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    Default Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    My ren is not accepting any commands. There is only one, JP2 jumper installed and it is connected w/ a special RJ45 from my Falcon. The cable and the JP2 setting has been tested with my other Ren. So, I trust that the setup is good. I originally thought that my U6-8 PICs were bad and I have reprogrammed and tested them and they all work.

    So now I am trying to figure what is wrong and I am following this guide:
    https://www.doityourselfchristmas.co...he_Renard_SS24

    In running through the diag chart and perform the Troubleshooting SSR Circuitry Problems and Verifying Diagnostic LEDs all works correctly.
    I place the Diag PIC in and no lights work, none of the LEDs go on. I take the same PIC and place it in my other REN and it begins to light up the LEDs.

    What am I missing? What is wrong with the first Ren?
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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    First thing to do is reflow the solder joints on U6 and then try again.
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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    To be clear, remove the old solder and re solder. Correct.


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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    No need to remove old solder,

    just reheat so the solder will flow across the joint and make a good connection
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    Thx


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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    Also make sure you have a jumper on JP3. This gives the on-board LEDs power. Without that, they'll stay dark forever.

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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    Thank you. the lights work, when testing the good ren. Going to try to reflow.


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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    Reflowed the U6 and not lights. I tried the program PIC and the diag PIC no lights (or LED lights) from either PIC. Next place to look?
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    Default Re: Renard SS24 Troubleshooting

    If the LEDs are working, then it is in the SSR circuitry. Are the MOCs in backwards?
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    Thank Wayne,

    Yes, the LEDs work, only when I remove the PIC and use the jumper wire to test each LED. That is the only time it works. The Ren used to work properly, I had to reseat/reflow the power IC chip, for I was not getting enough power. All the tests since then seems to "work" correctly when checking the board. With the exception of the Diag PIC and not receiving any data flow from Vixen/Falcon.
    The MOCs are not backwards.

    This is painful. All this time I thought it was the PICs and it turns out that it was not! Arg!
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    2015 5 RenardSS24 @ 20,600 lights
    2014 5 RenardSS24 @ 18,600 lights
    2013 3 RenardSS24 @ 9,900 lights
    2012 2 RenardSS24 @ 6,000 lights
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