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    Your hearing this here first, I think.

    I just got word that there will be a 8MM domed RGB LED with a built in WS2811 IC. This will be just like the 5050 with the built in WS2811. I expect the price of pixel strings to come down soon once it's released.

    The WS2811 snowfall tubes that I'm working on my go color now.

    Can you say "COOL"

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    "COOL"


    In all seriousness, this is great news. With the lack of after Christmas sales, I have yet to spend all my money, and going RGB for some things are the way to go. Two years ago, pixels were over $1 a piece, and I got mine last September for $.45. How low do you expect these to go? Anything near $.20?

    Time to make some pixel mini trees
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    COOL I also 'need' to spend my money on RGB/Pixels.....
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    Does this mean that the WS2811 is becoming somewhat of a "standard"? (for embedding within different types of LEDs). If so, that's great - it will probably stay around longer than other types of drivers.

    I'm wondering what the target applications for this are. The 5050 SMD RGB LED + on-board WS2811 is clearly intended for use with LED strips, where you have a large number of them relatively close together. Domed LEDs are typically used one or a small number at a time as indicators on PCBs, so that is probably not the intended purpose. They are also used in larger numbers in row/column grids so I'm thinking that would be the intended application here. (ie, LEDTriks or other display panels). If that is the case, then the cost would need to be comparable to existing dumb LEDs + drivers in order for that to be competitive.

    Another application would be in RGB LED strings (wires between the nodes rather than PCBs). Hopefully that is also an intended application, because it will mean better RGB LED strings. There wouldn't be much of a PCB required for that, so I'm wondering if they are also working on a simple plug-in socket for these that just requires wires and not a PCB, similar to incandescent mini-lights. That means they are really going after the incandescent mini-light market segment if that's their goal. OTOH LED strings seem to be mainly for decorative purposes (ie, Christmas lights) rather than signage (grids/panels), so it seems unlikely that they would make this just for that market unless they are seeing a huge potential market. That would be nice, because it means that we will have more options available for DIYC.

    I guess I should stop trying to read between the lines. How did you hear about these?

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    I don't want to say much more but it come from a good source, please don't ask, that has good information.

    I'm really jazzed about this. I can see pixel strings breaking the $0.030 level per node. Remember we're getting really close to where the enclosure, PCB and wire are the bulk of the cost.

    Using the pricing on Ray's web site the WS2811 is about $0.12 and the combined WS2811/5050 is $0.15. The 5050 or the 8MM LED is $0.09. Given that I would expect a minimum $0.06 drop per pixel which would give us a cost of $14 to $15 for 50.

    Looking at this a different way the cost of a string of 50 RGB LEDs in the non-pixel version is $0.25 per node. Given that the LED with the WS2811 is about $0.03 more that would make it $14.00 for a string of 50.

    So based on the above numbers I think we on fairly safe ground that the price is going to be right around $14.00 per string of 50 and maybe a tad more with the UV resistant wire so maybe $15.00.

    At these prices even including shipping for a reasonable number the pricing is close to or even less than the cost of regular Christmas lights. If your combining Christmas lights into super strings then there is really no comparison, the RGB pixels are going to be less expensive.

    As I said, I'm jazzed.

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    So amazing how quickly things are changing! This will be my 3rd year. I started all LED (and not the cheap kind), thinking I was future-proofing my display for years.

    But even at current price points, it's cheaper to go pixel than multiple strands of commercial LED. This next year, I will be replacing a lot of items with pixels. Keeping my fingers crossed that software will eventually catch up to taking advantage of all of the new possibilities.

    I always read your posts carefully, because you always seem to have your ear to the ground with china and manufacturing. Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlowe View Post
    Keeping my fingers crossed that software will eventually catch up to taking advantage of all of the new possibilities.
    Try HLS


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    Great news. I havent dove into rgb pixels yet waiting for the technolgy to stabilize to some standard, much like a sirmple 595 to a renard dimmer.
    Will keep my ear to the ground
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    Quote Originally Posted by timon View Post
    Your hearing this here first, I think.

    I just got word that there will be a 8MM domed RGB LED with a built in WS2811 IC. This will be just like the 5050 with the built in WS2811. I expect the price of pixel strings to come down soon once it's released.

    The WS2811 snowfall tubes that I'm working on my go color now.

    Can you say "COOL"

    YES for many reasons, please keep us posted. Interestingly enough, i just salivated on your new snowfall project ) I'm in!
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