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toozie21
07-13-2018, 09:31 AM
One of my new props this year is going to be a candy cane diapenser. It is just about ready to be completed and all that will be left is for my wife to help me figure out how to spruce it up. Not one of my more elegant looking designs, but I was able to use a lot of leftover parts and it is super light.

I am still not happy with the exit chute, but that is pretty easy to swap out when I get something I like.

Here is a quick video when I got the guts of it put together:
https://youtu.be/kRDvzhE26QI

And here it is just before I buttoned things up 2 days ago:
https://youtu.be/kZpbeq1rJx0

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ukewarrior
07-13-2018, 11:25 AM
Nice...Simple...Inexpensive...Great Work. I look forward to your wife's efforts at decoration!

Wayne J
07-13-2018, 02:55 PM
Cool!

craiz
07-13-2018, 08:23 PM
That is really cool. I like how it's clear on the side so kids can watch their candy cane come out. Capacity could be an issue depending on how many people you have wanting candy canes.

Dkelly0802
07-14-2018, 12:06 AM
That’s a cool idea

Protege94
07-14-2018, 01:12 AM
That is AWESOME. My only concern would be capacity of candy canes. Either way that is really awesome and a great addition to any display.

toozie21
07-15-2018, 09:14 PM
That is AWESOME. My only concern would be capacity of candy canes. Either way that is really awesome and a great addition to any display.Yeah, I had the same question. We are fairly new to this neighborhood, so I don't //think// we will have a ton of traffic yet. But, my wife's opinion was that when we are out, we are out.

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Protege94
07-16-2018, 12:58 PM
Yeah, I had the same question. We are fairly new to this neighborhood, so I don't //think// we will have a ton of traffic yet. But, my wife's opinion was that when we are out, we are out.

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The second year I had my display up I went through over 250 candy canes. I would check it throughout the night if I noticed a lot of traffic. But when we were out for whatever reason I just put as many in the bucket as I could and then checked it when I got home.

garymullen
01-02-2020, 12:02 PM
Just saw this and I love it! My wife does too, which means I'll be building something similar for next year :)

toozie21
01-02-2020, 01:25 PM
Just saw this and I love it! My wife does too, which means I'll be building something similar for next year :)Had another successful year with this. Gave out about 350 candy canes this year. Had some donations from neighbors who kids liked to regularly partake. Mine is only on when the lights are on, otherwise the neighborhood kids would pick me dey when they are coming home from school and out playing (I see them try all the time). Picked up 25 boxes at 50 cents a box from Walmart the other day, so I have a good start for next year.

You can see the completed form from last year about 35 seconds in
https://youtu.be/AounfCC5_DY

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wilmar
01-02-2020, 01:44 PM
Saw this last year love it


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ukewarrior
01-02-2020, 08:28 PM
i love all your vignettes.
Very creative and nicely executed.

Had another successful year with this. Gave out about 350 candy canes this year. Had some donations from neighbors who kids liked to regularly partake. Mine is only on when the lights are on, otherwise the neighborhood kids would pick me dey when they are coming home from school and out playing (I see them try all the time). Picked up 25 boxes at 50 cents a box from Walmart the other day, so I have a good start for next year.

You can see the completed form from last year about 35 seconds in
https://youtu.be/AounfCC5_DY

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garymullen
01-05-2020, 10:23 AM
Had another successful year with this. Gave out about 350 candy canes this year. Had some donations from neighbors who kids liked to regularly partake. Mine is only on when the lights are on, otherwise the neighborhood kids would pick me dey when they are coming home from school and out playing (I see them try all the time). Picked up 25 boxes at 50 cents a box from Walmart the other day, so I have a good start for next year.

You can see the completed form from last year about 35 seconds in
https://youtu.be/AounfCC5_DY

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Only having it on during the show is a good idea!

My wife bought a whole bunch of candy canes yesterday, so I guess I'd better figure out how to build it now.

Where did you get the motor and spiral from? Is this basically the type of motor I would need? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1129108956.html

toozie21
01-05-2020, 12:23 PM
Only having it on during the show is a good idea!

My wife bought a whole bunch of candy canes yesterday, so I guess I'd better figure out how to build it now.

Where did you get the motor and spiral from? Is this basically the type of motor I would need? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1129108956.html

That looks exactly like the motor I am using. The spirals were a conundrum to me for a while. I wanted to make them myself, but ended up just buying ones that were designed for vending machines. If you look at the second pic in your link, the clear circle is what the rings attach to. If you find the brand of rings that go with that motor, it will snap right on. I ended up buying my rings on eBay from someone selling vending parts. I bought the wrong ones at first, so I have some LARGE loops designed more for bags of chips, and then the tighter ~3in diameter ones I am using that would be more candy bar size. It holds 15 candy canes at once.

After some issues, I switched to a lighted doorbell to be the pushbutton. I also use a 555 timer so that the brief button push lasts closer to 2 seconds to give the motor time to work it's magic (I will try to find a precious post to explain what I mean).

One thing I need to fix is, I cannot tell how many canes are left from my house without going down to check on it. That is frustrating beyond belief and on my list to fix this year. Sometimes I would go down and only 1 would be gone, other times it was empty. Think it through when you design yours [emoji16].

Keep us updated on your progress!

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toozie21
01-05-2020, 12:27 PM
i love all your vignettes.
Very creative and nicely executed.Thank you very much!!!!

I never had a good way to explain my little boxes, but vignettes sums it up perfectly. I am planning on making a platform this year to hold the two vignettes and the candy cane machine. There is a small bank next to my sidewalk and leveling the displays every year is a pain in the butt. I figure leveling one platform and attaching them to it will be a lifesaver. I get terrible wind gusts where I live, so everything has to be extremely held into the ground, so I think a large platform will help with that as well.

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 03:53 PM
That looks exactly like the motor I am using. The spirals were a conundrum to me for a while. I wanted to make them myself, but ended up just buying ones that were designed for vending machines. If you look at the second pic in your link, the clear circle is what the rings attach to. If you find the brand of rings that go with that motor, it will snap right on. I ended up buying my rings on eBay from someone selling vending parts. I bought the wrong ones at first, so I have some LARGE loops designed more for bags of chips, and then the tighter ~3in diameter ones I am using that would be more candy bar size. It holds 15 candy canes at once.

After some issues, I switched to a lighted doorbell to be the pushbutton. I also use a 555 timer so that the brief button push lasts closer to 2 seconds to give the motor time to work it's magic (I will try to find a precious post to explain what I mean).

One thing I need to fix is, I cannot tell how many canes are left from my house without going down to check on it. That is frustrating beyond belief and on my list to fix this year. Sometimes I would go down and only 1 would be gone, other times it was empty. Think it through when you design yours [emoji16].

Keep us updated on your progress!

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What if you rigged a dash cam inside the dispenser 12volt and depending on the distance access from cell phone as I can access my dash cam from my cell phone from inside my house.


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toozie21
01-05-2020, 03:55 PM
What if you rigged a dash cam inside the dispenser 12volt and depending on the distance access from cell phone as I can access my dash cam from my cell phone from inside my house.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThat is EXACTLY what I've been investigating the last week. The motor runs on 12V, so I have the power. Now I just can't decide on what camera to use since it is so close to the canes.....

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 03:59 PM
That is EXACTLY what I've been investigating the last week. The motor runs on 12V, so I have the power. Now I just can't decide on what camera to use since it is so close to the canes.....

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The one I have would work itís very wide angle but I can see windshield wipers about 3 inches away . And was only around 60 dollars and is great had for 2 years now . Got on Amazon has a really long cord like 15í for power .


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toozie21
01-05-2020, 05:02 PM
The one I have would work itís very wide angle but I can see windshield wipers about 3 inches away . And was only around 60 dollars and is great had for 2 years now . Got on Amazon has a really long cord like 15í for power .


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think that is a great idea, but $60 is a bit steep for me for this task. I was going to try to do it closer to $25 just in case I have issues or something happens to it.

The good think about your dash cam idea is that it is designed to be in the cold temps at night, where as an ESP32 cam or a regular wifi webcam wouldn't be....

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 05:26 PM
I think that is a great idea, but $60 is a bit steep for me for this task. I was going to try to do it closer to $25 just in case I have issues or something happens to it.

The good think about your dash cam idea is that it is designed to be in the cold temps at night, where as an ESP32 cam or a regular wifi webcam wouldn't be....

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I agree ... another option is 10 dollar web cam and 18 dollar 50í usb extension. Or smaller depending on what you need


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wilmar
01-05-2020, 05:28 PM
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wilmar
01-05-2020, 05:29 PM
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toozie21
01-05-2020, 05:51 PM
I like the price on that, but I would need a pretty long run of USB, maybe 50+ft?

I could pair it with a Pi Zero W though.

I was also investigating small wifi "action" cameras. But the cheap ones seem really "cheap". I am sure there is a simple solution I am overthinking here....

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 05:59 PM
I run these ,ones 50í and another 75í no issues so far knock on wood 2 years in my display .



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wilmar
01-05-2020, 05:59 PM
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Barnabybear
01-05-2020, 06:25 PM
Hi, just thinking - an ESP8266 putting up a web page that you could check, sending an email or a push notification telling you what stock is left or how many times the button had been pressed. An easy project to do next year if it would help.

toozie21
01-05-2020, 08:20 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/a1a647e660cb2c52965b9b5f84b321c2.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis is a nice discourse guys, thanks!

That is good to know about the USB, it might be worth trying for such a little cost (I guess I don't know how specialized those USB cables are though). I do have a Falcon Player right outside my house for my matrix. I could potentially run the USB straight to that, or plug it into something else all together.....

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:24 PM
This is a nice discourse guys, thanks!

That is good to know about the USB, it might be worth trying for such a little cost (I guess I don't know how specialized those USB cables are though). I do have a Falcon Player right outside my house for my matrix. I could potentially run the USB straight to that, or plug it into something else all together.....

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Would be cool if you could utilize something like this pic but make a larger pixel screen that you can see from house think it uses a proximitysensor https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/f6396ceded92fc5cb90a22d953e745e2.jpg


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toozie21
01-05-2020, 08:25 PM
Hi, just thinking - an ESP8266 putting up a web page that you could check, sending an email or a push notification telling you what stock is left or how many times the button had been pressed. An easy project to do next year if it would help.That is interesting. Not sure how it would know how many canes are left. One thing that I would need to do is KISS, because my kids help me fill it, and I can't depend on them to reset some sort of counter each time (they are 7 and 5).

Buuuut, getting notified every x button pushes would be pretty sweet. What all do you think would have to go into getting something like this to work. I play with PICs, Arduino, Pi's, ARMs, etc., But I've done absolutely nothing with the ESP stuff (including reading up on it).

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:28 PM
That is interesting. Not sure how it would know how many canes are left. One thing that I would need to do is KISS, because my kids help me fill it, and I can't depend on them to reset some sort of counter each time (they are 7 and 5).

Buuuut, getting notified every x button pushes would be pretty sweet. What all do you think would have to go into getting something like this to work. I play with PICs, Arduino, Pi's, ARMs, etc., But I've done absolutely nothing with the ESP stuff (including reading up on it).

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When someone hand reaches for button it registers


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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:29 PM
That is interesting. Not sure how it would know how many canes are left. One thing that I would need to do is KISS, because my kids help me fill it, and I can't depend on them to reset some sort of counter each time (they are 7 and 5).

Buuuut, getting notified every x button pushes would be pretty sweet. What all do you think would have to go into getting something like this to work. I play with PICs, Arduino, Pi's, ARMs, etc., But I've done absolutely nothing with the ESP stuff (including reading up on it).

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9vlfrP9duE


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toozie21
01-05-2020, 08:30 PM
Would be cool if you could utilize something like this pic but make a larger pixel screen that you can see from house think it uses a proximitysensor https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/f6396ceded92fc5cb90a22d953e745e2.jpg


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI actually had investigated something like this 2 years ago. I simulated a circuit using Reed switches and a magnet being dragged behind that would light a C7 incandescent bulb, off, slowly, faster, solid on, depending on how many canes were left.

I tried it out on the bench and it worked, but I didn't really want to drag a magnet behind the last cane, so I abandoned it. The circuit would be all discretes and have no micros or anything else digital.

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:31 PM
I actually had investigated something like this 2 years ago. I simulated a circuit using Reed switches and a magnet being dragged behind that would light a C7 incandescent bulb, off, slowly, faster, solid on, depending on how many canes were left.

I tried it out on the bench and it worked, but I didn't really want to drag a magnet behind the last cane, so I abandoned it. The circuit would be all discretes and have no micros or anything else digital.

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Yea I looked at one of those with a magnet aswell on Amazon itís a kit


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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:34 PM
Just go simple and put an switch 12volt to a c7 or C9 with a sign saying ďif empty or broke flip the elf switch on pleaseĒ


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toozie21
01-05-2020, 08:37 PM
When someone hand reaches for button it registers


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNot that simple if the canes get refilled part way through, we would then have to reset a counter so it knew how many were back in there. Plus it would need to remember after power down.

As much as I don't want to make things too complicated, the wife kind of wants a camera as she thinks it would be cool to see what is going on.

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toozie21
01-05-2020, 08:38 PM
Yea I looked at one of those with a magnet aswell on Amazon itís a kit


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDidn't think to look for a lot, was doing it from scratch with stuff on hand.

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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:39 PM
Not that simple if the canes get refilled part way through, we would then have to reset a counter so it knew how many were back in there. Plus it would need to remember after power down.

As much as I don't want to make things too complicated, the wife kind of wants a camera as she thinks it would be cool to see what is going on.

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Camera is neat I think too


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wilmar
01-05-2020, 08:41 PM
We watch folks with our ring doorbell kids dancing to the music in the yard among other things we see https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200106/33ac179b78eb8e4f3f2e0bace2cdb149.jpg


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garymullen
01-06-2020, 02:29 PM
Maybe you could put a camera in the box AND replace your 555 timer with a ESP8266. Have it keep track of the number of presses and then send a notification for you to check the camera every 15 presses or something? Maybe have a webpage to reset the count, since it will likely get out of sync. I haven't done it, but the ESP's seem like they're easy to program from the Arduino IDE.

KISS is probably the best approach, but complexity can be more fun :)

algerdes
01-06-2020, 03:34 PM
Just curious... How many do you think you would "give out" on any given evening, or within a specific amount of time?

Barnabybear
01-06-2020, 05:19 PM
That is interesting. Not sure how it would know how many canes are left. One thing that I would need to do is KISS, because my kids help me fill it, and I can't depend on them to reset some sort of counter each time (they are 7 and 5).

Buuuut, getting notified every x button pushes would be pretty sweet. What all do you think would have to go into getting something like this to work. I play with PICs, Arduino, Pi's, ARMs, etc., But I've done absolutely nothing with the ESP stuff (including reading up on it).

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Hi, the links below will give you an idea of what is involved. It would be quite a simple task, the links show controlling LEDs but it was mainly the web page that I wanted to show you. Just thinking out loud Ė you could detect the motor powering up through an opto isolator and deduct one from the candy cane count stored in eeprom memory every time it does. A switch on the lid could reset the count to its maximum when opened. All you would need to do is log onto the web page to check the quantity, like most thing there are lots of ways to tackle this.
I prefer the Wemos D1 mini to the NodeMCU listed in the article, itís the same thing just from a different supplier.
https://shop.rasp.io/products/wemos-d1-mini-esp8266
You can find them for a lot less than the price on that link.

https://lastminuteengineers.com/esp8266-nodemcu-arduino-tutorial/
https://lastminuteengineers.com/creating-esp8266-web-server-arduino-ide/

With regard to a camera option Iíve used MotionEyeOS on a Raspberry Pi Zero W which works well.
https://randomnerdtutorials.com/install-motioneyeos-on-raspberry-pi-surveillance-camera-system/

Iím away for a few days now but if you need help with the ESP8266 PM me.

wilmar
01-06-2020, 05:35 PM
Hi, the links below will give you an idea of what is involved. It would be quite a simple task, the links show controlling LEDs but it was mainly the web page that I wanted to show you. Just thinking out loud Ė you could detect the motor powering up through an opto isolator and deduct one from the candy cane count stored in eeprom memory every time it does. A switch on the lid could reset the count to its maximum when opened. All you would need to do is log onto the web page to check the quantity, like most thing there are lots of ways to tackle this.
I prefer the Wemos D1 mini to the NodeMCU listed in the article, itís the same thing just from a different supplier.
https://shop.rasp.io/products/wemos-d1-mini-esp8266
You can find them for a lot less than the price on that link.

https://lastminuteengineers.com/esp8266-nodemcu-arduino-tutorial/
https://lastminuteengineers.com/creating-esp8266-web-server-arduino-ide/

With regard to a camera option Iíve used MotionEyeOS on a Raspberry Pi Zero W which works well.
https://randomnerdtutorials.com/install-motioneyeos-on-raspberry-pi-surveillance-camera-system/

Iím away for a few days now but if you need help with the ESP8266 PM me.

Great info thanks for sharing


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toozie21
02-02-2020, 01:03 PM
I'm baaaaaack.

I wanted to come back with a little info. I don't know if I'll go this route, but I is my current plan. I call it the CandyCam (yeah, a dumb play on the work Candy Cane).

It is a webcam out of an old laptop, if you dig around eBay, there are LOTS out there. If you are to go this route, get one with the cable still attached, they cost a few dollars more usually, but the connectors are REALLY small and make soldering and probing a pain. The first one I bought didn't have any cables or even probe points, so it was a pain in the butt and seemed to die a slow death from me soldering and re-soldering, and making poor assumptions on pinouts. Some of the webcams also have a mic, but I didn't pay attention to that.

The webcam I am currently using is out of a Samsung NP-R730 laptop. It is part number BA59-02690A (that is the camera all the way on the right in the black circle).
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From experience now, I can tell you that there is no rhyme or reason for the pinout or color coding. For me, the fact that this unit had test probes AND a cable, is what made me choose it.
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Looking at the above image, you can see my probing the test points a bunch. The easiest thing for me to do was find the ground point. Set up your multi-meter for continuity mode, pick a probe point (or a wire on your cable if you don't have a probe point), and drag your other probe across different places on the board. The ground is going to show up all over the place: the crystal's case, as a ground point for the ICs, some of the caps, grounded mount points if your board has them (mine does not). Once you figure out ground, mark it down. Next, you want to find your 5V VCC point, this is a little trickier. You would think that you could do the same thing for VCC and the ICs, but a lot of the boards have an LDO or voltage regulator that drops the voltage, so that isn't always simple. Try to find an IC up front and probe it out. When that is done, all that should leave is the two data pins for the USB. The data pins were pretty simple since I had a cable, that's because the wires are usually a twisted pair. Another way to figure it out is to probe that conformal coated part just to the right of the "94V-0" silkscreen. I think that is a SMD TVS Diode for ESD protection (both I played with had them). For this particular board, VCC was on the black wire at the top (yeah makes perfect sense.....), Ground is orange, and the two data lines were brown and red. I didn't know which was D+/D-, so you have a 50% chance of getting it right on the first try. If you don't make a connection when you connect it to a PC, swap those two. Below you can see the connection from the PCB's cable to the cable of my micro USB cable (I'll explain why micro USB in a minute).

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The simplest thing at this point is to plug it into you PC. If you are lucky your PC will recognize a webcam. If you are kind of luck, it will recognize a USB device, but you will need a driver for it. If you are really unlucky, you will have backwards data lines (which you will need to swap), or you did something wrong. I find Linux recognizes webcams automagically way more often than Windows. I didn't want to risk screwing up my USB port on my laptop (if I REALLY screwed something up, so I plugged it a USB Zero W I had lying around (hence the micro USB plug need mentioned above). Success, it saw it immediately!

After doing some researching an weighing some options, I decided to blow away my Pi's SD card and install the MotionEye OS (https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye) on it. This is a pretty sweet OS designed to run on all sorts of systems (make sure you grab the right release build for the hardware you are putting it on), that is a GUI front-end for the Motion (https://motion-project.github.io/)webcam project (a lot of this stuff is popular with the DIY security system crowd). It allows for motion detection, timelapse videos, live views, guest live views, etc. Very neat. I've had it running in my workshop for about a week now and it seems pretty seamless. I don't know how long I'll keep it up, and I don't have it pointed on me, but I do work from home, so the lights are on during work hours usually. I'll keep it up for a week and then delete this part from the post.

Hope this is helpful. Like I said, I am not sure I will go this route, but I thought it was pretty neat. The streaming is pretty clear (good enough for a ~7 year old webcam), responsive, and the admin login has TONS of settings and better quality that the user mode. I am not sure how well this will work in the cold of winter (I suppose I should put this outside since it is still winter.....), but it was pretty chearp. I think I am going to slide it into one of those M&M candy cane looking containers and putting it into the corner of my dispenser (so it will out of the elements, have power present, and I can hide the Pi in the sidewall where I keep the rest of the electronics for the prop anyway.
https://d2lnr5mha7bycj.cloudfront.net/product-image/file/large_ea2dff1f-fc8b-4a85-8042-7b8c206b2c88.png

The live view is http://toozie21.no-ip.org/.

wilmar
02-02-2020, 01:13 PM
I'm baaaaaack.

I wanted to come back with a little info. I don't know if I'll go this route, but I is my current plan. I call it the CandyCam (yeah, a dumb play on the work Candy Cane).

It is a webcam out of an old laptop, if you dig around eBay, there are LOTS out there. If you are to go this route, get one with the cable still attached, they cost a few dollars more usually, but the connectors are REALLY small and make soldering and probing a pain. The first one I bought didn't have any cables or even probe points, so it was a pain in the butt and seemed to die a slow death from me soldering and re-soldering, and making poor assumptions on pinouts. Some of the webcams also have a mic, but I didn't pay attention to that.

The webcam I am currently using is out of a Samsung NP-R730 laptop. It is part number BA59-02690A (that is the camera all the way on the right in the black circle).
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From experience now, I can tell you that there is no rhyme or reason for the pinout or color coding. For me, the fact that this unit had test probes AND a cable, is what made me choose it.
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Looking at the above image, you can see my probing the test points a bunch. The easiest thing for me to do was find the ground point. Set up your multi-meter for continuity mode, pick a probe point (or a wire on your cable if you don't have a probe point), and drag your other probe across different places on the board. The ground is going to show up all over the place: the crystal's case, as a ground point for the ICs, some of the caps, grounded mount points if your board has them (mine does not). Once you figure out ground, mark it down. Next, you want to find your 5V VCC point, this is a little trickier. You would think that you could do the same thing for VCC and the ICs, but a lot of the boards have an LDO or voltage regulator that drops the voltage, so that isn't always simple. Try to find an IC up front and probe it out. When that is done, all that should leave is the two data pins for the USB. The data pins were pretty simple since I had a cable, that's because the wires are usually a twisted pair. Another way to figure it out is to probe that conformal coated part just to the right of the "94V-0" silkscreen. I think that is a SMD TVS Diode for ESD protection (both I played with had them). For this particular board, VCC was on the black wire at the top (yeah makes perfect sense.....), Ground is orange, and the two data lines were brown and red. I didn't know which was D+/D-, so you have a 50% chance of getting it right on the first try. If you don't make a connection when you connect it to a PC, swap those two. Below you can see the connection from the PCB's cable to the cable of my micro USB cable (I'll explain why micro USB in a minute).

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The simplest thing at this point is to plug it into you PC. If you are lucky your PC will recognize a webcam. If you are kind of luck, it will recognize a USB device, but you will need a driver for it. If you are really unlucky, you will have backwards data lines (which you will need to swap), or you did something wrong. I find Linux recognizes webcams automagically way more often than Windows. I didn't want to risk screwing up my USB port on my laptop (if I REALLY screwed something up, so I plugged it a USB Zero W I had lying around (hence the micro USB plug need mentioned above). Success, it saw it immediately!

After doing some researching an weighing some options, I decided to blow away my Pi's SD card and install the MotionEye OS (https://github.com/ccrisan/motioneye) on it. This is a pretty sweet OS designed to run on all sorts of systems (make sure you grab the right release build for the hardware you are putting it on), that is a GUI front-end for the Motion (https://motion-project.github.io/)webcam project (a lot of this stuff is popular with the DIY security system crowd). It allows for motion detection, timelapse videos, live views, guest live views, etc. Very neat. I've had it running in my workshop for about a week now and it seems pretty seamless. I don't know how long I'll keep it up, and I don't have it pointed on me, but I do work from home, so the lights are on during work hours usually. I'll keep it up for a week and then delete this part from the post.

Hope this is helpful. Like I said, I am not sure I will go this route, but I thought it was pretty neat. The streaming is pretty clear (good enough for a ~7 year old webcam), responsive, and the admin login has TONS of settings and better quality that the user mode. I am not sure how well this will work in the cold of winter (I suppose I should put this outside since it is still winter.....), but it was pretty chearp. I think I am going to slide it into one of those M&M candy cane looking containers and putting it into the corner of my dispenser (so it will out of the elements, have power present, and I can hide the Pi in the sidewall where I keep the rest of the electronics for the prop anyway.
https://d2lnr5mha7bycj.cloudfront.net/product-image/file/large_ea2dff1f-fc8b-4a85-8042-7b8c206b2c88.png

The live view is here (http://I'm baaaaaack. I wanted to come back with a little info. I don't know if I'll go this route, but I is my current plan. I call it the CandyCam. It is a webcam out of an old laptop, if you dig around eBay, there are LOTS out there. If you are to go this route, get one with the cable still attached, they cost a few dollars more usually, but the connectors are REALLY small and make soldering and probing a pain. The first one I bought didn't have any cables or even probe points, so it was a pain in the butt and seemed to die a slow death from me soldering and re-soldering, and making poor assumptions on pinouts. Some of the webcams also have a mic, but I didn't pay attention to that. The webcam I am currently using is out of a Samsung NP-R730 laptop. It is part number BA59-02690A (that is the camera all the way on the right in the black circle). From experience now, I can tell you that there is no rhyme or reason for the pinout or color coding. For me, the fact that this unit had test probes AND a cable, is what made me choose it. Looking at the above image, you can see my probing the test points a bunch. The easiest thing for me to do was find the ground point. Set up your multi-meter for continuity mode, pick a probe point (or a wire on your cable if you don't have a probe point), and drag your other probe across different places on the board. The ground is going to show up all over the place: the crystal's case, as a ground point for the ICs, some of the caps, grounded mount points if your board has them (mine does not). Once you figure out ground, mark it down. Next, you want to find your 5V VCC point, this is a little trickier. You would think that you could do the same thing for VCC and the ICs, but a lot of the boards have an LDO or voltage regulator that drops the voltage, so that isn't always simple. Try to find an IC up front and probe it out. When that is done, all that should leave is the two data pins for the USB. The data pins were pretty simple since I had a cable, that's because the wires are usually a twisted pair. Another way to figure it out is to probe that conformal coated part just to the right of the "94V-0" silkscreen. I think that is a SMD TVS Diode for ESD protection (both I played with had them). For this particular board, VCC was on the black wire at the top (yeah makes perfect sense.....), Ground is orange, and the two data lines were brown and red. I didn't know which was D+/D-, so you have a 50% chance of getting it right on the first try. If you don't make a connection when you connect it to a PC, swap those two. Below you can see the connection from the PCB's cable to the cable of my micro USB cable (I'll explain why micro USB in a minute). The simplest thing at this point is to plug it into you PC. If you are lucky your PC will recognize a webcam. If you are kind of luck, it will recognize a USB device, but you will need a driver for it. If you are really unlucky, you will have backwards data lines (which you will need to swap), or you did something wrong. I find Linux recognizes webcams automagically way more often than Windows. I didn't want to risk screwing up my USB port on my laptop (if I REALLY screwed something up, so I plugged it a USB Zero W I had lying around (hence the micro USB plug need mentioned above). Success, it saw it immediately! After doing some researching an weighing some options, I decided to blow away my Pi's SD card and install the MotionEye OS on it. This is a pretty sweet OS designed to run on all sorts of systems (make sure you grab the right release build for the hardware you are putting it on), that is a GUI front-end for the Motion webcam project (a lot of this stuff is popular with the DIY security system crowd). It allows for motion detection, timelapse videos, live views, guest live views, etc. Very neat. I've had it running in my workshop for about a week now and it seems pretty seamless. I don't know how long I'll keep it up, and I don't have it pointed on me, but I do work from home, so the lights are on during work hours usually. I'll keep it up for a week and then delete this part from the post. Hope this is helpful. Like I said, I am not sure I will go this route, but I thought it was pretty neat. The streaming is pretty clear (good enough for a ~7 year old webcam), responsive, and the admin login has TONS of settings and better quality that the user mode. I am not sure how well this will work in the cold of winter (I suppose I should put this outside since it is still winter.....), but it was pretty chearp. I think I am going to slide it into one of those M&M candy cane looking containers and putting it into the corner of my dispenser (so it will out of the elements, have power present, and I can hide the Pi in the sidewall where I keep the rest of the electronics for the prop anyway. Hershey's Hershey-ets Holiday Candy Filled Cane).

Dang live view is an an error



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wilmar
02-02-2020, 01:33 PM
I was looking at one of these the other day https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200202/c261dddf3d066f850b3c7fb1177f05bc.jpg


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toozie21
02-02-2020, 01:53 PM
Does this webview work?
http://toozie21.no-ip.org

And are my pics not showing up?

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wilmar
02-02-2020, 01:57 PM
Does this webview work?
http://toozie21.no-ip.org

And are my pics not showing up?

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I saw the skull and date /time and no pics didnít show for me either


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toozie21
02-02-2020, 02:04 PM
Yep, I turned the light on down there. Going to be pretty Boeing most of the time [emoji1787]

Since I am not a member, I need to figure out how to upload some. Google photos doesn't show them as .jpg, so there is no way to embed them, and Id rather have them show up than just be a link. Let me look into it.

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wilmar
02-02-2020, 02:10 PM
Looks good ,hope it works well for you


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toozie21
02-03-2020, 04:08 PM
OK, I attempted to fix the link and pictures back a couple of posts in my explanation. Hopefully it is view able now....

wilmar
02-11-2020, 10:28 AM
So did you get it all working and done ?
Reason I ask is I found another option that I got working today .


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toozie21
02-11-2020, 01:36 PM
So did you get it all working and done ?
Reason I ask is I found another option that I got working today .


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYeah, I think so. I haven't installed into the actual display yet, but everything else seems to be golden.

What did you come up with?

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wilmar
02-11-2020, 02:59 PM
Yeah, I think so. I haven't installed into the actual display yet, but everything else seems to be golden.

What did you come up with?

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I was installing octopi on a raspberry pi zero wireless so I could watch and control my prints remotely when I thought hey this would work for the candy cane dispenser setup toozie was building.
Pi zero w was 10 bucks
I found an old usb webcam about 4 years old
And as long as Iím on my home network I can access the webcam at anytime using octopi software. You could do same just ignore the 3-d printer controls https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200211/04fb0855673e13439c616cef388f00c2.jpg


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wilmar
02-11-2020, 03:03 PM
Yeah, I think so. I haven't installed into the actual display yet, but everything else seems to be golden.

What did you come up with?

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Iíve been streaming for about 7 hours now and have had no issues at all



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Braveit1
02-11-2020, 05:36 PM
For about $25 (or $20 on an Amazon lighting deal) you can get a Waze or Yi cam complete with an app that lets you remote view. The cameras come with SD storage slots for optional saving view and the option of a paid cloud storage if you want that. The Waze has a person detection algorithm if you want notifications on people and not motion. Only needs a 110v outlet or USB for power and access to your wifi for notifications. Plus they are compatible with Alexa and INOT
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076H3SRXG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_HlWqEbNFW00NY

wilmar
02-11-2020, 07:07 PM
For about $25 (or $20 on an Amazon lighting deal) you can get a Waze or Yi cam complete with an app that lets you remote view. The cameras come with SD storage slots for optional saving view and the option of a paid cloud storage if you want that. The Waze has a person detection algorithm if you want notifications on people and not motion. Only needs a 110v outlet or USB for power and access to your wifi for notifications. Plus they are compatible with Alexa and INOT
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076H3SRXG/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_HlWqEbNFW00NY

I have a YI cam in my truck love it


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toozie21
02-11-2020, 08:21 PM
I did look at those too, but opted against them. The size was one issue, and being tied to their setup was another. I can control sensitivity of motion, recording parameters, cool down parameters, timelapses, etc.

Those are way simpler than my approach and about the same cost though.

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