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    Quote Originally Posted by scootchu View Post
    It's like a mini audit controller in a box!!!!!!
    Ok... I'll bite.. what is a mini audit controller?

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    It's that accountant in your company that watches EVERYTHING that goes out and comes in. The needle in the haystack guy that finds the needle. Also known as a controller, auditor auditor-controller. Accounts for every Milliamp, that was my analogy. Much funnier with a accompanying rimshot and live audience.

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    Legitimate question... The lights that I have on a GFCI outlet just went out. I'm in San Diego and it's raining (it never rains in San Diego so I've never had this problem). I assume it has something to do with the rain based upon another posters comment. How do I identify where the problem exists so I can fix it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by savageelf View Post
    Legitimate question... The lights that I have on a GFCI outlet just went out. I'm in San Diego and it's raining (it never rains in San Diego so I've never had this problem). I assume it has something to do with the rain based upon another posters comment. How do I identify where the problem exists so I can fix it?
    Some more information about your display would help.

    Usually connections in puddles of water or more likely, metal minitrees or 3D wireframes like deer touching the ground tend to cause GFCIs to trip.

    You can identify where the problem is by turning on one element at a time. You may find that you can turn on all of your show one piece at a time but all together it goes out. This means it is a cumulative effect and if you have more than one minitree or wireframe, try lighting multiple items until it pops, you should then be able to tell which items need isolation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrd View Post
    Some more information about your display would help.

    Usually connections in puddles of water or more likely, metal minitrees or 3D wireframes like deer touching the ground tend to cause GFCIs to trip.

    You can identify where the problem is by turning on one element at a time. You may find that you can turn on all of your show one piece at a time but all together it goes out. This means it is a cumulative effect and if you have more than one minitree or wireframe, try lighting multiple items until it pops, you should then be able to tell which items need isolation.
    Thanks JRD. My display is all static LED (minis and C9's) this point. I'm building towards bigger and better! I will try to isolate it by what you describe. Is it possible that water has gotten into the female plugs in my extension cord that aren't being used? Do you typically put tape over those areas so water doesn't get in?

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    I don't think tape is a good idea, it may trap water in. I just place a brick where the connection is so it's not in a puddle. I've also gotten good at putting twist into the wire making a loop with the connection on the top. I've only had problems with puddles, my deer have always been fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageelf View Post
    Thanks JRD. My display is all static LED (minis and C9's) this point. I'm building towards bigger and better! I will try to isolate it by what you describe. Is it possible that water has gotten into the female plugs in my extension cord that aren't being used? Do you typically put tape over those areas so water doesn't get in?
    Static you can still do piecemeal checks, you just have to unplug everything and then go around plugging them in again.

    Water can and probably will get into unused female outlets. When I have open females they are usually on triple tap indoor type extension cords and have a plastic cover flap which I use to cover the unused outlets.(these are usually on the 2 outlet side as I generally only have one thing plugged in to each channel.) I would not advise tape either, like skunberg said, it can trap water inside and also, it makes a mess.

    The biggest thing is really keeping connections out of bodies of water.

    Where do you live? I imagine places with more acidic rain would have more trouble with GFCIs popping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jrd View Post
    Static you can still do piecemeal checks, you just have to unplug everything and then go around plugging them in again.

    Water can and probably will get into unused female outlets. When I have open females they are usually on triple tap indoor type extension cords and have a plastic cover flap which I use to cover the unused outlets.(these are usually on the 2 outlet side as I generally only have one thing plugged in to each channel.) I would not advise tape either, like skunberg said, it can trap water inside and also, it makes a mess.

    The biggest thing is really keeping connections out of bodies of water.

    Where do you live? I imagine places with more acidic rain would have more trouble with GFCIs popping.
    Yep, I'm in San Diego. I have the same problem with my outdoor landscape lighting when it rains. Thanks for the help!

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    Quote Originally Posted by savageelf View Post
    Yep, I'm in San Diego. I have the same problem with my outdoor landscape lighting when it rains. Thanks for the help!
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