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    Hi:
    Jonathon, I realize this is kind of late, but I have been very busy with the lights, etc. This being my first year, I am drowning in the afterglow!

    If you could change the color of the vertical grid lines "on the beat", that would be very handy.

    In other words, the beat indicator would show up as a vertical RED (or other color) line while the rest of the grid lines remain as they are. This would ensure that the beat lines would remain visible throughout the sequencing grid even with a large number of channels (I don't have very many yet). I don't know what kind of programming this would take and it may not be practical, but if it could be done, it would be most helpful.

    Just a suggestion. Thanks for a neat and useful program.

    Merry Christmas Lights

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    Idun,

    I would love to be able to do this, but it is not possible the way Vixen's interface is right now. Vixen provides me the sequence, and I just add event data to it. Changing the grid line color would require modifying the StandardSequence's Draw() function, which I cannot do, as it is part of Vixen.

    This is definitely something I've had in mind though, should I ever be able to work with development of Vixen itself.
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    Hi:
    I don't know much about the programming, but I do realize what you are saying about the internals of Vixen.

    Maybe it could be done as an overlay on the grid line. If you can fill in the cell with the beat marker, maybe you could also overlay that line and not have to get into Vixen itself.

    Thanks for your reply and your efforts on the add-in. It works great.

    Merry Christmas Lights

    Idun

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathonReinhart View Post
    I also added an option to insert the beats directly into the sequence on whatever channel you wish. It inserts them right at the beginning, so you will need to insert/remove to get the beats to line up to the music, however.
    Nice Add-In!

    Now being occasionally lazy, I'd wish for a built in click track the user taps to prior to tapping to the actual song, the add-in calculates the users response delay and then adjusts the beat insertion for this user's pokey finger...

    Thanks for the Add-in, very useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyG View Post
    Now being occasionally lazy, I'd wish for a built in click track the user taps to prior to tapping to the actual song, the add-in calculates the users response delay and then adjusts the beat insertion for this user's pokey finger...
    Actually, that would be unnecessary. As your response delay is constant, the intervals between beats you tap are still the same as the actual beat. So your resulting BPM should still be accurate.

    This is analogous to differential signaling.
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    This is brilliant.

    I sort of want to start sequencing some new songs for 2010 righ t now just so that I can use it. Well done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonathonReinhart View Post
    Actually, that would be unnecessary. As your response delay is constant, the intervals between beats you tap are still the same as the actual beat. So your resulting BPM should still be accurate.

    This is analogous to differential signaling.
    Agreed, but what I was trying to convey was the idea of the add-in moving the beat to align closer to the music when it inserts the beat events into the sequence, thus minimizing (or best case eliminating) the need to insert paste and such to align the add-in generated beats to the audio track... or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CrazyG View Post
    Agreed, but what I was trying to convey was the idea of the add-in moving the beat to align closer to the music when it inserts the beat events into the sequence, thus minimizing (or best case eliminating) the need to insert paste and such to align the add-in generated beats to the audio track... or something like that.
    Ah - sorry, I totally missed what you were getting at. My bad - I understand now. Well, after the first beat, is your reaction time going to be any worse than one event period? Perhaps I can just grab the timestamp of the second or third keypress, and use that as my reference point to insert (both forward, to the end of the song, and backward a few beats to the beginning). I'll play around with this.

    The ultimate here would be an add-in that does automatic beat detection, but that would be a lot bigger deal than this add-in. But I wouldn't put it past my spontaneous tendencies :-)
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    Dont mean to bring back an old thread, but man this thing is AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just went back and redid a song I am working on for this year and after running the add in it moved everything closer to where it should be and WOW it looks 100x better. Thanks for this

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    Great to hear, mkess! Thanks!
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