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    Any good links to the external on air signs from anyone?
    If you want a desk top version then this LED sign looks good: https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2252799820237618.html
    For scale, this photo shows the 12V W300xH200mm version:



    For outdoor installations you can build your own 12V sign using a backboard populated with LEDs that spell "ON AIR, TUNE TO FM 88.9." Or paint a big sign and illuminate it with bright 12V LED spotlights (that are controlled by PixelRadio).

    is the on-air sign similarly hooked up like the LED is so that it turns on when sensing music through the jack?
    The external On Air sign control port is synced with the front panel LED. They both turn on whenever the RF carrier is active and the test tone mode is disabled (Music Source enabled).
    https://github.com/thomastech/PixelR...re#on-air-sign

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    Not getting audio or test tones using the Soundblaster 3. I've set things up in the FPP plugin also.
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    What am I missing?

    UPDATE: Turned off Stereo and used Mono and things seem to be ok.
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    UPDATE: Turned off Stereo and used Mono and things seem to be ok.
    That is an unexpected solution. Especially since the test tones are independent of the external audio.

    At this point it's a mystery on why you need to use the mono broadcast mode. But check / resolder U8, C8, C9, and the QN8027 module. Use the test tones during your troubleshooting since that would eliminate any issues related to external audio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasLED View Post
    That is an unexpected solution. Especially since the test tones are independent of the external audio.

    At this point it's a mystery on why you need to use the mono broadcast mode. But check / resolder U8, C8, C9, and the QN8027 module. Use the test tones during your troubleshooting since that would eliminate any issues related to external audio.

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    Ok,using the test tones or audio from the Soundblaster,the audio has alot of static on Stereo. Using mono,the static is there,but way less. I'll have to troubleshoot more tomorrow.
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    Using mono,the static is there,but way less.
    Mono mode disables the FM pilot tone and reduces RF bandwidth (better S/N). This improves reception of weak signals and is the main reason the feature exists.

    But if you need stereo audio then there might be an easy remedy. For example, perhaps this issue is interference from an adjacent FM broadcaster or dirty RF source. Try tuning to other unused areas of the FM dial. Also try moving the receiver to other test locations that provide better reception. In some situations merely changing antenna position may help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by munu View Post
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    Also does the board accommodate 1/4W or is the board designed for the smaller 1/8W resistors? I guess I could always mount them vertically but if this project also expects the smaller ones I might just buy a set.
    To answer my own question, the board is designed for 1/8W resistors. 1/4W resistors won't lay flat unless you do some bending or mount them vertically. I got my 1/8W resistors today so all is good

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    Sorry if this was asked before but there are like 43 pages in this thread. As you can see from the picture I am still working on the board. Terrible soldering (ordered some flux because the solder puddled up high on the soldering iron). My question is regarding the housing, though. There are no guides to put the board in. The board is also a couple of mm to large to squeeze it in (you can see how the housing is actually bending). I have some 'stand off screws' to elevate the board but the fact that it doesn't fit into the housing suggest I am doing something wrong.

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    Never mind, I see there is a groove at the very bottom of the case...
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    Quote Originally Posted by munu View Post
    Sorry if this was asked before but there are like 43 pages in this thread. As you can see from the picture I am still working on the board. Terrible soldering (ordered some flux because the solder puddled up high on the soldering iron). My question is regarding the housing, though. There are no guides to put the board in. The board is also a couple of mm to large to squeeze it in (you can see how the housing is actually bending). I have some 'stand off screws' to elevate the board but the fact that it doesn't fit into the housing suggest I am doing something wrong.

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    Never mind, I see there is a groove at the very bottom of the case...
    Hey, don't feel bad. If that is the only mistake you make, your GOOD!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasLED View Post
    Mono mode disables the FM pilot tone and reduces RF bandwidth (better S/N). This improves reception of weak signals and is the main reason the feature exists.

    But if you need stereo audio then there might be an easy remedy. For example, perhaps this issue is interference from an adjacent FM broadcaster or dirty RF source. Try tuning to other unused areas of the FM dial. Also try moving the receiver to other test locations that provide better reception. In some situations merely changing antenna position may help.

    - Thomas
    Re-flowed those those parts I saw,didn't see a U8 on the board or in the BOM,unless I overlooked it,and it didn't make a difference. I did however notice that when my hand or finger was near or touching the L7 jumper wire,there was almost complete silence on Stereo mode.
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    I just be doing something wrong but I am not sure what. C3, the cap in the upper middle is a lot smaller than what the PCB indicates. But it is 100uF/16V from what I can read. Also C10 (lower right) is a lot smaller than the reference image shows. It's a bit confusing because C10 is supposed to be 0.01uF/50V and the other 3 around it are supposed to be 0.01uF/50V so they should be larger. Is C10 just oversized in the reference image (something like 63V or higher)?

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