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    Default Re: Beagle Bone Vs sending/receiving cards for P10?

    FPP's main job is to be the show player. So you'd use it instead of the LOR show computer to play your show. It's a ton more flexible than LOR anyhow.

    I'm not terribly familiar with the pixie controllers, but i know that they're driven with serial lines based on the LOR protocol. In the grand scheme of things, they're a bit of an oddball pixel controller. I don't know if the FPP can drive them or not.

    If you're going to add a P10 matrix and plan on driving it with sequence data from LOR, you're going to need to send it out of LOR via sACN/e1.31. So you're going to need a solution that can receive sACN and output either directly to panels, or convert it to the protocol that can be sent to the receiving card. FPP can be configured in bridge mode. In this mode, it will receive sACN data and can do a number of different things with it. It can drive panels directly, or output it via the receiver card protocol. But if you choose the latter, you'll need separate Ethernet interfaces for the incoming sACN and the outgoing line to the receiver cards.

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    yes, i have that setup now, separate ethernet to a router then to the BBB in bridge mode so LOR can control the panels using DMX universes and the LOR pixie controllers run off the LOR dongle using up com ports, not ethernet E1.31
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    So glad I came across this thread. I'm planning on adding a small matrix for a tune to sign in 2018 and was curious about using a receiving card. My tune to sign will let less than ten feet from my main Fpp master so the thought of adding another pi seemed like a bit of over kill. Glad to hear that receiving card is an option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster519 View Post
    So glad I came across this thread. I'm planning on adding a small matrix for a tune to sign in 2018 and was curious about using a receiving card. My tune to sign will let less than ten feet from my main Fpp master so the thought of adding another pi seemed like a bit of over kill. Glad to hear that receiving card is an option.
    what are you using to send the signal, software and card wise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wichita View Post
    I am using Pi3 with Ron's Adapter loaded with FPP for my 12 panels. I can run the panels either straight from the Pi or run it in bridge mode and use Vixen3 or Xlights from my PC. The options I know of are from the Falcon Christmas forum and they are Beagle Bone with Octoscroller, Rasberry Pi with an adapter, or Rasberry Pi with a sender card. The sender card option is still in beta as far as I can tell. But they all use FPP ( Falcon Pi Player).
    Where is Ron's adapter available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by brichi View Post
    what are you using to send the signal, software and card wise?
    Currently I'm running dual e682's with a Pi 3 running FPP. Pi plugs into a network switch and signal is disbursed from there. My plan will be to get one of the receiving cards and basically play with it to see how I can set it up to run through the router (hopefully someone has done this and has a walk through). Since my P10 matrix will be simple and small, it doesn't necessarily need to tie into the Vixen software but it could be fun if it did. This is why I'm trying to start so early this year, I have big plans for 2018!!

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    same here, I have a lot of ideas with P10's, i just built a 54 panel display and heading to do another for both my second story windows to do video in LOR along with my sequences i already programmed. right now i have a BBB with an octoscroller to control it

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    The guys over on the AUS forum use a small card for a tune to sign and P10 panels:
    http://www.smartaleclights.com/shop/...&product_id=71
    Here's a quick video on using them:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZ7...ature=youtu.be
    Here's a discussion thread on the controllers and using with various panels:
    https://auschristmaslighting.com/thr...ll-types.9172/
    Smartalec over on AUS forums sells them, but they can be purchased on Aliexpress as well.
    Phil

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrNeutron View Post
    The guys over on the AUS forum use a small card for a tune to sign and P10 panels:
    http://www.smartaleclights.com/shop/...&product_id=71
    Here's a quick video on using them:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTZ7...ature=youtu.be
    Here's a discussion thread on the controllers and using with various panels:
    https://auschristmaslighting.com/thr...ll-types.9172/
    Smartalec over on AUS forums sells them, but they can be purchased on Aliexpress as well.
    I have seen that video and it looks simple enough. My thought with it was price seems to be right in line with a Pi Zero and an adapter. So for the price I would go with the later option. While quickly searching this morning, I was able to find a simple receiver card, I believe the colorlight 5a-75b for about $20 including shipping. It all just depends on how everything is able to be controlled and what I want to be able to do. I understand that $35 is a small price to pay for things in this hobby and I'm probably splitting hairs over something that can be accomplished many different ways, but I'll always try to save a couple of bucks whenever I can.

    For me, one of the main features I'm looking for is something I can control remotely, say from inside my house. I already us my main pi in bridge mode to reach my e682's, so being able to reach my small matrix would be very convenient if possible and simple. I'm not completely oblivious to the fact that once the show is running I should never need to touch my matrix unless there is a major issue, but I guess I'm a bit of a control freak in this regard and some times just like to "look in" on everything to make sure things are ok.

    Edit: Sorry I just double checked the price for the AUS controller is only $30 plus shipping.

    Edit #2: After actually paying attention to currency and the exchange rate we can drop to $23, SMH. That's an impressive little machine for that price. Probably the route I will go now. Thank you!
    Last edited by Rooster519; 01-16-2018 at 11:23 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rooster519 View Post
    Edit #2: After actually paying attention to currency and the exchange rate we can drop to $23, SMH. That's an impressive little machine for that price. Probably the route I will go now. Thank you!
    It all depends on what you want to do with the matrix. If you want a "static" display that you rarely change (even if it is animated), then there are several options for driving the panels. If you want to be able to sequence what you put on the panels and change that every so often or put the song title and artist on the panels or the display time or a Christmas countdown, then having the ability to play a fseq or send data over E1.31 is a bonus.

    If you do go the ColorLight route, you will need a Gig-E USB network interface on the Pi since the receiver cards won't link up at 100Mbit. Right now, this might be my main driving factor in having a SD image for a platform other than the Pi, so we could have a platform with built in Gig-E for this and potential other reasons.

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