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brichi
01-01-2018, 08:30 PM
Hey guys, I searched and see a lot of frames built for guys that do P10 panels into a big screen.

I want to do a 80"x60" (rough estimate, give or take a few inches), a quick measurement I figured I need 56 panels, 7 panels wide by 8 tall. Anyway, I bought all the panels and the boscoyostudio mounts to get it all together but whats the safest,lightest way to make a frame that I can put over a 2nd story bedroom window?

I got the mounts that have all the holes along the out side to build a frame with maybe 1x4 or 1x3 strips? can decide the best rout to go along with having to protect it from rain which I figured I would wrap it in clear vinyl or something. was debating putting heavy duty hook eyes in the beams above the windows and hooks on the 1x3's attache to the panel and then hanging the full screen kind of like a picture on a wall

thanks for any info!!

covewi
01-02-2018, 03:25 PM
I built a 30 panel P10 matrix and it gets heavy very quickly. I used 1X3 to build the frame, Coro as a back panel and heavy clear vinyl for the front - to help keep the weight down.

Cant imagine how heavy yours will be especially if you have to lift it much off the ground to the windows.

rstehle
01-02-2018, 03:33 PM
Weight can easily become an issue when building a matrix out of panels. Consider carefully how big you want it based on how you can raise it in to place and support it.

brichi
01-02-2018, 03:51 PM
39021

i was thinking heavy duty hook and eye system on each top corner of the windows as you can see by the red circles in the pic

lostbucket
01-02-2018, 05:33 PM
How much does each P10 with a frame weigh?? Been thinking about doing a smaller setup of them for a message scroller about the current amount of donations received and the charity it's going to and put it above the donation box.

rstehle
01-02-2018, 06:00 PM
Here (https://www.boscoyostudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=122&zenid=42s7iapldo2588tjer5gnu1lj7) is another product you may want to consider (if you haven't seen it yet). This material comes in a 4' x 8' sheet, with holes cut out so you can still see thru it, and holes punched to accept 12mm Pixels. This would be much lighter than a large matrix of panels and give a similar look (though not as dense), but you could still see out of your window.

rdj6107
01-02-2018, 07:06 PM
Here (https://www.boscoyostudio.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=2_30&products_id=122&zenid=42s7iapldo2588tjer5gnu1lj7) is another product you may want to consider (if you haven't seen it yet). This material comes in a 4' x 8' sheet, with holes cut out so you can still see thru it, and holes punched to accept 12mm Pixels. This would be much lighter than a large matrix of panels and give a similar look (though not as dense), but you could still see out of your window.

i think price wise, it's not a huge difference the matrix panel over the p10. but setup wise the matrix panel will be easier. its alot of pixel pushing but i think this is route i am going this year. wish my fingers luck.

brichi
01-02-2018, 07:07 PM
How much does each P10 with a frame weigh?? Been thinking about doing a smaller setup of them for a message scroller about the current amount of donations received and the charity it's going to and put it above the donation box.

not sure yet, the panels are so light, it will probably weigh near 15-20 pounds with 40-50 panels in it, all depends on the material you use to build the frame

brichi
01-02-2018, 07:08 PM
i think price wise, it's not a huge difference the matrix panel over the p10. but setup wise the matrix panel will be easier. its alot of pixel pushing but i think this is route i am going this year. wish my fingers luck.


thank you, I use the nets now for the Tune To signs but I want something more that I can do video on which the P10 panels seem to display much better being the pixels are much closer together

rstehle
01-02-2018, 08:26 PM
not sure yet, the panels are so light, it will probably weigh near 15-20 pounds with 40-50 panels in it, all depends on the material you use to build the frame

IMO you are WAY underestimating the weight. Don't forget, you have the panels, the supports, the power supply, the cables, the enclosure.................

brichi
01-02-2018, 09:09 PM
yeah, now that I sat and looked at it all it may be closer to 40 pounds, each panel is about 1/4lb so 50 panels is 25 pounds, maybe another 5 pounds in power supply, wires etc... and a few more pounds in the materials to build the frame

covewi
01-02-2018, 09:29 PM
My 30 panel matrix has to weight at least 45 lbs.
The red circles for the hooks would have to be screwed into the window headers to ensure a solid anchor.
The other questions is how would you get that up there. Certainly not using a ladder with something that size and weight.
P10's are the only way to go for the project you want to build.
Video will look fantastic and the color range and brightness cant be beat.

brichi
01-02-2018, 09:32 PM
yeah I definitely need to hit headers, I may have a contractor come by once it warms up and do it for me so I know its in good and then I will have to figure out how I get this on the window each year, was thinking 2 guys, 2 ladders, climb up and hook on like a picture

covewi
01-02-2018, 09:47 PM
Your braver than I am. But something that size will be impressive.
You might consider aluminum products like these
https://m.alibaba.com/product/60721771557/6063-mill-finish-Aluminum-Extrusion-Profiles.html?spm=a2706.8291533.0.0.76d36aaaFu5Ga5
which are built for P10 displays. But someone on the forum - JCook I think - had problems with the product arriving damaged.
These would be nice because they are so much light than wood.

brichi
01-02-2018, 09:51 PM
I like those, im assuming the grooves are cut to fit in the hardware like boscoyostudios p10 pieces that we use to connect panels together?

covewi
01-02-2018, 10:18 PM
Yes and the small groove would be for the plexiglass. I really want to give them a try.

brichi
01-02-2018, 10:19 PM
hmmmmmm I may order some, I like this idea, then I just need 2 long wood supports on both side in back to really support the weights, I doubt I can hang this by the aluminum

brichi
01-02-2018, 11:28 PM
plus I would clear vinyl wrap the front vs heavy plexiglass

brichi
01-11-2018, 12:17 AM
wound up being 54 panels, and 6 wide by 9 tall, I love the way this looks. Going to run sume 1x3's up the back for support and then wrap it in 3M protector. cant wait for the warmer weather so I can start to plan the mounting part

here are 2 videos I shot quick

https://youtu.be/6rQnLUIDsZs
https://youtu.be/mTV4Xw1EVKQ

covewi
01-11-2018, 10:09 AM
Awesome - plain awesome.

EdK
01-11-2018, 07:29 PM
Have you considered a large, flat screen TV instead of the P10 panels? Ok, a weak attempt at some humor today.

brichi
01-11-2018, 07:39 PM
Have you considered a large, flat screen TV instead of the P10 panels? Ok, a weak attempt at some humor today.

Lol. The screen came out insane. I love it.