is nothing to display in the grid cause mine is blank.

JHinkle
12-19-2012, 01:14 AM
If all you did was load the shared file - then yes - you have nothing.

You did not tell HLS to extract the effects from the internally stored effect data.

When you start HLS - instead of clicking to load an HLS file - further down the menu it says "Open HLS and use Internal Database".

That will extract the effects.

HLS will complain that it can't find the audio PCM file - so you might want to create it BEFORE you do the import.

Start as if you are going to do your own sequence and load the audio. This will create the PCM file.

Move that PCM file into the folder where you do the import described above.

NOW - you have audio and effects.

Depending on how many channels your shared sequence has - it may take awhile to import - once done - its all there.

Joe

CDN_Diesel
12-19-2012, 01:20 AM
Thanks a lot for sharing may steal from it to get at least one more song done :)

Unfortunately I can not really share my sequence - it's 50mb compressed :(

that is ok, you are using RGB. I am not yet.

I started this to see if it could help others out as they start with small sequences.

It would be nice if we could share larger files. I guess that is what "dropbox" is for. :)

mkozik1
12-19-2012, 01:32 AM
Got it - Thanks Joe!!

CDN_Diesel
12-19-2012, 01:36 AM
Well, here is one more that I did. This is my first sequence from scratch. It is only at 48 channels. I am planning 88-96 channels, but it has the main parts. I cut the song short to 2:13.5, then added a second or so of silence to the end.

Use what you want, change what you need. Be sure to give credit to Brian Havig Comedy if you use it.

NOTE: in the channel names, SL_CR_Left = SpotLight_CenterRoof_left, etc. and M_Tree_red, etc. is Maple Tree. Everything else is as stated.
SL_MR_Left = SpotLight_MidRoof_Left, etc.

17129

Here is the youtube video for it. It will give you and idea of where I cut the song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ985LuH-6c

timon
01-01-2013, 08:53 AM
If there is a way it would be nice to have the export show all of the groups so you could check the ones to export with all being the default. Would be nice for doing faces and other group effects. If this is already doable then please ignore this.

Dennis Cherry
01-02-2013, 02:21 PM
Joe should the "Open HLS and use Internal Database" be renamed as "Import HLS and use Internal Database"?

JHinkle
01-02-2013, 02:48 PM
Done.

Joe

angus40
01-02-2013, 08:39 PM
I am very surprised at the low response to this . Also 0 comments with near 200 views of my 20 plus videos on vimeo.

CDN_Diesel
01-02-2013, 10:34 PM
Well, I am not surprised at the low responses to the vimeo tutorials, and am not overly concerned with the lack of comments. I have watched all of them a few times, and frequently go back to them when I am looking up how do do something with HLS. I also do the same with Joe's videos.

It would really be nice if others shared files also, but HLS is only a year old. I would hope that this does catch on by this time next year.

CDN_Diesel
01-02-2013, 10:42 PM
And with that being said, here is another 16 channel sequence.... Again, a LOR(S2) conversion with a few tweaks.
17385

jlowe
01-02-2013, 11:43 PM
I'm following everything closely. I'm just in absorption mode currently, so have little to say/contribute.

But I appreciate all the work being done, both by Joe and by those making the tutorial videos and wiki.

Livermore-Dad
01-03-2013, 12:23 AM
As noted I put no sequences together this year, I used the output test and mixed colors for static lighting (white/blue etc), and used a basic fade between colors. Other than the firework one, but that's not really a sequence.
I'm still finding that I'm going back to the vids, before I bother Joe :).

As I dive into real sequencing I hope to be able to add more.

Tory

jeffl
01-03-2013, 01:15 AM
Is there an HLS video for total newbies? I have watched a few but they are too advanced for me. I come from LOR s3 with no RGB so I have an idea, I just need to understand how to do things in HLS.

OriginalHotrodder
01-03-2013, 01:58 AM
I used HLS to light up my mini (12') Mega Tree this season and it worked great. I was thinking of sharing the little sequence I put together to make my tree come to life but it's so simple I didn't believe that it would not have any worth to anyone. As I was typing this I began thinking that even as simple as it is, it might have some value to those who are getting started with HLS. One of the most difficult things in learning sequencing is getting started. Don't try to create a Holdman Christmas when you are first learning but keep it simple. Maybe by seeing my simple little sequence might give others to confidence to fire up HLS and get started creating their own. One suggestion I can offer is when learning a sequencing software, don't worry about sequencing to music at first. It's more important to learn how to make the lights do what you want, then it's a simple matter of lining up the action with the music later. After finishing this post I'll upload my "3 minutes of silence" sequence that helped entertain our visitors this year. Thank you for helping make this a great Christmas season Joe H.
Here is the sequence: 17393

CDN_Diesel
01-03-2013, 02:08 AM
Thanks Hotrodder.

Jeffl, could you post what you think would be of benefit to a total newbie? I could then work out and do a tutorial. I can then take what you say, mix it with what I have in mind, and work on it this weekend.

jeffl
01-03-2013, 09:27 AM
I will do some thinking about the things I have questions over and put a list together. Thank you.

jeffl
01-03-2013, 09:21 PM
Here is the basic video ideas I have. Most of these we never think about but a newbie would need to know and would be a newbies training wheels.

Download and install HLS

Create a basic sequence and play
Setup new basic channels
Setup visual viewing screen. I'm not sure what it's called.
Add effects to channels. i.e on/off fade etc
Setup an adapter
Play the sequence

Advanced topic
How to convert from vixen and LOR to HLS

Advanced topic
How to setup a setup a play list
How to schedule a show

Livermore-Dad
01-03-2013, 09:56 PM
Here is the basic video ideas I have. Most of these we never think about but a newbie would need to know and would be a newbies training wheels.

Download and install HLS

Create a basic sequence and play
Setup new basic channels
Setup visual viewing screen. I'm not sure what it's called.
Add effects to channels. i.e on/off fade etc
Setup an adapter
Play the sequence

Advanced topic
How to convert from vixen and LOR to HLS

Advanced topic
How to setup a setup a play list
How to schedule a show

Those are good, including the beat track, using sticky channels and some basic hints on sequencing (I'm still learning and this is the hardest part, putting blinky flashy to song!)

Tory

CDN_Diesel
01-03-2013, 11:17 PM
ok, Angus 40 has a good tutorial on downloading and installing I have one done on the Preview (visual viewing screen as you call it). Those are all good points. go to the tutorials section of HLS on these forums for the videos and any new ones coming out soon. I can do the basic ones and will start with an updated download and install.

Richard, are you up for doing the advanced ones? You are more proficient than I am there. About the only advanced topic in the list is converting LOR to HLS. I will do that one.

angus40
01-04-2013, 01:00 AM
Just thinking aloud here . but your thoughts interest me .

we all measure our selves by others input and opinions .


I could be wrong in my thinking here but are to many how to videos a bad thing ?

(would this take the fun of learning out of the diyc part and dumb down the user )?

Limit expectation and bite into hls with eyes open , kick the tires and have a few dozen plays with it .

once you feel around in the editor and you familiarize your self with the tool bars etc . you will see that hls basically has 5 parts

the front end =
1) audio functions and manage channels

2) the grid = the editor itself

3) out put = where you configure you devices connection type and protocol

4) preview = A seperate screen to draw/paint your channels , a bitmap image can be added to the preview .

5) plenty of tools to experiment with

I have to laugh a bit here , remember that this site is Diyc :) the y= yourself !

This means that we will have to figure some things out by trial and error our selves . the fun of Diyc is figuring out what is between the lines .

I have a feeling that the fun might be lost here by flooding diyc with how to videos of a-z .

I know there seems to be a lot to learn but that is the fun of it and the reward is figuring it out .


There is plenty of how to videos in the hls video forum that will help any novice get hls up and running .

Brian , you are a prime example of this , joining here less than 2 months ago and running a show with hls for 2012

I will however do a video on pixel planes and segments because this is a fairly new addition that can be confusing.

as far as preview that is something Joe is working on and that video will be on hold until he completes it.

the only videos that seem to be lacking is conversion videos , I use hls only and create all my sequences from scratch .

I have no interest or knowledge of how to use a pre made sequences from lor -vixen, lsp or any other sequencer other than hls .

I would however like to see the shared part of hls grow especially for creating custom sequences .

Shared effects has my interest totally !

Shared sequences on the other hand would be a persons private work and would not be expected unless volunteered .

What will make your show unique is the fact that you created the entire show that includes the sequence >>> yourself.

Cheers
Richard

CDN_Diesel
01-04-2013, 01:41 AM
That is true. I watched all the videos, read the manual, and then if I could not find the answer I then asked. I had a blast trying different things in the sequencer to see what did what in it. Heck, I even learned today that with 11H, I can combine channels to show on one vector in the preview. That was cool and will really come in handy when I get into the pixels. I also found out how to "darken or lighten" the preview image. :thup:

I guess, I am just to "quick to help out" so to speak. I know we are here to help each other out, but you are correct in the fact that the fun for me, is figuring it out.

I know that the joy does come in sequencing your own show. That holds true for me also, but there will be DIYC-ers (<--- new word :) lol ) that have done their own sequence in the other software and would like to "port" it over to HLS. I have done 2 LOR conversions to get a couple of songs up for this year. I can definitely do a quick how to on that. I know with the conversions, I still have to change elements, and add some things for my liking. Again, that was ONLY for this year. Next years show will be ALL MINE :) . I am really looking forward to it. (not to mention, I have to figure out how to add music now to my "graveyard" scene for Halloween. Just music and lights, or signing pumpkins, etc... decisions, decisions... lol)

Your question, are too many how to videos a bad thing.... for me, the answer is yes. Maybe what needs to be done is to figure out what is "taught" or shown on the current videos and listed with each. Just a thought. With all the videos out, I had a bit of a time figuring out what video I saw certain things in that I wanted to go see how to do again. I think mainly because the title is only so big. Maybe a more defined description.

Anyhow, with the new wiki and update to the manual, it should make it much easier for newbies to get up and running.

angus40
01-04-2013, 01:52 AM
This is my favorite display video and what has inspired me to do this hobby from day 1 .

https://vimeo.com/34168288

Very unique and excellent example of what users can expect to achieve when they apply their efforts .

cheers
Richard

Posted in wrong forum , please move to general thread

CDN_Diesel
01-04-2013, 02:00 AM
WOW, love the HUGE wreath! Mine was the same song but by Holdman https://vimeo.com/440868 a couple of years ago. I looked and looked, but LOR and Planet Christmas were all I could find. Then a friend showed me this site, and the rest is history as they say.

cnbales
01-05-2013, 12:58 PM
Here are my sequences for 2012. Gangnam Style, Jingle Bell Rock Anthem, Wizards in Winter, Carol of the Bells, Amazing Grace Techno, Jingle Bells Techno, and Music Box Dancer. The last 4 were Vixen files another member converted from Holdman, and I converted to HLS and tweaked for my display.

CDN_Diesel
01-05-2013, 08:58 PM
nice. thanks.