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    Ok I am seeing many instructable versions and suggestions to build many diff types of matrix.
    Was interested in a simple way to matrix my front windows .
    Original idea was Boscoyo strips with bullets . Attached to an aluminum frame mounted inside the window well area. Sort of like the Matt Johnson style without the pvc .
    Any suggestions or advice would be helpful .
    I looked at some of the matrix controllers and of course to me they all seem complicated.


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    Have you thought about the Boscoyo Chromamesh? It comes in a lot of sizes and is very versatile depending on the resolution you desire.
    2012 - 1st year 64 Channels - 7500 LED lights - 5 sequences
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    Quote Originally Posted by TomL8345 View Post
    Have you thought about the Boscoyo Chromamesh? It comes in a lot of sizes and is very versatile depending on the resolution you desire.
    Missed those somehow thank you


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    do it yourself style matrix controllers are not for ws2811 style matrices. we use those with p10/p5 style panels. If you put together your own matrix with a bullet style pixel, you can drive it with an esp or wired style controller. No need to get wild with the controller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKrebs View Post
    do it yourself style matrix controllers are not for ws2811 style matrices. we use those with p10/p5 style panels. If you put together your own matrix with a bullet style pixel, you can drive it with an esp or wired style controller. No need to get wild with the controller.
    I saw panels and controllers figured it was too much for beginning so wanted to do simpler pixel set up ,thank you.


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    A nice beginner panel matrix package is a tune to sign. I think your lot is pretty short so try p5 panels (2 or 4), an octoscroller, a 5v power supply. The boscoyo connector will make it a little easier to put together. These things are available or will be available shortly at diyledexpress or wiredwatts. Then get a BBB black. The PSU and the BBB are "overkill" for a tune to sign but will allow a lot of flexibility if you expand it some day. Easy to put together a tune to sign and you get your feet wet for the next thing. The BBB will run FPP so that makes it its own controller. You can run your own animations for the tune to sign or sync with your main show. The enclosure is usually a glass/acrylic/polycarbonate faced box. If you want, you could also run a smaller matrix like a tune to off a rPI with a piHat (available at wiredwatts for one). Since this combo is a little less expensive, it might be preferred by some.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeKrebs View Post
    A nice beginner panel matrix package is a tune to sign. I think your lot is pretty short so try p5 panels (2 or 4), an octoscroller, a 5v power supply. The boscoyo connector will make it a little easier to put together. These things are available or will be available shortly at diyledexpress or wiredwatts. Then get a BBB black. The PSU and the BBB are "overkill" for a tune to sign but will allow a lot of flexibility if you expand it some day. Easy to put together a tune to sign and you get your feet wet for the next thing. The BBB will run FPP so that makes it its own controller. You can run your own animations for the tune to sign or sync with your main show. The enclosure is usually a glass/acrylic/polycarbonate faced box. If you want, you could also run a smaller matrix like a tune to off a rPI with a piHat (available at wiredwatts for one). Since this combo is a little less expensive, it might be preferred by some.
    Wow yes forgot I need to do an upgrade for the sign aswell thank you may give it a try


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    My first matrix was a 2'x4' ceiling light grid (those plastic sheets with square holes they used to put up in front of the lights in an office). I hot glued a pixel into every other hole. It has been in use about 6 years now (I still use it) but the plastic is starting to get brittle. 2nd matrix was ws2812 strips attached to a flattened out metal fence section that was held in place by PVC tubes. This one is being retired due to the un-reliability of the WS2812 strips. I have replacement strips for another season or two and then it will be gone. Next grid is in progress and is made from the Boscoyo pixel grid material. I bought the 4'x8' sheet but have cut it in half to make two 4'x4' grids. I will hold the 4x4 grid in place using a PVC frame with a center bar behind the grid to help prevent sagging.


    2020 Full sized show reworked for the new location. Only adding (famous last words) 13 RBLs that I finally got converted to using pixels
    2019 - Just moved into a new home (yet another change of plans). Will be dim but not dark. Too much to do at the new place to leave time for a show. Dim show (3000 pixels) had regular visits most nights.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyX...ttrsZNARkUce0Q

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    Quote Originally Posted by MartinMueller2003 View Post
    My first matrix was a 2'x4' ceiling light grid (those plastic sheets with square holes they used to put up in front of the lights in an office). I hot glued a pixel into every other hole. It has been in use about 6 years now (I still use it) but the plastic is starting to get brittle. 2nd matrix was ws2812 strips attached to a flattened out metal fence section that was held in place by PVC tubes. This one is being retired due to the un-reliability of the WS2812 strips. I have replacement strips for another season or two and then it will be gone. Next grid is in progress and is made from the Boscoyo pixel grid material. I bought the 4'x8' sheet but have cut it in half to make two 4'x4' grids. I will hold the 4x4 grid in place using a PVC frame with a center bar behind the grid to help prevent sagging.
    My windows aren’t real big 2’x5’ and one 3’x 5’ is it possible to use the existing pi that would be running the show or do I need separate controller for matrix’s?


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    Short answer: Yes

    Long answer:
    A single PI 2(or higher) running as a show player (FPP) can drive in excess of 100,000 pixels. The real constraining factor is refresh rate. For real time motion, the max number of pixels in a single string is 600 (40fps aka 25ms). My window grid had 900 pixels so it used two ports on my controllers. A PI Hat typically has two ports so it can run up to 1200 pixels. I use Falcon F16s spread around my yard to drive my show. One is located near the center of the house and drives all of the house elements (windows, doors, snowflakes on roof etc). A 16 port F16 can drive 16 x 600 (the way I use it) = 9600 pixels. I have a master PI that drives three F16s, a remote PI that drives an additional F16 (far side of driveway, connected via WiFi). That remote PI has my tune to matrix a 10' candy cane 6 x 6' pixel trees, 4x4' pixel trees and a renard to drive some AC lights.


    2020 Full sized show reworked for the new location. Only adding (famous last words) 13 RBLs that I finally got converted to using pixels
    2019 - Just moved into a new home (yet another change of plans). Will be dim but not dark. Too much to do at the new place to leave time for a show. Dim show (3000 pixels) had regular visits most nights.
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyX...ttrsZNARkUce0Q

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