DCSSR Parts Group Buy

[WWNF911]

***** Closed !!! *****


Parts Group Buy for the DCSSR

Group Buy Rules: Read before posting in this thread (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2919)

By participating in this Group Buy all participants agree to release www.doityourselfchristmas.com (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/../), its Owners, Administrators, Moderators or any other staff of any and all liability and waive all rights I may have under all laws and governing bodies. By posting in this thread you agree you are entering a binding contract between the Organizer and the Participant.
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NOTE: This is a group buy for parts only. No circuit boards will be included. The boards are available from myself or Wjohn.

For a description of the DCSSR please see the Wiki:
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=4_Channel_DCSSR_Assembly_Instructi ons

Duration

This group buy will close as soon as any of the following criteria are met (whichever is first):


On July 15th, 2009 at midnight (EDT, GMT-4).
When 50 participants are reached.
Or When 150 kits are reached.

Once the group buy closes, totals will be calculated and payment instructions will be given. All payments will be expected within 5 days of the group buy closing.
Bill of Materials


Mouser part # Description Quantity
__________________________________________________ ______________
80-C322C104Z5U Cap .1 uf 1
512-LM78L05ACZX Voltage regulator 1
660-CFS1/4CT52R471J Resistor 470 OHM 1/4 watt 4
660-CFP1/4CT52R103J Resistor 10 KOHM 1/4 watt 4
660-CFS1/4CT52R681J Resistor 680 OHM 1/4 watt 5
571-5520251-4 RJ-45 Jack Side entry 1
512-HUF75309P3 MOSFET 4
782-K847PH Optocoupler 16P 1
604-WP7104IT LED (red) 1
538-39890-0302 Terminal Block 5
571-1-390261-4 IC Socket 16P 1


*Some substitutions were made due to availability. Please see the Wiki for the Official BOM

Based on the interest numbers, There is currently sufficient stock available at Mouser.
Price
Note: The actual price breaks will be caulculated when the group buy closes. These prices don't include shipping and Paypal charges. The shipping costs from the suppliers to me will be divided up equally. A small charge will be added for ESD materials. Totals will be posted here with payment instructions after the group buy closes. All totals shown here are based on Mouser prices as of 7/2/2009. At the end of the group buy, actual totals will be calculated, based on the prices at that time.


If you were to order parts from Mouser for a single board today (2 July 2009), your total would be: $9.45 plus shipping and or fees.
*MOSFET from original BOM (wiki) would've caused this value to actually be $10.86 per kit.

If we reach the 150 level, the cost less shipping, paypal, etc. would be approx $5.25 per board.
*MOSFET substitution availability/ original BOM (wiki) part caused this to go up eventually to $6.65 per kit.

Shipping

Shipping PM's will be sent out seperately from the Group buy cost PM's. You will be sent a PM for your shipping amount when that process has started and I have an accurate amount.

Paypal
2.9% of total cost + $.30 (actual Paypal fees).

Current Participants

NAME Quantity Paid Shipping Pkg arrived
Omzig 8 Y Y Y
DeanCollins 10 Y Y Y
LabRat 6 Y Y Y
budude 4 Y Y Y
joneslights 5 Y Y Y
mheuer 4 Y Y Y
Thomo 10 Y Y Y
KeithTarpley 50 Y Y Y
TimW 10 Y Y Y
snething 5 Y Y Y
jasonhuff 20 Y Y Y
eswets 12 Y Y Y
lizard050 6 Y Y Y

Current Totals (may not include recently added requests).
DCSSR Kits ordered - 150

Currently parts kits using the totals above would cost:
approx. - $6.65 plus shipping and paypal

(Hope you don't mind Don. I liked your template.)

* = Notes added after the Group buy was complete to show members lessons learned and give direction regarding BOM used and official (wiki) BOM.

[WWNF911]

Reserved.

[omzig]

Nice template!

I'll take 8

Thanks Leon!

[DeanCollins]

I will take 10.

Cheers,
Dean

[WWNF911]

I agree Don. I hope you don't mind.
Truth is, I needed something to help me. Last night I had a killer headache and barely made it through. As some have realized I missed editing a comment at the bottom about PIC programming. Thanks for the catch guys! If you see anything else that I missed please don't hesitate to speak up. (It is my first time running a group buy and although it appears to be light duty, it was the most needed item)

[mrpackethead]

at 150 boards whats the estimated cost?

[WWNF911]

approx. $5.24 plus shipping paypal etc.

MPH - In your signature, don't you mean WIW? You must've had "some" WOW's at your light show. ;)

[omzig]

I agree Don. I hope you don't mind.
Truth is, I needed something to help me. Last night I had a killer headache and barely made it through. As some have realized I missed editing a comment at the bottom about PIC programming. Thanks for the catch guys! If you see anything else that I missed please don't hesitate to speak up. (It is my first time running a group buy and although it appears to be light duty, it was the most needed item)No I don't mind. I'm glad that it saved you some time. I actually had a PM typed up last night about the PIC programming thing, but I got a little sleepy and never actually submitted it.

IMO, this is a nice size group buy to run. The 36-part BOM RenSS buy that I recently did was a lot of work; a little more than I had expected. Although, the fact that the total savings was over $2700 made it worth the effort as far as I was concerned. I can't even imagine doing the massive multi-BOM parts coops of the past (which are now against the rules).

[Wayne J]

No I don't mind. I'm glad that it saved you some time. I actually had a PM typed up last night about the PIC programming thing, but I got a little sleepy and never actually submitted it.

IMO, this is a nice size group buy to run. The 36-part BOM RenSS buy that I recently did was a lot of work; a little more than I had expected. Although, the fact that the total savings was over $2700 made it worth the effort as far as I was concerned. I can't even imagine doing the massive multi-BOM parts coops of the past (which are now against the rules).

Which is why they are not allowed any more. It is just too much for one person to do.

We do do thank you for the great savings you supplied to everyone who participated in that buy.

[LabRat]

Please sign me up for 5.

Thank you.

[budude]

I would like 4 please.

Thanks
Brian

[joneslights]

5 for me please.

Please note new qty, thanks

[mheuer]

Please put me down for 4 sets.

Thanks.

[Thomo]

Please put me down for 10.
Thanks for organising

Cheers for now,
Thomo

[WWNF911]

PROPOSAL

Well gents,

I find myself in unchartered waters. The group buy interest thread that I ran prior showed an interest in 88 kits. We're half way there and no where near the 150 limit. At this point I find myself feeling obligated to propose extending the closing date til July 30th 2009. In doing this, we can allow more time for members to join and the more that join, the more savings. I personally have no interest one way or another as I am not participating, just organizing.

In order for this to happen I am asking everyone to vote and will allow until midnight tomorrow (15 July 2009) to receive all the votes. To extend until the 30th the vote MUST be unanimous.

You may vote:
1. Not to extend (This vote will be accepted as your willingness to accept the cost savings as it stands on midnight 15 July 2009.)
2. To Extend until 30 July 2009

Or you final option is to drop from the group buy. By doing this prior to closing, you will not be obligated. Obviously, Anyone who drops from the group buy, their vote will not count.

Thanks
Leon

[budude]

Extending is OK with me.

[LabRat]

Leon,

First off, Thanks for organizing (particularily if you aren't even buying.. that's just nuts).
Second, in order to make an informed decision, do you have an estimate of the price at the current count (88 is it?) vs at 150 units? (wondering what savings is there in waiting)

Thanks

[WWNF911]

Labrat,
Please check back to post #1 for the info you're asking for. (look immediately beneath the list of participants.
Tha current level is 46 NOT 88. The number 88 I was refering to was from the group buy interest thread that I started prior to atarting this group buy. additionally, it was in this thread (interest) in which I announced my desire to give back. That's the reason and the only reason I'm doing something that's "Just nuts". But then again I was commited to running the group buy that was needed most in the interest thread.
Thanks
Leon

[LabRat]

Labrat,
Please check back to post #1 for the info you're asking for. (look immediately beneath the list of participants.
Tha current level is 46 NOT 88. The number 88 I was refering to was from the group buy interest thread that I started prior to starting this group buy. additionally, it was in this thread (interest) in which I announced my desire to give back. That's the reason and the only reason I'm doing something that's "Just nuts". But then again I was commited to running the group buy that was needed most in the interest thread.
Thanks
Leon

My bad on the 46 vs 88.
As per the information in the first post..

"D'OH!!" - I went there before posting, but stopped after reading the "PRICE" section. If I had read down a little further I would have seen the info I was after. Sorry about that.

I'll mull this over now. Thanks again.

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

Please put me down for 50 units. And I don't mind waiting several weeks to allow others to join or add a unit or more.

Thanks, Leon.

Keith

[TimW]

Hi Leon,
Put me down for 10 units. Happy to wait.

Thanks
Tim

[LabRat]

According to my digging, if we wait I would save enough to buy another unit.
So if it's not too complex a request,

*IF* we are waiting (and I'm ok with that) - I'd like to increase my purchase from 5 to 6.
*IF* we are NOT waiting - I'll stick with the 5.

I realize that I'm small potatoes compared to the 50+ orders flying around, but I have to start somewhere. ;)

Thanks again for organizing this.

Andrew

[snething]

Please sign me up for 5 kits. I have no problem waiting.

Thanks,
Scot

[budude]

I tend to agree with LabRat - if we get to the magic 150 mark where the cost is almost half - I may buy a few more since the overall cost to me would be about the same.

[jasonhuff]

I have no issue waiting. In the mean time put me down for 20, and if we hit the 150 mark ill take 10 more.

[eswets]

I'll take 12 kits. I can wait also.

I had waited till close to the end to see how many kits to order based on price. I would love to see the lowest price we can get. I think a lot of people wait till the end to see if they can afford more based on price (like Labrat was saying).
Thanks for putting this together.
Eric

[mheuer]

I would be happy with waiting also.

Paypal recently did a 'false positive' by blocking one of my orders,
so the extra time will allow me to move funds into my balance to prevent such a block on this order as well.

Thanks for organizing this buy.

[lizard050]

please put me down for 6 vote for waiting also

[WWNF911]

Closed !

[WWNF911]

Gents,

I started off this morning thinking that this Group Buy was turning out to be not worth it. I am at present eating Crow though. I'd like to take this opportunity to thank all who joined and to appologize to those who thought that they "might" order more if we hit the 150 mark. Truth be told we are only allowed a limit of 150 by the Group Buy Rules and if my calculations are correct we hit 150 tonight. So the extension is not necessary. I'll go re-tally up the numbers to ensure I'm correct and will then post to let you know.

Thanks again.

Leon

[WWNF911]

Well it looks as if I was a little premature. We're at 149. After careful re-reading, LabRat said he wanted one more if we extend to the 30th. I'm gonna allow him to reconsider. If he doesn't want it I'll throw it up for grabs.

Leon

***EDIT***

After careful re-re-reading LabRats recent post it sounds like he will want it as waiting would allow him to afford one more. Since we met our limit, I'll assume that means he can afford it. Once again, I'll give him the consideration to concur. If he does not want it I'm sure someone in this group will and we'll just leave it at that.

Once again thanks to all!!!

***** This Group Buy is Closed !!! *****

[joneslights]

If he doesn't want it, I'll take it. I was going to order 3 more anyway.

[LabRat]

I guess I should have worded my response a little better. My intent was that if we were to wait in order to get to 150, then I could afford to get 6 instead of 5. That doesn't require my waiting until the 30th.

So my intent was to increase my order to 6.

If it's a hassle, etc. I can live with 5 (but would prefer the 6 ;) ).

Andrew

[LabRat]

An observation - the RJ45 jack listed in the BOM (571-5520251-4) is currently out of stock. Perhaps we should consider using the jacks offered by 51fordf2 (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7560)??

It might save us a little more.. but it might also make things too complex.

[WWNF911]

Boy that sucks. I was just gonna get the payment PM's out. Looks like we have a couple of problem children. Officially accepting advise/ options on finding suitable substitutes that everyone can agree on.

[WWNF911]

An observation - the RJ45 jack listed in the BOM (571-5520251-4) is currently out of stock. Perhaps we should consider using the jacks offered by 51fordf2 (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7560)??

It might save us a little more.. but it might also make things too complex.

Those appear to be sold out

[joneslights]

Boy that sucks. I was just gonna get the payment PM's out. Looks like we have a couple of problem children. Officially accepting advise/ options on finding suitable substitutes that everyone can agree on.

Arrow has the opto's .77 each.

[LabRat]

RE: Jacks

This is the proposed jack for the SSRez, it is a top entry vs side entry.
571-5556416-1 (http://ca.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?qs=BcfjnG7NVaWdmQoO%2fQTgVA%3d% 3d)

Would this be acceptable? (also looks to save a couple of pennies as well)

RE: Optocoupler/Isolators

Took a look for replacement parts, and the Toshiba TLP621-4 is supposedly compatible. However, it is somewhat more expensive. The Vishay part (in quantity is $0.98, whereas the Toshiab will run $1.75). There's likely to be other parts out there, or alternate sources. [Note back order date on the Vishay is mis-september]

Just saw the post that Arrow has them!! (phew)

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

Try Newark or FutureElectronics.

Keith

[Thomo]

Boy that sucks. I was just gonna get the payment PM's out. Looks like we have a couple of problem children. Officially accepting advise/ options on finding suitable substitutes that everyone can agree on.

Hi guys. Here's a couple of possible replacements from Futurlec...
What do you think?

RJ45:
MODS8W8W
USD$0.50 ea 100+
Currently in-stock for QTY 150 according to email from sales.
http://www.futurlec.com/ConnModular.shtml

Quad Opto:
PS2501-4
USD$0.70 ea 100+
Haven't had a reply about stock on this one yet...
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml

Shipping:
Standard Post*
For orders up to US$29, Delivery Charge - US$4.00.
For orders US$30 to US$49, Delivery Charge - US$6.00
For order US$50 to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$9.00
For order US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$14.00

Express Post - Express Pak Only
For orders up to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$22.00.
For order US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$44.00
For orders shipped in Cartons, Express Charges are charged at actual cost.

Courier - Courier Pak Only
For orders up to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$33.00.
For orders US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$66.00
For orders shipped in Cartons, Courier Charges are charged at actual cost.

* Note: Maximum allowable weight for Standard Post shipments is 2kg. For shipments heavier than 2kg these will be shipped by Express Post at the actual shipping costs.

[budude]

You may want to ask 51fordf2 (Roger) if he is willing to part with some of his RJ45s - he was selling of a lot of them previously (I got 100 myself). I forget the individual cost but it was below 10 cents...

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

Forgive me for not being specific. Newark and FutureElectronics are both showing sufficient current quantities of RJ45s under the manufactuer part number 5520251-4.

Keith

[WWNF911]

Hi guys. Here's a couple of possible replacements from Futurlec...
What do you think?

RJ45:
MODS8W8W
USD$0.50 ea 100+
Currently in-stock for QTY 150 according to email from sales.
http://www.futurlec.com/ConnModular.shtml

Quad Opto:
PS2501-4
USD$0.70 ea 100+
Haven't had a reply about stock on this one yet...
http://www.futurlec.com/LEDOpto.shtml

Shipping:
Standard Post*
For orders up to US$29, Delivery Charge - US$4.00.
For orders US$30 to US$49, Delivery Charge - US$6.00
For order US$50 to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$9.00
For order US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$14.00

Express Post - Express Pak Only
For orders up to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$22.00.
For order US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$44.00
For orders shipped in Cartons, Express Charges are charged at actual cost.

Courier - Courier Pak Only
For orders up to US$99, Delivery Charge - US$33.00.
For orders US$100 and above, Delivery Charge - US$66.00
For orders shipped in Cartons, Courier Charges are charged at actual cost.

* Note: Maximum allowable weight for Standard Post shipments is 2kg. For shipments heavier than 2kg these will be shipped by Express Post at the actual shipping costs.

***EDIT*** - Just read closer,... :oops:
Please do let me know when you hear back about stock on the opto's. Thanks


Arrow has the opto's .77 each.
This may be our other option. Thanks





Thanks to all for the help! I can tell this is a GREAT bunch! You're help is really appreciated! I think I will go with Futurlec to get the backordered parts we need.

If there are no objections with the costs mentioned above replaceing the backordered parts in the BOM (see 1st post) then I will make the appropriate changes, get out the payment PM's and start this ball-a-rollin tomorrow. (Been a hectic day at work today,... already late)

Thanks again to all who sounded off for the help.

Leon

[budude]

Sounds good! - thanks so much for organizing this - I'm sure it's a lot of work!

Brian

[Thomo]

Hi Guys,

Unfortunately Futurlec are out-of-stock of the optos....bummer..

However, I have good news.
I notice on the datasheet for the Mouser opto, that a special feature of these Vishay chips are that they are end-stackable!
That is, 4 single optos adjacent to each other is the same as a quad opto.
I have attached an extract from the datasheet...

The electrical characteristics are the same for the single K817P and the quad K847PH.

Mouser currently shows qty 4490 ready for immediate shipping.
We currently have a shortfall of qty 30 quad optos, which means we would need qty 120 single optos.
Mouser price breaks for K817P at 100+ is USD$0.19 ea (or USD$0.76 for equivalent quad)

I am more than happy for Leon to order qty 4 K817P (Mouser 782-K817P) for each kit of my order as a substitute for the quad opto.

I am also happy to get the RJ45's from Futurlec or any other source.

Cheers for now,
Thomo

[LabRat]

Hi Guys,

However, I have good news.
I notice on the datasheet for the Mouser opto, that a special feature of these Vishay chips are that they are end-stackable!
That is, 4 single optos adjacent to each other is the same as a quad opto.
I have attached an extract from the datasheet...


Thomo, an excellent observation!! I am like minded and would agree to 4 K817P's in place of the K847P in my order. It might be a tiny bit more time consuming, but it means I can easily make single, double, or triple channel SSR units. [too late to order more.. isn't it.. :rolleyes:]

[WWNF911]

Guys,
I just want to appologize and try to put this event back on track . It seems that my 1st time GB organizing skills are showing. I have been trying very hard to make sure that the group buy rules have been followed. We had been good on rule #8. However, in between when I checked stock, and when everyone had signed up, the stock number had changed and unfortunately, the back order date was not until October.

In my haste to try to find a solution to our dilema, I have forgotten that to make "any" substitutions etc to the BOM is in violation of rule#9.

I have sent a PM to Brian and copied Wayne (as he has been following this thread) and have asked for advise as to how to proceed. My intention was to help. I will wait for an answer and will follow what is suggested.
I'm sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused.

Leon

[LabRat]

No worries. We will await the "final say" though I suspect that the intent of the rules was to prevent un-announced substitutions after the closure (and payment) of the buy. [but that's just my opion and I'm not one of TPTB (the Powers that Be).

I'm sure it will all work out, and hope you continue to enjoy your "trial by fire" ;)

[Thomo]

Oops. :oops: I forgot about that rule too!

Your group buy has turned out to be quite popular, Leon, with 150 kits you're saving us around 44% !!
Your first group buy and you're doing it just for us DIY punters. Great stuff!
Although it's turning out to be a bit of a headache for you.

It would be a shame if we had to cancel.

Anyway, my thanks to you whether we cancel or go ahead.
I guess we wait and see.

Cheers for now,
Thomo

[WWNF911]

No worries guys.
Everything turned out great and we are back on track. We can get our parts from a seperate source. (the cost may be more and will boost the shipping charges a bit but we can still do it) That means that even though the part number will change, we still are ending up with the same type of part. We do however need to stick to the BOM. That means unfortunately we can't change out the opto for the stackable kind. I'm gonna work on finding sources for the parts we need and will send out payment PM's soon.
It would be helpful if everyone would prepare for that moment now as the parts can only be ordered once all payments have been received. Please keep in mind that this PM is only the 1st. What that means is you'll receive a second PM later on for the paypal fees/ shipping charges.
Thanks to all for your patience, help and cooperation.

Leon

[WWNF911]

Ok guys we have a plan in place and the payment PM's will be going out.
The end cost per unit went up a penny. ($5.25) but unfortunately we will have more shipping to endure due to having to deal with more than one source and that puts a slight damper on the celebration. I'll keep you posted.

Leon

[budude]

An entire PENNY?? - I'm OUTRAGED! :evil:

j/k - thanks Leon!

Reminds me of a Monty Python sketch where the financial guy (Michael Palin) is discussing the multi-billion dollar finances of the company and it turns out he has embezzled an "entire" penny... too funny...

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

...searches under sofa cushions for two quarters....

Keith

[WWNF911]

All payments are in!!!

Unfortunately I went to start the ordering process and Paypal has decided to put a hold on things until a verification process has been completed. I will keep everyone updated.

Leon

[LabRat]

All payments are in!!!

Unfortunately I went to start the ordering process and Paypal has decided to put a hold on things until a verification process has been completed. I will keep everyone updated.

Leon

Uh oh... haven't heard good things about PayPal and freezing accounts etc. Hopefully this won't stall too long. :(

[WWNF911]

All parts on order!

We have some back-ordered parts. The worst lead time is 8/11/09 but it has a disclaimer that it is approx. We will see...

Leon

[WWNF911]

Many thanks to joneslights for the suggestion. Arrow had stock in the optos and the order has arrived. After a quick check, all present and accounted for. :)

[WWNF911]

Quick update just to let all know whats going on. Have been patiently waiting for some backorder items to come available. Just got a call from Mouser today. They let me know that instead of fulfilling they backorder for the MOSFETs they informed me that this part is no longer available/obsolete (something that they did not show when I placed the order Instead the order showed 300 some parts in stick and the rest to be able to ship in 10 days.
They did however offer an alternate part. I have post the question to see if the alternate part would be sufficient.
I will of course keep all updated as to the outcome.
Leon

[eswets]

As long as I got time to build and test them before Halloween I can be patient. I am saving a lot of money on this and want to thank you for organizing this. But it is hard to wait!
Thanks
Eric

[WWNF911]

UPDATE:
As you may recall in my last post, Mouser had contacted me about some bad news.
Lets hold that thought...
Back before I started this group buy thread I posted my intentions in another thread that was basically an interest thread. When I was ready to start I had a couple of hurdles that needed to be dealt with. Some parts in the original BOM were listed as obsolete (Something it seems I've been dealing with a lot on this particular project :rolleyes: ) and others simply were not in stock.
In an effort to get around this, I posted the question and asked for help in finding a suitable replacements. The original MOSFET part number 511-STF20NF06 was replaced at that time with the one listed in post number one of this thread. Part number 512-HUF75309P. Everything was progressing ok and mouser said that X number were in stock and avaiable to ship and X number would be available to ship in 10 days. No big deal right? Then, the voicemail that I mentioned in my last post.
Anyway, I have been in contact with our forum experts as well as the board designer not to mention Mouser. I have some good news, I have some better news and then unfortunately I have some rather bad news.
The good news is, although the replacement MOSFET is no longer avail as per Mouser, Now according to Mouser the original MOSFET called out in the Wiki is available. The better news, Although it wasn't understood at the time the replacement didn't have isolated tabs like the original which "may" have resulted in some loss of magic smoke. Since the original MOSFET called out in the wiki is now available according to Mouser, I think we all can breathe a sigh of relief.
Now the bad news, the original MOSFET part is more than double the cost of the one noted in post number one of this thread (BOM) $.66 each vs $.31 each. Take this value and times it by 4 per kit and unfortunately it brings the cost per kit up $1.40.
I appologize in advance for any inconvenience this may cause and hope all parties will be ok with moving forward. It is my intension to ask for the difference when the shipping/ paypal notices go out.

[DeanCollins]

No problems from my end! Just let me know the difference and I will send it over. Once again thanks for organizing this, it really does help everyone involved.

Cheers,
Dean

[LabRat]

Talk about your "Trial by Fire"... ;)

No problem here either (though I'm only in for 6 units).

Thanks again for all the effort and work you are putting into this. I've been getting my design for my home etch PCB ready, and I'm looking forward to seeing these running.

[budude]

Well Leon - I guess this is why you're being paid the big bucks for this job!! - - uh - oh - wait...

No problem at all - it's still way cheaper then going alone and many of would have run into the same dilemma when we went to go order from Mouser also. At least this way we're all in the same boat and hopefully with the best advice!

Thanks!!

[Thomo]

No problems with me either, Leon.

Thanks for persisting!!

[WWNF911]

All,

The last of the parts deliveries have arrived. I will inventory later. (still working) :rolleyes:

Leon

[WWNF911]

http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music007.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Gloom despair and agony on me
deep dark depression excessive misery
http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music029.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck at all...
gloom despair and agony on me. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-music025.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)

"That won't DATE me"

Checked the order last night from Digikey (RJ45 connectors) .... They sent the wrong part. http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-basic/slaphead.gif (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)
Correct parts are now on their way. :) The inventory/sort continues.

Leon

[joneslights]

Keep at it, don't lose hope. I don't need the RJ45s... can you send my kits?....




Just kidding of course....

[WWNF911]

All,

Just wanted to ask who if anybody would like me to buy insurance for their shipment? If so please let me know. I will include the amount in the next PM (shipping/PP fees)

Thanks
(won't be long now)

Leon

[omzig]

No insurance for me Leon. Thanks.

[budude]

None for me - thanks!

Brian

[joneslights]

no for me

[DeanCollins]

nope dont need insurance here

[Thomo]

No insurance for me either, thanks Leon.

Cheers for now,
Thomo

[LabRat]

Given that my last parcel went AWOL, I'd like to know how much the insurance would cost. Can you quote me with & without in the PM?

Thank you for all of your efforts.

[mheuer]

No insurance for me.

Thanks.

[jasonhuff]

None for me.

Thank You, Jason

[WWNF911]

Given that my last parcel went AWOL, I'd like to know how much the insurance would cost. Can you quote me with & without in the PM?

Thank you for all of your efforts.

I just had this happen to me as well. If it were not for the planning ahead of the CoOp leader, I would've been out my purchase. (One of the reasons why I'm asking.) Some have much to lose. I'd be happy to quote for anyone prior to shipping. I would like to ship this week though so let me know soon. It should however be noted that my shipment was a flat rate box. (small) It had somehow gotten wet which led to its failure. Although I can't be certain, I think that being wet and put with all the other flat rate boxes, LARGE, Medium, and small alike. (Some flat rate shipments can be quite heavy) caused the ends to open and spill out the contents.
Ever wonder why most of the small flat rate boxes are crushed? :rolleyes:
That being said, I'm prepared to send all out without the use of flat rate boxes. If it turns out that the price is cheaper, I will of course ask first prior to shipping.

Thanks

Leon

[lizard050]

none for me

[Wayne J]

Although I can't be certain, I think that being wet and put with all the other flat rate boxes, LARGE, Medium, and small alike. (Some flat rate shipments can be quite heavy) caused the ends to open and spill out the contents.

Thanks

Leon

To help with that issue, I use these (http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13354&productId=11695&langId=-1&WT.ac=11695) to put shipments in before sealing them in a flat rate box. The Tyvex is like fabric (so it folds up nice to fit in a small box) and keeps the contents contained and dry.

[TimW]

No insurance for me

Thanks
Tim

[snething]

I will pass on the insurance also

Scot

[WWNF911]

To help with that issue, I use these (http://shop.usps.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10152&storeId=10001&categoryId=13354&productId=11695&langId=-1&WT.ac=11695) to put shipments in before sealing them in a flat rate box. The Tyvex is like fabric (so it folds up nice to fit in a small box) and keeps the contents contained and dry.

Thanks for the suggestion Wayne. I think I should've been more descriptive though. :oops: In this case the box end failed and although the contents would've remained dry, the end result would've remained the same. The empty, obviously wet at some time looking, crushed box arrived at my door step sealed inside a bag, specifically prepared by the USPS for just the occassion, saying that although they go to great lengths to ensure this doesn't happen, sometimes it happens. :|

[budude]

I'm pretty sure I know which COOP you are referring to that I was also part of ('wireless' perhaps? :rolleyes:) and I think the problem there was that the ends were not taped up AND a bit of disgruntled postal worker or something (no offense to any USPS folks out there!). I would be more than willing to kick in a bit more to get the Tyvek envelopes though - those things are pretty darn tough!

[WWNF911]

I'm pretty sure I know which COOP you are referring to that I was also part of ('wireless' perhaps? :rolleyes:) and I think the problem there was that the ends were not taped up AND a bit of disgruntled postal worker or something (no offense to any USPS folks out there!). I would be more than willing to kick in a bit more to get the Tyvek envelopes though - those things are pretty darn tough!

I would have to dis-agree. I think that the box becomes paper mache when wet and when amoungst the other Heavy weight flat rate boxes, it stood no chance. (Just my thoughts on what I think happened) That being said, I will look into the envelopes for you and get your approval before adding. :)

[budude]

Mine didn't get wet at all actually - it came with one end flap out yet somehow made it with everything still inside. Just saying - a bit of tape on either end would have prevented that - at least in my case. If it had been parts and not PCBs - forgetta 'bout it - there wouldn't be anything left...

[WWNF911]

All,
The sort has been done, I have visited the USPS, and have figures to start sending out the final PM's. (Shipping/Paypal Fees) This PM will also include the MOSFET offest that I posted about Here (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showpost.php?p=72069&postcount=60).
My work has been crazy lately. I want to appologize for that. If I wasn't driving 6 hours plus work and overtime each day I think I could've had these out by now.
I'm off to sunny Winnemucca AGAIN! (Have to work tonight at 9:30 PM following my 3 hour drive). Yes I'm sure you've heard of it. It's where men are men and sheep are nervous. I suppose I shouldn't be so harsh. Things for them are looking up lately. I hear they're getting a new stop light to replace the sign. The festival to kick off the celebration should be a HOOT!

Leon

PS - While doing my research it appears as though some may save on shipping by my using a flat rate box. I am looking into making this happen for you to try to save some money.

[WWNF911]

All Shipping/PP fees PM's have been sent out. If you didn't receive one please let me know by PM right away.

Leon

[budude]

Got a package today from someone named .... Leon?.... from Nevada...?

Woohoo - everything present and accounted for - great job Leon! Now I can start playing with my Flood Strips!

Thanks!
Brian

[WWNF911]

Cool !! :cool:

[eswets]

Got mine yesterday, thanks a lot. Best things come to those who wait! Starting them tonight.

[LabRat]

Got mine yesterday, thanks a lot. Best things come to those who wait! Starting them tonight.

So... those of us still waiting... uhmm... this is a good thing?


(for the humour impaired --> ;) )

[eswets]

LR I can smell the smoke from the solder can you? Ha Ha. I had to rub it in.

[LabRat]

LR I can smell the smoke from the solder can you? Ha Ha. I had to rub it in.

Uhmm.. shouldn't you be venting that to the outside? Clearly you've been doing it too much and should send those boards out to be done by someone with a steadier hand... I'll PM you my address... ;)

[WWNF911]

Still have a couple who haven't paid/ responded to their shipping/ paypal PM yet. I know how important it is to get your products and how low on time we are getting. All shipments were completed yesterday in good faith. Thanks for being such a great/ patient group. Please keep reporting in as you get yours as I am anxiously awaiting to hear that everything was delivered etc.

Leon

[lizard050]

got my package

[jasonhuff]

woot, got my package in today.

[WWNF911]

Cool !! :cool:

[mheuer]

Thanks, got my parts a few days ago, and everything is now assembled and accounted for. :D

Now I just have to get a Ren24LV, or similar controller to test them. :)

[WWNF911]

Anyone else already received their package and are just waiting until they are all BUILT!!!!! :shock:

LOL

Greg?... Keith?...

Leon

PS: I expect to wait a bit more for international.

[LabRat]

sigh....





Just keep rubbing it in guys ('n gals)...

[budude]

sigh....
Just keep rubbing it in guys ('n gals)...

MAN! My LED Flood Strips just look great with YOUR DCSSR and the parts from this CoOp!!! uh... oh.... sorry....

[LabRat]

*$&@#$(&@($..... and your little dog too!!!


;)

[eswets]

LabRat, still no goods yet, Sorry to hear. Or you can be in my boat have lots of parts for lots of boards, and have them staring at you and no time to build them. Hopefully next week I will have time.

[WWNF911]

LabRat, still no goods yet, Sorry to hear. Or you can be in my boat have lots of parts for lots of boards, and have them staring at you and no time to build them. Hopefully next week I will have time.

You know,... he did offer to build them for you... Of course I don't know when you'd get em back. ;)

Leon

[DeanCollins]

I am still waiting...but I have 6 ledtrix panels and 5 portafloods to solder so I am in no rush...lol

[LabRat]

I'm waiting to see the "Down Unders" to get them, as mine should arrive a couple of days later. ;)

[DeanCollins]

I'm waiting to see the "Down Unders" to get them, as mine should arrive a couple of days later. ;)

My package arrived safe and sound today, now I just need to grab some boards from wjohn...in hindsight I should have ordered them earlier...lol

Cheers Leon for all your hard work, it is much appreciated!

[WWNF911]

Does anyone else find it troubling that I can ship to Australia faster than Canada?

Sorry LabRat. :confused:

[LabRat]

Yes... all the Canadians find this troubling!!

(It's actually good news.. should get mine later today or tomorrow (if history is to repeat itself))

[budude]

Well - - being that you're all encased in ice up there and use sled dogs and such to get things moved around, I'd say the amount of time is about right? No? :rolleyes:

[LabRat]

Hey.. the ice pack has been solid for the last three weeks. It's not like I was trying to get stuff delivered in the summer!?? Pssshhh... do you think I'm nuts?

Have to go and put some more anti-freeze on the mailbox now.




Well - - being that you're all encased in ice up there and use sled dogs and such to get things moved around, I'd say the amount of time is about right? No? :rolleyes:

[LabRat]

Wooo hoooo! They have arrived!!


Thank you!!

[TimW]

I have a parcel at home as well. Thanks Leon.

[Thomo]

That leaves just me to go.....:(
I'm not sure, but I think I might be the furthest from Leon too!
It is the weekend though, so hopefully it will arrive soon! :)

Cheers

[WWNF911]

Darn!!!
I was hoping Thomas was so excited and busy assembling that he forgot to let us know. :(

Leon

[Thomo]

Hi Leon,

Got my package today - lucky last!
Thankyou ever so much for doing this group buy.
Even with the exchange rate and extra postage, you have saved me a bucket load of cash! (which is already spent on a transmitter btw)

And yes I have been busy... very busy... and now thanks to your package, even busier...
This hobby is insane!!

I hope I can return the favour one day.

Cheers for now, :D
Thomo

[WWNF911]

Thanks Thomo!

I was so relieved to hear you package finally arrived. (Whew!)

To all,
your thankyous have not gone unheard. I really did appreciate them and have been waiting until all was good before saying a huge Your Welcome!!! in response. Thanks for being a great, patient,and cooperative bunch.

I have to admit, although the MOSFET thing may have hurt, I really wish I had ordered those for mine. They not only look cool but in the end are a safer/ better way to go. Thanks to WJohn for helping in that regard.

In the end although I had looked into saving some more with flat rate shipping, I found out that flat rate shipping to Australia,... NOT such a good deal. ($44) Additionally, as I had feared,... the only flat rate box I did send, suffered damage. (my offer still stands, btw)

I also have to admit,... when I first started the interest thread, I was shocked to hear that the most needed project involved the DCSSR's. I think I understand now that several are using them in conjunction with LED flood strips. These sound really cool and I personally can't wait to hear about how it goes. Hopefully some will post some pics or videos as well.

Thanks again to all.

Leon

[WWNF911]

Just wanted to point out that there has been question that has pointed out a new version of the DCSSR PCB. One group buy member has noted that he bought PCB's and has a version 1.1. Currently, the Wiki and the BOM show version 1.0. For those of you who have the version 1.1, it looks like the Wiki might need to be updated. Can someone verify whether or not the BOM needs to be updated to reflect a need for 2 .1uf caps versus the amount of 1 needed as posted in the BOM? (Sorry, I currently dont have any PCB's to check)

Thanks

Leon

PS - I will PM Wjohn for clarification as well.

[lizard050]

just got my pcbs and they do indead call for 2 .1uf caps. They are vs 1.1.

[LabRat]

Being discussed in:
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8044

[WWNF911]

Well John is on Holiday but graciously responded:

"The current board is vers 1.1. The change was minor (fliped the regulator position). The datasheet suggests a min of one cap to stop the regulator oscilating under certain conditions. Being safe, you can have one either side if fitting one' I'd place it on the Output pin side I am away on vacation with limited acess so I can't update the Wiki until next week."

My thanks to Wjohn!!!