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    Hey All....

    I've used the animation face feature for several years to animate my PMT with a talking face.....to make announcements.

    I was toying with adding several small PMTs and animating them to be singing faces.....as I was thinking through it I came up with a question.

    In the "Animation Tab" when it asks you for "number of faces".... I've always entered 1...and it, of course, goes onto my PMT matrix/pixelplane.....

    If I entered more than 1 face....lets say 2..... Would both those faces end up on the PMT matrix/pixelplane or could I, assuming I have 2 matrices/pixel planes, place 1 of the 2 faces on 2 different matrices/pixel planes?

    Or.....do I just need to create another animation effect and apply it to the second matrix/pixelplane?

    Hope that question makes sense...kinda hard to ask that so that it's not confusing....probably due to my lack of knowledge of how the animations tab works once you get beyond 1 face....
    Last edited by Santacarl; 01-20-2018 at 11:44 PM.

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    Create a new sequence from an image to test with .

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    Quote Originally Posted by angus40 View Post
    Create a new sequence from an image to test with .
    Yeah....I know....was just hoping someone would have done it and could give me an idea of how to get started down the right road before I spend hours on top of hours trying to do something that isn't remotely possible....which I have a tendency to do....unless I know the theory so I can at least START in the right direction...

    As you know Rich, I'm somewhat "Intuitively challenged".....

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    Well I am hoping you test it and report back . The one thing in HLS the I have not played with much is face animations .
    I did one song a couple of years ago and recall it work perfectly , but I still have not built face props.
    Hopefully this year I can get to it .

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by angus40 View Post
    Well I am hoping you test it and report back . The one thing in HLS the I have not played with much is face animations .
    I did one song a couple of years ago and recall it work perfectly , but I still have not built face props.
    Hopefully this year I can get to it .

    Cheers
    Rich....I will be happy to report back....lessons learned etc.....

    One reason I was hoping for some experienced feedback is because when I first implemented my animation PMT it took me several days to master the process for the 1 face.......And you're right it works perfectly. I just figured that multiple faces would have another learning curve I'd have to discover through trial and error (which is my Achilles heel due to my frustration going through the roof when I can't get something to work...) But there's no doubt in my mind that HLS gives the best facial representation out there....It's a HUGE hit in my show....(Thanks Joe! ) My talking PMT makes all my announcements and tells jokes..... the kids LOVE it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by angus40 View Post
    Well I am hoping you test it and report back . The one thing in HLS the I have not played with much is face animations .
    I did one song a couple of years ago and recall it work perfectly , but I still have not built face props.
    Hopefully this year I can get to it .

    Cheers
    Per your request Rich....

    I took some time and played with the multiple faces option. I added 4 small pixel trees (about 6 feet tall) and a large PMT in a sequence.

    When you go to the "Animation" tab>"Assign Number of faces" it made all 5 faces available when I went to 'Create Vocal Sheet".

    From there you just proceed as you do with 1 face....complete 1 and come back and do another.... Nothing really different in the steps once you get the multiple faces identified.

    It works like a champ once everything is set up.


    I did run into 1 issue though. Sometimes when you goto “Animation” >”Place Animation Effects” and the “Select Face To Animate” box pops up and you select a face and hit “OK” you don’t always get that face to work with to animate when the “Animation-Create Animation Effects” box pops up….sometimes a different face will pop up in the “Animation-Create Animation Effects” box and unless you catch it you’ll edit another animation face instead of the one you clicked on to select.

    Check VERY closely at the bottom of the “Animation-Create Animation Effects” box where it says ”working vocals” to make sure it gives you access to the face you clicked on and really intended to work on and not a different face…..

    It threw me for a loop for a couple of hours as I kept losing previously placed and saved face effects.....the first effect in the word/mouth lines would get nuked and just gone...but the second effect would still be there as normal. I kept adding effects back to tree 3 and suddenly tree 1 would be missing the first effect....fix tree 1 and tree 2 would screw up....I about pulled my hair out for a while thinking I must be doing something wrong until I caught the mis-assigned model sneaking itself in instead of the one I chose....and I even questioned that I might have inadvertently hit the wrong face.....but then when I watched very closely I observed the gremlin do its thing...... Now if it does that I just cancel and start over until it gives me the model I want selected..... Not a big deal once you KNOW about it.....A bug maybe….
    Last edited by Santacarl; 02-12-2018 at 11:14 PM.

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    Curious to know...what is a PMT? I couldn't figure it out based on your context, and sat here for a minute thinking of acronym descriptions.

    Pixel Matrix Tree?
    Pixel Mounting Tool?
    Possibly Missing Teeth? lol just fumbling about at this point

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoobysnacks View Post
    Curious to know...what is a PMT? I couldn't figure it out based on your context, and sat here for a minute thinking of acronym descriptions.

    Pixel Matrix Tree?
    Pixel Mounting Tool?
    Possibly Missing Teeth? lol just fumbling about at this point
    Your 3rd acronym best describes the guys after I caught destroying my neighbors yard display last year .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoobysnacks View Post
    Curious to know...what is a PMT? I couldn't figure it out based on your context, and sat here for a minute thinking of acronym descriptions.

    Pixel Matrix Tree?
    Pixel Mounting Tool?
    Possibly Missing Teeth? lol just fumbling about at this point
    Pixel Matrix Tree....sorry to confuse....sometimes when I type my fingers get ahead of my brain....

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    Seeing as his is my first year and I need to do this is there a YouTube video on how this is done? With just the one face.


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