Troubleshooting Guide The Renard SS24 - Revision history

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	~~[[Troubleshooting_Guide_%E2%80%93_The_Renard_SS24 \| Click here for the previous version done by oldcgr]].~~



	=='''Introduction'''==		=='''Introduction'''==
	:This page is intended to help identify/isolate some of the common problems individuals encounter when building/operating the Renard SS24 controller board.		:This page is intended to help identify/isolate some of the common problems individuals encounter when building/operating the Renard SS24 controller board.

Ravinglunatic: /* Most Common Problems */

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Most Common Problems

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	:These are the most common problems encountered by individuals who have built Renard SS boards since their debut to the DIYC community:		:These are the most common problems encountered by individuals who have built Renard SS boards since their debut to the DIYC community:


			::*'''Incorrect Jumper Settings'''. Many individuals fail to take notice of the correct jumper settings when they assemble their boards. Sometimes this is due to them not knowing what communication method they will be using once the board is complete. Incorrect placement of JP1 or JP2 could/will cause the board to fail to communicate with VIXEN. Make sure that you understand the correct placement of the jumpers according to the [[The Renard SS24 Controller Board#Configuring_the_jumpers_on_Renard_SS_boards \| Renard SS24 Controller wiki]].


	::*'''Missed solder pads or bad solder joints'''. Many individuals get in a rush when assembling their boards and will occasionally miss a solder pad or just do a poor job on a particular solder pad. This type of problem can usually be easily identified by closely inspecting all the solder pads on the board after assembly is complete. Missed solder pads may/will cause many different problems that will cause you to spend many hours troubleshooting only to find that it was as simple as a missed solder pad. So take your time and closely inspect your solder work when you are done with the assembly.		::*'''Missed solder pads or bad solder joints'''. Many individuals get in a rush when assembling their boards and will occasionally miss a solder pad or just do a poor job on a particular solder pad. This type of problem can usually be easily identified by closely inspecting all the solder pads on the board after assembly is complete. Missed solder pads may/will cause many different problems that will cause you to spend many hours troubleshooting only to find that it was as simple as a missed solder pad. So take your time and closely inspect your solder work when you are done with the assembly.
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	::*'''Incorrect Vixen Settings'''. It cannot be emphasized enough, the Renard boards will not work correctly if Vixen is not setup correctly. Verify that you have the Vixen plug-in settings correct as compared to the [[The Renard SS24 Controller Board#Computer Setup \| Renard SS24 Controller wiki]].		::*'''Incorrect Vixen Settings'''. It cannot be emphasized enough, the Renard boards will not work correctly if Vixen is not setup correctly. Verify that you have the Vixen plug-in settings correct as compared to the [[The Renard SS24 Controller Board#Computer Setup \| Renard SS24 Controller wiki]].





	=='''Troubleshooting the Renard SS24 Controller'''==		=='''Troubleshooting the Renard SS24 Controller'''==

Ravinglunatic at 23:25, 11 March 2012

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	<li>Verify that you have the Vixen plug-in settings correct as compared to the [[The Renard SS24 Controller Board#Computer Setup \| Renard SS24 Controller wiki]].		<li>Verify that you have the Vixen plug-in settings correct as compared to the [[The Renard SS24 Controller Board#Computer Setup \| Renard SS24 Controller wiki]].

	<li>For the following steps, the PICs (U6 thru U8) need to be programmed with the [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Regular~~ Firmware \| Renard Operational Firmware]].		<li>For the following steps, the PICs (U6 thru U8) need to be programmed with the [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Operational Firmware]].

	<li>Turn ON AC power		<li>Turn ON AC power
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	<li>Remove PIC chip U6		<li>Remove PIC chip U6

	<li>Install a PIC programmed with the [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Beta Diagnostic~~ Firmware \| ~~Beta~~ Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] into the U6 position.		<li>Install a PIC programmed with the [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Diagnostic Firmware]] into the U6 position.

	<li>Place a shunt (jumper) on JP3		<li>Place a shunt (jumper) on JP3
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	:*If incorrect , then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]].		:*If incorrect , then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]].

	<li>The [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Beta Diagnostic~~ Firmware \| ~~Beta~~ Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should perform the following channel test:		<li>The [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Diagnostic Firmware]] should perform the following channel test:
	:*All channels ON for approx. 2 seconds		:*All channels ON for approx. 2 seconds
	:*All channels OFF for approx. 2 seconds		:*All channels OFF for approx. 2 seconds
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	<li>If no LEDs/channels came on during the above routine:		<li>If no LEDs/channels came on during the above routine:
	:#[[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verify that the diagnostic LEDs are operational]]		:#[[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verify that the diagnostic LEDs are operational]]
	:#Reflash the PIC with the [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Beta Diagnostic~~ Firmware \| ~~Beta~~ Renard Diagnostic Firmware]]		:#Reflash the PIC with the [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Diagnostic Firmware]]
	:#If the problem continues, then edit the [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Beta Diagnostic~~ Firmware \| ~~Beta~~ Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] to change from using the external oscillator to using the internal oscillator. If you don't know how to do this, then download this version of the [[media:Ren-diag-beta-20090117 (intosc).asm \| Beta Renard Diagnostics Firmware]].		:#If the problem continues, then edit the [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Diagnostic Firmware]] to change from using the external oscillator to using the internal oscillator. If you don't know how to do this, then download this version of the [[media:Ren-diag-beta-20090117 (intosc).asm \| Beta Renard Diagnostics Firmware]].
	:::*If the LEDs/channels are now working, then there is a problem with the oscillator U3. Check the solder pads and/or replace U3.		:::*If the LEDs/channels are now working, then there is a problem with the oscillator U3. Check the solder pads and/or replace U3.
	:::*If no LEDs/channels came on, then either the PIC is bad or you have no DC power to the PIC.		:::*If no LEDs/channels came on, then either the PIC is bad or you have no DC power to the PIC.
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	<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]		<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]

	<li>The [[~~Renard Firmware~~#~~Beta Diagnostic~~ Firmware \| Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5).		<li>The [[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5).

	<li>If the ZC LED (channel 5) is not blinking:		<li>If the ZC LED (channel 5) is not blinking:
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	:[[Renard Main Page]]		:[[Renard Main Page]]

			:[[The_Renard_SS24_Controller_Board#Firmware \| Renard SS Firmware]]

	:[[Renard Firmware]]		:[[Renard Firmware]]

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			=='''Related Links'''==
			:[[The Renard SS24 Controller Board]]

			:[[Beginners Setup Guide The Renard SS24]]

			:[[Assembly Instructions The Renard SS24]]

			:[http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?6664-The-Renard-SS-24-is-now-available!-(first-post-is-current-2-19-2011) Board Availability Information]

			:[[Renard Main Page]]

			:[[Renard Firmware]]

			:[[Part Substitutions]]

			:[[Vixen\|VIXEN]]

			:[[Glossary \| Glossary of DIYC Terms]]

			:[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_symbol Electronic Symbols]

Ravinglunatic: /* Troubleshooting Steps */

2011-05-12T11:25:41Z

Troubleshooting Steps

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	<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]		<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]

	<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5)~~. All other channels/LEDs should be OFF~~.		<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5).

	<li>If the ZC LED (channel 5) is not blinking:		<li>If the ZC LED (channel 5) is not blinking:

Ravinglunatic: /* Troubleshooting Steps */

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Troubleshooting Steps

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	[[Category:Renard SS24]]		[[Category:Renard SS24]]
			[[Category:DIYC Index]]

Wayne J: /* Verifying Diagnostic LEDs */ fix link

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	<li>If all of the LEDs in steps 6 thru 10 did not light:		<li>If all of the LEDs in steps 6 thru 10 did not light:
	:a. Check for 5.0 VDC at [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS U6 5VDC Check (top).jpg \| U6 IC socket pin 1]]		:a. Check for 5.0 VDC at [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS U6 5VDC Check (top).jpg \| U6 IC socket pin 1]]
	::*If incorrect, check the solder pads and/or go back to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]		::*If incorrect, check the solder pads and/or go back to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]
	:b. Remove shunt from JP3		:b. Remove shunt from JP3
	:c. Check for 5.0 VDC at [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS JP3 Check.jpg \| left side of JP3]]		:c. Check for 5.0 VDC at [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS JP3 Check.jpg \| left side of JP3]]

Wayne J: /* Troubleshooting Steps */ fix link

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	<li>If no LEDs/channels came on during the above routine:		<li>If no LEDs/channels came on during the above routine:
	:#[[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verify that the diagnostic LEDs are operational]]		:#[[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verify that the diagnostic LEDs are operational]]
	:#Reflash the PIC with the [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]]		:#Reflash the PIC with the [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]]
	:#If the problem continues, then edit the [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] to change from using the external oscillator to using the internal oscillator. If you don't know how to do this, then download this version of the [[media:Ren-diag-beta-20090117 (intosc).asm \| Beta Renard Diagnostics Firmware]].		:#If the problem continues, then edit the [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] to change from using the external oscillator to using the internal oscillator. If you don't know how to do this, then download this version of the [[media:Ren-diag-beta-20090117 (intosc).asm \| Beta Renard Diagnostics Firmware]].

Macrosill: /* Verifying Diagnostic LEDs */

2009-12-26T21:05:29Z

Verifying Diagnostic LEDs

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	<li>Power LED should be lit and the DC voltage at the [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS24 Meas01.gif \|+5 Test Point]] should be 5.0 (+/- .5) VDC.		<li>Power LED should be lit and the DC voltage at the [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS24 Meas01.gif \|+5 Test Point]] should be 5.0 (+/- .5) VDC.
	:*If incorrect , then go to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]		:*If incorrect , then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]

	<li>Momentarily connect a jumper (small piece of wire) between U6 [[media: Wiki - IC socket 13-14.jpg \| IC socket pin 13 and pin 14]]		<li>Momentarily connect a jumper (small piece of wire) between U6 [[media: Wiki - IC socket 13-14.jpg \| IC socket pin 13 and pin 14]]

Macrosill: /* Troubleshooting Steps */

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Troubleshooting Steps

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	<li>PWR LED should be lit		<li>PWR LED should be lit
	:*If incorrect , then go to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]].		:*If incorrect , then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]].

	<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should perform the following channel test:		<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Beta Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should perform the following channel test:
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	:*You can choose to live with this condition but you will have to make sure that JP3 is not installed while running the operational firmware.		:*You can choose to live with this condition but you will have to make sure that JP3 is not installed while running the operational firmware.

	<li>If any (but not all) LEDs did not come during the step 11 routine, then go to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verifying Diagnostic LEDs]]		<li>If any (but not all) LEDs did not come during the step 11 routine, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Verifying_Diagnostic_LEDs \| Verifying Diagnostic LEDs]]

	<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]		<li>If you used lights hooked up the channels and they did not respond correctly, then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_SSR_Circuitry_Problems \| Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems]]

	<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5). All other channels/LEDs should be OFF.		<li>The [[Renard Firmware#Beta Diagnostic Firmware \| Renard Diagnostic Firmware]] should now be blinking the HB LED (channel 2) and ZC LED (channel 5). All other channels/LEDs should be OFF.

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	<li>Power LED should be lit and the DC voltage at the [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS24 Meas01.gif \|+5 Test Point]] should be 5.0 (+/- .5) VDC.		<li>Power LED should be lit and the DC voltage at the [[media:Wiki - TSG Renard SS24 Meas01.gif \|+5 Test Point]] should be 5.0 (+/- .5) VDC.
	:*If incorrect , then go to [[~~Troubleshooting_Guide_-_The_Renard_SS24~~#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]		:*If incorrect , then go to [[Troubleshooting_Guide_The_Renard_SS24#Troubleshooting_Power_Problems \| Troubleshooting Power Problems]]

	<li>Momentarily connect a jumper (small piece of wire) between U6 [[media: Wiki - IC socket 13-14.jpg \| IC socket pin 13 and pin 14]]		<li>Momentarily connect a jumper (small piece of wire) between U6 [[media: Wiki - IC socket 13-14.jpg \| IC socket pin 13 and pin 14]]