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    Default Tips for sequencing talking faces

    (I did a couple of searches here and didn't turn up any useful results - maybe wrong keywords)

    Are there any tips on how to sequence for talking faces? Lips in particular.

    A typical face might have a smallish O and 2-3 wider mouth openings. How have you synchronized that to the words of the soundtrack? Did you try to emulate actual mouth positions (watch yourself in a mirror while singing along?), or is it more abstract or formulaic?

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    Default Re: Tips for sequencing talking faces

    I did a quick one where I only used two positions, mouth open and mouth closed. I ran the audio through a mid-range pass filter so that it contained mostly the voice. Then I ran it through an expander so that it exaggerated the loud and the soft sounds.

    Next I used the Waveform add-in in Vixen and spread it across eight temporary channels. Then I just picked the channel with the most realistic looking response to the voice and made it the open and inverted it for the closed. A little minor editing and it were finished in a short time. The song that I was working on had a fairly pronounced voice so it actually took only a few minutes to get 90%. I played it back at half speed and made a few corrections.

    This wouldn’t work if you wanted a phonetic look. I’m sure there is a way to use some speech to text software with a little ingenuity, to get you pretty close though.
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    After you read the link duramadmax suggested take a look at the addin I came up with for converting the papagayo file to Vixen. If you go the papagayo route it should save you a bit of time.
    http://doityourselfchristmas.com/for...light=papagayo

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    Default Re: Tips for sequencing talking faces

    Does anyone have a link where I can download Papagayo 1.3.5.3?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Festus View Post
    Does anyone have a link where I can download Papagayo 1.3.5.3?
    Just google papagayo software
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    Quote Originally Posted by Festus View Post
    Does anyone have a link where I can download Papagayo 1.3.5.3?
    It's called papagayoMOD_1.3.5.3_win32.rar. I just downloaded it from here and it seems to work well.

    http://www.divshare.com/download/208225-e2d

    There are a couple of features which may come in useful as compared to the Papagayo 1.2 version I have used all along and I'll look at it closer when I get the chance. Thanks for asking the question or I would never have known to look for it.

    Two interesting threads you might want to check out. The first is on papagayoMOD progression and features.
    http://www.lostmarble.com/forum/view...ht=papagayomod

    The second is the latest word on papagayo but this version doesn't seem to have the papagayoMOD features included (at least not in the version I downloaded).
    http://www.lostmarble.com/forum/view...ht=papagayomod

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    Default Re: Tips for sequencing talking faces

    Here is a tutorial you might be interested in
    http://forums.lightorama.com/view_to...jump_to=310923

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    Try this link. One of the better ones I've seen.

    http://doityourselfchristmas.com/for...d-Talking-Bush

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