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    Of the "Christmas in Plymouth" site? I've been by his house a few times -- it's not that far from my house -- but I've actually not met him yet! (They don't let me out of the house very often -- even since I overdosed on burning flux during a marathon soldering nite... ;) )

    I'm a pretty busy guy and between all the music I have to sing, church duties and my software company, coupled with late-nights with the soldering iron, I have almost zero time left.

    But I'm hopeful -- sometime this winter I hope to get a chance to chat with him.

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    I Live in Indiana so i haven't met him, but Ive talked to him a lot over at PC. He was one of the first guys to help me out. I have really enjoyed seeing his pictures of the display. I enjoy Christ centered displays.

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    thanks for this thread dirk, i finally built something that will blink and flash.

    what pvc are you using? the only half inch i can find is schedule 40, and a 5/8 dowel will not fit inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmitcham View Post
    thanks for this thread dirk, i finally built something that will blink and flash.

    what pvc are you using? the only half inch i can find is schedule 40, and a 5/8 dowel will not fit inside.
    I bought all the stuff at Loew's.

    The vertical struts were 1/2" Silver-Line PVC-1120 SDR-13.5 Pr.315pso. It's pure white and the Lowe's SKU# is 717141340512. This is the one that the 5/8" dowel fits inside. It has a thinner wall that normal PVC, and if you measure its outside diameter, it's actually 7/8" with an inside diameter of 11/16".

    The hoop base, curiously enough, is also called 1/2" CTS CPVC 4120 Hi TEMP, 100PSI. It's cream colored and has a barcode on it that says its part # 038561599959, is quite flexible and easy to form into a loop. It has an outside diameter of 5/8" and an inside diameter just shy of 1/2".

    So while "both" have 1/2" printed on them, the cream colored hoop base actually will fit inside the other one!!! I have no idea how they measure this stuff or how they keep it straight! :roll:

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    I made my trees almost identical to yours funny enough lol. http://doityourselfchristmas.com/for...ead.php?t=8522


    I also used that cream colored CPEX flex pipe for the base the first time around. This year though when I went to build 4 more treea to add on, I found a cheaper way. Instead of the CPEX at @$4 for 10 ft sections, I found some black flex water line thats the same size and appears to have about the same strength/flex abilities. Its was only around $16 I think for a 100 ft roll.

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    Hi:
    As if I didn't have enough to do already, I have been considering some arches. Do you think the PVC you used for the hoop base would also serve for the arches? I guess the real question is: is it strong enough to support the llights?

    I may not do this, I have a lot to go, but having read some threads about arches and bending PVC, etc, this material might work very well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IdunBenhad View Post
    Hi:
    As if I didn't have enough to do already, I have been considering some arches. Do you think the PVC you used for the hoop base would also serve for the arches? I guess the real question is: is it strong enough to support the llights?

    I may not do this, I have a lot to go, but having read some threads about arches and bending PVC, etc, this material might work very well.
    If the arches are short and close to the ground, the thin stuff may work okay. It's a bit flexible though, and the taller the arch would be, the less structural integrity it'd have and I'd think that wind could blow it around pretty easily. The only reason I used it for the hoop base was because it bent easily and it would be pinned to the ground to hold the tree down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dirknerkle View Post
    The only reason I used it for the hoop base was because it bent easily and it would be pinned to the ground to hold the tree down.
    Dave:

    What are you using to "pin" these to the ground? I have some stakes that came with a commercial tree that I use that are great, but I'm going to have more mini-trees than stakes this year.

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmcole View Post
    Dave:

    What are you using to "pin" these to the ground? I have some stakes that came with a commercial tree that I use that are great, but I'm going to have more mini-trees than stakes this year.

    Thanks.

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    I use some cheap garden stakes. They're galvanized metal but because the base is PVC there aren't any GFCI issues. I think they're originally for installing garden edging. Really cheap as I recall...

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    I take a 15" scrap piece of 1/2 PVC Conduit. I cut the end at angle to create a point. I then heat and bend a loose hook on the end. They work great and they are essentially free. After building last years displays, I proably had 40 ft of scrap 1/2" Grey PVC.
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