Any have a LOR2 to Vixen converter?

[aERonAUtical96]

Has anyone done any work in this area? I'm curious. I just wrote an app to do some basic conversions and would like to verify the results, but don't have LOR2.

Edit

Refering to sequences that is :)

[aERonAUtical96]

If anyone is interested, I've created a small little app that converts LORv2 (SR2) files to vixen files(as best as I can). Since I don't have LOR, I'm using visual inspection for testing. I've been able to convert a dozen or so LOR (.lms) files and bring them up in vixen.

While the conversion may not be exactly perfect, I think it is fairly close. I've use it to create the new .vix file and copy the rows into my own sequence. There are 2 issues I'm working on and they include LOR twinkle to Vixen twinkle and it appears LOR has the ability to break up their timing segments into non linear values (ie 0,62,89,97,200... vs 0,5,10,15). I'm trying to come up w/ a way to best handle this.

I'm not sure where I can post the file, so if there is enough interest, I'll find a place to put it (ie putfile, etc). It is written in Java (sorry, I work in a Java shop) so you will need JRE 1.5 or 1.6 to run it.

[rlilly]

Why not convert the Carson Williams LOR WIW to Vixen?

You might get a lot more input!

[aERonAUtical96]

Did a quick search for the files, couldn't find them. I do however have the holdman files and was able to convert those. For example...

[Macrosill]

That is pretty cool aero! You wrote a script that will convert LOR sequence files to the Vixen format, that is great. I just looked at the Holdman sequence and it appears to be all there. Only thing missing is the preview.

[aERonAUtical96]

Baby steps :) Haven't tried tackling the preview yet.

Here is the app for anyone interested. As I said before, it is a java app, so JRE 1.5 or newer is required. To run the app, simply extract the zip file contents into a directory. You should get a single jar file plus a lib directory w/12 additional jar files. Double click on the LOR2VIX.jar file. This should launch the app. It provides 2 input text fields, one for a LOR input file and an output .vix file. If for some reason doubleclicking will not run the app, open up a command prompt and cd to the directory. Execute the command:

java -jar LOR2VIX.jar

Again, this will only convert LOR2 files (xml based files). The files are best when the LOR2 timing is constant. You can check the timing of the LOR2 file if you open it up and look for 'timings'. You'll see the timing definition elements. If they aren't constant, then all bets are off (still working on that).

Don't hesitate to let me know if you have problems especially if this link doesn't work.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=67b820b16a86efd2d2db6fb9a8902bda

[zaker]

so if I see startCentisecond="1170" endCentisecond="1190" type lines, this looks to be the non-constant timing, correct?

I played with it, converted a few LOR2 files, and got interesting timings, but it did convert.

zaker

[mrpackethead]

Just for the crazys, i'm working on a quicktime movie --> vixen converter.. And almost there.. Why..

So, i can create quicktime movies in Quartz composer ( an animator thing ), to make sound modulated animations for my pixel grid.. Its and ugly cludge, but way faster than programming by hand.

Quartz produces quicktime movie.. Export movie as a set of Png images.. convert and downsize pngs --> type P3 PPM files with imagemagick. Import rgb values from ppms with perl script.. rewrtite to 480 channel files.. convert decimal values to base64, and merge channel files and produce xml..

Wahoo.

[aERonAUtical96]

Actually, what I'm referring to is the timings element of the xml. It will look something like this:

<timings>
<timing centisecond="0"/>
<timing centisecond="5"/>
<timing centisecond="10"/>
<timing centisecond="15"/>
<timing centisecond="20"/>
<timing centisecond="25"/>
<timing centisecond="30"/>

This converts easily over to vixen as 5 centiseconds corresponds to 50 milliseconds in vixen, which basically equates to 20 grids / second.

The problem that I see is like the following:

<timings>
<timing centisecond="0"/>
<timing centisecond="67"/>
<timing centisecond="79"/>
<timing centisecond="92"/>
<timing centisecond="105"/>
<timing centisecond="118"/>
<timing centisecond="130"/>
<timing centisecond="143"/>

As you can see there is no period rythm. I'm thinking about taking the total time and divide it by the number of timing elements w/in the timings element (xml talk). That should give a nice general timing, and while not perfect, would give someone a start.

What type of timings are you seeing? I've seen a couple of people use 2 centisecond (20 millisecond) values.

[zaker]

I did find that section, they start out evenly timed, then it starts in random intervals

<timing centisecond="165"/>
<timing centisecond="170"/>
<timing centisecond="172"/>
<timing centisecond="175"/>
<timing centisecond="180"/>
<timing centisecond="185"/>
<timing centisecond="190"/>
<timing centisecond="195"/>

So this is what is apparently throwing a wrench in the works.

Here is a stupid thought. In Vixen you can adjust the event period, and Vixen will compress/span the periods if you change them in a sequence.

Could you convert it to Vixen with a 1 centisecond (10 ms) interval, and then the user can set their event period in Vixen. When Vixen compresses the time intervals, it's going to be pretty dang close. A little tweaking here and there....

zaker

[aERonAUtical96]

Dang... didn't think about. Actually, didn't realize that you could change the sequence timing in vixen (Sequence > Settings > Event period lenght (ms) in case someone wants to know).

Let me change it and see what I get. A little worried about memory usage due to the total number of grid elements that it will now have to deal with.

[aERonAUtical96]

Ok, updated converter to create the sequences at 10ms. Not sure why I didn't do this in the first place. This should be able to convert any LOR timing (at least I hope anyways). I also added shimmer support. Still working on twinkle.

Link again: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=67b820b16a86efd2d2db6fb9a8902bda

Get the newer file.

I guess I should have added that you can then let vixen change the Event period value from 10 ms to anything you want. Vixen's algorithm will make the appropriate adjustments.

Let me know if anyone has problems.

Thanks,

[zaker]

Converted 5 sequences, watched each carefully and they seemed good!

Only error on a few was twinkle not supported, but converted fine, set Vixen timing to 50ms, timing looked good with music.

Now if I could convert the LOR1 files I have. There doesn't see to be a LOR2 demo availalble, I was hoping to open a 1 file and save it as a 2.

zaker

[aERonAUtical96]

I tried to upgrade my "demo" version, but it recognized it as such. The only way in which we can do LOR1 files is for someone w/ version 2 to convert them for us.

[mrpackethead]

I tried to upgrade my "demo" version, but it recognized it as such. The only way in which we can do LOR1 files is for someone w/ version 2 to convert them for us.

Hi Aero,

You must have a handle on the constructs of the .vix files.. I'm close but close is'nt close enough...

I can sucessfull create a 1channel sequence ok.. Im converting my data through to base64, and in a one channel sequence everything matches..

when i Try to create a two or more channel sequence, everything goes to the pack.. It seems that there is soem kind of padding between the channels in teh <eventvalues>, but i cant spot any pattern..

Any clues much apprecaited.

[aERonAUtical96]

Put out another version. This one contains a couple of small UI bug fixes and includes both shimmer and lor twinkle support.

[joneslights]

One Word... SWEET!

[dhavard]

Ok, I tried to convert a .lms file and got this error "Error on line 1 of document file:/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/alliwant.lms: Content is not allowed in prolog.

What am I doing wrong?

[dhavard]

ah..nevermind...was trying to convert a lor1 seq...dang...was hoping to get this one converted.

[aERonAUtical96]

More than likely that is a LOR version 1 file. If you try to open up the file and don't see normal text, then that is the problem. I can't convert those type of files due to a proprietary format.

Look for something like the following text on the first line

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" standalone="no"?>

If that isn't there, the it's an older version.

[zaker]

Ok, I tried to convert a .lms file and got this error "Error on line 1 of document file:/C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/alliwant.lms: Content is not allowed in prolog.

What am I doing wrong?

You are trying to convert a LOR1 file. This will only convert a LOR2 file, which is basically an XML file. Open the file with notepad, if you can read it, it is XML and will convert. If it looks like machine code, it is LOR1 and won't convert.

On a good note, I emailed Light-O-Rama and asked about a LOR2 demo. I was told they are releasing one next week. I'm hoping we can open a LOR1 file, save as a LOR2 file, and convert away!!!

[dhavard]

On a good note, I emailed Light-O-Rama and asked about a LOR2 demo. I was told they are releasing one next week. I'm hoping we can open a LOR1 file, save as a LOR2 file, and convert away!!!

That would be great! Until then I will have to see if there is an LOR2 version of this seq out there :). Thanks for the help guys!

[ErnieHorning]

Wow, pretty cool! Now I have all of Holdman’s sequences, all 191 channels. I doubt that I can use any of it, but its pretty neat seeing how he did it.

aERonAUtical96 the script works great; even the preview! Great Job!:D

[joneslights]

Wow, pretty cool! Now I have all of Holdman’s sequences, all 191 channels. I doubt that I can use any of it, but its pretty neat seeing how he did it.

aERonAUtical96 the script works great; even the preview! Great Job!:D

Where did you get Holdman's sequences?

[aERonAUtical96]

http://www.holdman.com/christmas/sequences/

[joneslights]

http://www.holdman.com/christmas/sequences/

Duh! I should have went to the source....... Thank You!

[aERonAUtical96]

Uploaded another updated version of the converter.

Fixes a problem w/ me not properly closing out the converted vixen file. If you attempted to open the file in vixen at the same time as the converter app is open, it will cause vixen to throw an error.

Added LOR animation sequence (.las) to the file chooser drop down filter list. Also noticed that the extension wasn't being converted from .xxx to .vix on any files other than .lms.

[joneslights]

Uploaded another updated version of the converter.

Fixes a problem w/ me not properly closing out the converted vixen file. If you attempted to open the file in vixen at the same time as the converter app is open, it will cause vixen to throw an error.

Added LOR animation sequence (.las) to the file chooser drop down filter list. Also noticed that the extension wasn't being converted from .xxx to .vix on any files other than .lms.


Tried running new version... here is what I got. Is it me or something else?

Error on line 1 of document file:/C:/Users/Public/Documents/Light-O-Rama/Sequences/Reflections_of_Earth-show.lms: Content is not allowed in prolog.

Stack Trace:
org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:50 1)
org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:84 7)
org.jdom.input.SAXBuilder.build(SAXBuilder.java:82 6)
lor2vix.Convert.convert(Convert.java:59)
lor2vix.LOR2VIXView.convertToVixen(LOR2VIXView.jav a:275)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.noProxy ActionPerformed(ApplicationAction.java:662)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.actionP erformed(ApplicationAction.java:698)
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unk nown Source)
javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseRe leased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent( Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(U nknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unkno wn Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilter s(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(U nknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarch y(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

[aERonAUtical96]

More than likely, that file isn't a LORv2 file. Try to open the file up in a text editor (wordpad, notepad,etc) and see if you see text vs garbage.

[joneslights]

More than likely, that file isn't a LORv2 file. Try to open the file up in a text editor (wordpad, notepad,etc) and see if you see text vs garbage.


Bingo! I opened it in LOR2, save as: (renamed so I did not lose original) and retried. Worked fine!

[joneslights]

Ok, for some reason it will not convert this file. My system hangs, tried it with three computers (2 running vista one running XP)

You'll need to change extension to lms instead of txt (forum will not accept lms)

Greg

[kenl92]

i was able to convert it for you even though the file was being converted for me here you go!
can you please email me the song you used as well

[joneslights]

i was able to convert it for you even though the file was being converted for me here you go!
can you please email me the song you used as well

Odd... well then consider it converted :wink:

You received the other right?

[joneslights]

Here is another error message output. The file is LOR2:

14467

Stack Trace:
lor2vix.Convert.convert(Convert.java:230)
lor2vix.LOR2VIXView.convertToVixen(LOR2VIXView.jav a:275)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.noProxy ActionPerformed(ApplicationAction.java:662)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.actionP erformed(ApplicationAction.java:698)
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unk nown Source)
javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseRe leased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent( Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(U nknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unkno wn Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilter s(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(U nknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarch y(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)

[aERonAUtical96]

It's a runaway process on the first file. Debugging it right now.

The error on the 2nd file is due to an effect that occurs beyond the defined timestamp. I noticed that on a previous file. I will also look into this one. I'm hoping these are isolated files and that you aren't seeing an error on every file :(

[aERonAUtical96]

Ok, fixed the first issue. It's the twinkle algorithm that I have. It was with the 'MiniTree'2 Purp' channel and the twinkle effect on <effect type="twinkle" startCentisecond="510" endCentisecond="514"/>. It was a logic error I had due to the short time period of the effect. I'll have this update out these soon.

Looking at Clint Black sequence now.

[kenl92]

In was able to convert this one as well!
Here it is:

[aERonAUtical96]

Ok, sorry about that guys. I found "issues" w/ the twinkle and shimmer routines w/ indexing. I think I resolved them, but I did it quickly... so :)

Anyways, there is a new version out there with the fixes. Download and try it. Let me know if you still have problems.

The reason why the other folks might have been able to convert w/ no problem is that they may be running an older version of the tool where twinkle/shimmer wasn't supported and those effects are ignored.

Again, sorry for the problems guys. I don't have many LOR sequences to fully test and I'm sure there will be situations where I didn't take into considerations.

Link again...
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=67b820b16a86efd2d2db6fb9a8902bda

[joneslights]

Ok, sorry about that guys. I found "issues" w/ the twinkle and shimmer routines w/ indexing. I think I resolved them, but I did it quickly... so :)

Anyways, there is a new version out there with the fixes. Download and try it. Let me know if you still have problems.

The reason why the other folks might have been able to convert w/ no problem is that they may be running an older version of the tool where twinkle/shimmer wasn't supported and those effects are ignored.

Again, sorry for the problems guys. I don't have many LOR sequences to fully test and I'm sure there will be situations where I didn't take into considerations.

Link again...
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=67b820b16a86efd2d2db6fb9a8902bda

I think you are doing a wonderful job! I am just glad to have the converter. I will continue to test.

[joneslights]

Latest version worked with the Clint Black sequence.

[DILA]

found one that won't convert

[joneslights]

found one that won't convert


Here you go, I added one second of time to it.

[DILA]

I uploaded the file is case it showed a bug in LOR2VIX, but thanks for the vix file, you can never have to many sequences to get ideas from.

[aERonAUtical96]

Yeah, I saw that post last night. It's the twinkle routine at the end of a channel that is causing the fit (shimmer might do the same). The quick fix is add a second like Jones did (located in the tracks/track totalCentiseconds field below all of the channel data). I'll fix the issue and put out a new version later this week.

Thanks for finding that.

[joneslights]

The quick fix is add a second like Jones did (located in the tracks/track totalCentiseconds field below all of the channel data).


Or, you could open the file in LOR2 ;). Thank you for all the work you are doing on this.

Greg

[Aurbo99]

http://lightoramasequences.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,42/func,select/id,29/

About 183 Lor1 files looking to be converted to Lor2, then over to .VIX...

Someone have time to do the conversions from Lor1 to Lor2?

[joneslights]

http://lightoramasequences.com/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,42/func,select/id,29/

About 183 Lor1 files looking to be converted to Lor2, then over to .VIX...

Someone have time to do the conversions from Lor1 to Lor2?

I've probably already converted many of those.

Greg

[dgreen]

Any chance I can get you to look at this one?
I can not get it to convert.
It was a LOR1 file so I opened it in LOR2.
Then I saved it under a new name.
I have done this on other sequences and it has worked.
Please let me know what I am doing wrong or what is different.

[joneslights]

Any chance I can get you to look at this one?
I can not get it to convert.
It was a LOR1 file so I opened it in LOR2.
Then I saved it under a new name.
I have done this on other sequences and it has worked.
Please let me know what I am doing wrong or what is different.

Well, I've tried my tricks. I took the extra time out at end of song, added all on at the end of the sequence, converted it into LSP and back to LOR, and changed the timings to .05. Maybe some else could look at it.

Greg

[dgreen]

Thanks for trying.
I got it off LOR sequences .com
I was just trying to save a little time.

[joneslights]

Thanks for trying.
I got it off LOR sequences .com
I was just trying to save a little time.


I search my hard drive(s) I found it already converted (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/dynamics/showentry.php?e=39&catid=19). Enjoy! I have uploaded it to the DIYC file directory.

I must have converted it for someone already.

Greg

[oldcqr]

Once you convert those LOR sequences, upload them to my site (or here) so others can just DL them directly.

http://www.landolights.com/main/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,54/

[dgreen]

Awesome!
thanks for the help!

[Macrosill]

Once you convert those LOR sequences, upload them to my site (or here) so others can just DL them directly.

http://www.landolights.com/main/component/option,com_remository/Itemid,54/

Any chance you could add a channels attribute on the file page. This way someone could try to find a sequence that has a similar channel count. Just a thought.

[joneslights]

With the last few I have tried to convert, I get this error:

null

Stack Trace:
lor2vix.Convert.convert(Convert.java:79)
lor2vix.LOR2VIXView.convertToVixen(LOR2VIXView.jav a:249)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.noProxy ActionPerformed(ApplicationAction.java:662)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.actionP erformed(ApplicationAction.java:698)
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unk nown Source)
javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseRe leased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent( Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(U nknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unkno wn Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilter s(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(U nknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarch y(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)


I have attached the LOR file as well.

[aERonAUtical96]

Man, it's been a few months since I've looked at the code, but I ran this file through the conversion routine and found some remnant code that did nothing that was causing the error. Let me know if this converted properly.

[budude]

Does this translate to Vixen 2.1 compatible sequences or 2.5? - I "think" it's only 2.1 - if so, is there any outlook for 2.5. I realize I could do an upgrade using Vixen but it would be easier to go directly to 2.5 (i.e. I'm lazy...:rolleyes:).

[joneslights]

Man, it's been a few months since I've looked at the code, but I ran this file through the conversion routine and found some remnant code that did nothing that was causing the error. Let me know if this converted properly.

Looks the same in LOR and Vixen. I'd say it converted correctly.

[aERonAUtical96]

This conversion is for 2.1. I haven't touched 2.5 as of yet. Let me take a gander and see how long I think it would take to convert. Sorry, but for now you'll have to do it the long way :) LOR -> VIX 2.1 -> VIX 2.5

[ErnieHorning]

Oh sure, now you’re going to add 2.5. I just converted about 20 of mine last night.:p

[joneslights]

Man, it's been a few months since I've looked at the code, but I ran this file through the conversion routine and found some remnant code that did nothing that was causing the error. Let me know if this converted properly.


Did you upload an updated version?

[Larry Hazeltine]

How long should the conversion from LOR2 to Vixen take? My .lms file is only 177KB so I would expect it to be done in a few seconds. When I run the tool, it just sits there for several minutes and I don';t get an output file. Is there some trick that I'm missing?

[ErnieHorning]

How long should the conversion from LOR2 to Vixen take?It only takes a second or two. It works on most LOR2 files, but not all, at least not yet.

[Larry Hazeltine]

Doesn't seem to be working for me. I've even tried creating brand-new sequences that have just the basic channels assigned. There's still no output from the converter.

[aERonAUtical96]

I have a new version w/ the last fix I had indicated, but haven't uploaded it. I will tomorrow night since I don't have my laptop here that contains the code.

Conversion should be fairly quick. When you click the convert button, does it go grey (desensitized)?

Larry... I'm sending you a PM w/ my email. If you don't mind, please send me the sequence you are having problems with. I will run it through in debug mode and find what the problem is.

[joneslights]

Can you send that LOR file to me? LOR just upgraded and I may be able to do it. THe update fixed the fact that it was encrypting files.

[sdrose65]

Doesn't seem to be working for me. I've even tried creating brand-new sequences that have just the basic channels assigned. There's still no output from the converter.
I'm having the same issue. Convert button is greyed out but conversion never happens. I had a guy at work do the convert from LOR1 to LOR2 for me. I'm unsure of the version he is running but he said it's one that came out in June. Thanks for your hard work on this, it is very much appreciated.

[nofear]

Ok, I'm new to this. I unfortunately started with LOR but now want to make it in vixen. I cannot seem to figure part of this out. I keep getting conversion error: There was an error opening the specified file. It appears the file may be a LOR v1 file.....

So I'm using LOR 2.5.2 and LOR2VIX_RC3

But when I open the file in notepad here is the output:

************************************************** ****************************
* *
* This file was created using the Limited Version of the *
* Light-O-Rama S2 Software Suite. *
* *
************************************************** ****************************
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»s©Àjôú%²\]u...............

Is it because of the limited version of LOR? Thanks for any help

[aERonAUtical96]

It's definately not in the format the conversion program is expecting. The contents look encrypted. If it is, I have no way to know their encryption scheme. You might want to send a PM to joneslight as he has done some conversion from LOR1 to LOR2. His current version of LOR2 might "decrypt" this file.

Does anyone know if LOR changed their format of their file with a latest release of their software? I know this little app converts... and I believe Light Show Pro can perform a conversion. I'm curious if LOR developers decided to encrypt the files to prevent this.

[joneslights]

It's definately not in the format the conversion program is expecting. The contents look encrypted. If it is, I have no way to know their encryption scheme. You might want to send a PM to joneslight as he has done some conversion from LOR1 to LOR2. His current version of LOR2 might "decrypt" this file.

Does anyone know if LOR changed their format of their file with a latest release of their software? I know this little app converts... and I believe Light Show Pro can perform a conversion. I'm curious if LOR developers decided to encrypt the files to prevent this.


I have LOR1, LOR2, LSP and Vixen. I believe the referenced file is encrypted. (If it is the demo version it is) Also There was a bug in LOR2 that was encrypting the files when it should not have. (IE: Non-demo vs Demo) .

I also believe they did change the format slightly.


If you want me to look at it, send me an email through DIYC and I'll see what I can do.

[joneslights]

Here is a zip of 1 sequence, 2 formats. LOR2 (older) and LOR2 update. Looks like they added a few items around "grid timings"

[aERonAUtical96]

The timing grid changes are ok. I ended up ignoring that and based the conversion on a 1ms timing. It made it easier to calculate the value that way versus a non-cyclic timing that LOR allows. It just forces a manual reset of the vix file to get it to a timing of your choice (ie 25, 50 100 ms).

I also notice that they added an intensity attribute on the twinkle and shimmer effects. I think this can be added, but I'm going to hold off on doing that. I'm thinking I would like to create the next version as a add-in tool to vixen. It's been a couple of years since I've programmed in C# so it will be a nice exercise. I'll end up playing around with this between Christmas and new years.

[joneslights]

The timing grid changes are ok. I ended up ignoring that and based the conversion on a 1ms timing. It made it easier to calculate the value that way versus a non-cyclic timing that LOR allows. It just forces a manual reset of the vix file to get it to a timing of your choice (ie 25, 50 100 ms).

I also notice that they added an intensity attribute on the twinkle and shimmer effects. I think this can be added, but I'm going to hold off on doing that. I'm thinking I would like to create the next version as a add-in tool to vixen. It's been a couple of years since I've programmed in C# so it will be a nice exercise. I'll end up playing around with this between Christmas and new years.

Can I get a copy, or did you post it somewhere?

[aERonAUtical96]

If you are referring to an add-in tool to vixen... I haven't created it yet :) Just something in my mind. But if I do, you'll be the first to get it. hehehe I honestly won't be able to start to work on it until after the 2nd week in December, once my show goes live. I can then start to familiarize myself with c# xml routines.

I would like to convert from java to c# in order to add it to vixen's add-in menu. I think most people will benefit from that versus running it as a standalone java app.

[joneslights]

If you are referring to an add-in tool to vixen... I haven't created it yet :) Just something in my mind. But if I do, you'll be the first to get it. hehehe I honestly won't be able to start to work on it until after the 2nd week in December, once my show goes live. I can then start to familiarize myself with c# xml routines.

I would like to convert from java to c# in order to add it to vixen's add-in menu. I think most people will benefit from that versus running it as a standalone java app.


I was referring to any changes you have made in the java version...

[Photovor]

Just a heads up, but the new demo version of the LOR software encrypts the save file, so it's not in plain XML, which breaks things. Anyone have an older version of the demo out there so I can do these conversions?

[lonewolf41]

Ditto. Maybe put a copy in the file library.

Thanks.

[nofear]

From reading the LOR boards, it appears that the demo version and basic version creates these encrypted format LOR sequences. I grabbed a bunch of the older versions of the LOR software. Is it ok to post this in our file repository?

[Photovor]

From reading the LOR boards, it appears that the demo version and basic version creates these encrypted format LOR sequences. I grabbed a bunch of the older versions of the LOR software. Is it ok to post this in our file repository?


That or pm me and i'll give you my email. It's demo software, as long as you don't post a cd key, I can't see any harm.

What versions did you find? I was able to go back to 2.4, but it was still encrypting the stuff. I used to have one that i downloaded last year, that didn't encrypt, but that's long gone.

[lonewolf41]

I have versions:
2.6.0
2.5.6
2.5.4
2.5.2
2.4.10
2.4.8
2.3.8
2.3.6
2.3.4

I haven't had the chance to try them all out yet, but let me know if one would work and I can also post it if it does.

[lonewolf41]

I tried 2.3.4 and it didn't work so I assume the latter ones won't either. :(

[sdrose65]

I have versions:
2.6.0
2.5.6
2.5.4
2.5.2
2.4.10
2.4.8
2.3.8
2.3.6
2.3.4

I haven't had the chance to try them all out yet, but let me know if one would work and I can also post it if it does.
The version my friend used to export some lor sequences into the lor 2 format was 2.3.8. The lor2vixen converter did not throw an error but it didnt do the conversion it just sat there with a disabled "convert" button.

I pulled a couple LOR 2 files from some of the threads on the board and the converter did convert those correctly.

[aERonAUtical96]

I uploaded an update to the converter so you might want to check that version out. I think I resolved the issue with what you were seeing.

[sdrose65]

I uploaded an update to the converter so you might want to check that version out. I think I resolved the issue with what you were seeing.
This version worked perfectly with the files I had :-). Thanks very much!

May all your lights be blinky-dimmy-flashy!

[Photovor]

I uploaded an update to the converter so you might want to check that version out. I think I resolved the issue with what you were seeing.

Any versions out there attempt to decode the encrypted stuff?

[aERonAUtical96]

Nah... there's no way. Unless I know their encryption schema, it would be tough to decipher. Unless they use a simple scheme like base64 or something similar, no way I could do it.

[dirknerkle]

Besides, you'd get the LOR police after you :-?

[sdrose65]

Nah... there's no way. Unless I know their encryption schema, it would be tough to decipher. Unless they use a simple scheme like base64 or something similar, no way I could do it.
No need to break the encryption. One would just need to figure out the use of the classes and methods in the lorsequence.dll. I loaded up my visual studio and added a reference to the lorsequence.dll and was able to pass the lorsequence.loadfile methed a file name and loaded a file and read the sequence properties of a LOR 1 lsm file. I assume one could take this a step further and do a native conversion of the encrypted file . Oh, and this is using LOR sequence editor v2.6.0 in demo mode. I also saved a LOR1 file out as a LOR 2 (encrypted since I only have the demo) and was able to read the same information from the LOR2 encrypted file.

So if one is familiar enough with the sequencing format the possibility is there to write a program that could convert the older LOR files into vixen format.

[aERonAUtical96]

That's interesting. But now you start getting into the LOR apis which is nice because they know how to handle their file formats, encrypted or not... but I'm not sure about the legal ramifications of that.

Once things settle down a bit, my next idea was to convert the app into a vixen add on tool. Writing in C# would allow access to the dll. I think I can write a tool that uses the dll as long as I don't distribute the dll with the tool... or something like that. It would just require you to have LOR dll already installed.

[marquisite]

Is there anything available to convert the other way around?

I sequenced in Vixen 2.5 for 2009 with a combo of 595 and LOR controllers.. this year the plan is to drop the 595 boards for DC LOR's thus it makes sense to return to the proprietary LOR software (due to a few issues with the 3rd party LOR1 vixen plugin).

If possible I'd like to avoid sequencing from scratch.

[rangebob]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life. I'm trying to convert last years sequences from LOR to Vixen. I didn't want to have to copy channels from one sequence to another in Vixen so I went into LOR and re-alligned everything to where I want them to be at and got rid of everything else. It looks fine in LOR. I then ran the converter program and it shows the channels in the original format in LOR minus the channels that I deleted and the one's that I added. Where would it be pulling the original format from?

Thanks for your help.

[Mactayl]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life. I'm trying to convert last years sequences from LOR to Vixen. I didn't want to have to copy channels from one sequence to another in Vixen so I went into LOR and re-alligned everything to where I want them to be at and got rid of everything else. It looks fine in LOR. I then ran the converter program and it shows the channels in the original format in LOR minus the channels that I deleted and the one's that I added. Where would it be pulling the original format from?

Thanks for your help.

I don't recall seeing this problem, I'll try the same thing today to see if I can duplicate it.
edit,,, what version of LOR2 are you using?

[jem5136]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life. I'm trying to convert last years sequences from LOR to Vixen. I didn't want to have to copy channels from one sequence to another in Vixen so I went into LOR and re-alligned everything to where I want them to be at and got rid of everything else. It looks fine in LOR. I then ran the converter program and it shows the channels in the original format in LOR minus the channels that I deleted and the one's that I added. Where would it be pulling the original format from?

Thanks for your help.

One thing you might want to check is your channel configuration. If I remember right, I had a similar problem to this last year, and I had to go into the channel configuration and make sure that the controllers all went in order. For example, controller 01 comes before 02, and the channels have to go in order for each controller too. If I remember right, I went back and made them all in order and converted them to Vixen and it worked. But that might have just been luck for me? Hope this helps.

[rangebob]

2.9.4 is the version of LOR that I'm using. The channel and controller lineup could be the problem. I did get rid of all of the associations thinking that it wouldn't make a difference. I'll go back through and give it a try and start at 1 and go up.

[rangebob]

OK, I've attempted to try a couple of LOR 16 channel controllers 1-6 channels 1 - 16 and then converted it and it was still in the original layout. I saw that the channel # went higher than 16 so I tried controller 1 and had channel 1 - 32 and then converted to Vixen with the same results.

[Mactayl]

OK, I've attempted to try a couple of LOR 16 channel controllers 1-6 channels 1 - 16 and then converted it and it was still in the original layout. I saw that the channel # went higher than 16 so I tried controller 1 and had channel 1 - 32 and then converted to Vixen with the same results.

If you don't mind you can PM me I will give you my email address so you can send me the sequence and I will try and help you out, I have not seen this problem with any of the sequences I have converted.

[rangebob]

PM sent

[jem5136]

OK, I've attempted to try a couple of LOR 16 channel controllers 1-6 channels 1 - 16 and then converted it and it was still in the original layout. I saw that the channel # went higher than 16 so I tried controller 1 and had channel 1 - 32 and then converted to Vixen with the same results.

You might want to try and look into Vixen. If you set up a profile in Vixen with the channel order in the wrong way with one of the old sequences, that might be your problem and your sequences might be automatically having that old profile set as they are converted? I have had that happen to me a couple times.

[mmais68569]

I am using the program that was posted on this site a while back that converts LOR to Vixen sequences. All has been going good all have converted till tonight. I keep getting the below listed error message. When it comes to these items I am dumb can anyone help me out & tell me what it is all about. I have redone this sequence on 2 different computers one with XP the other with Vista & have the same results. I am thinking it maybe the way the voice over was done that is causing the error.
Thanks Mike



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Stack Trace:
lor2vix.Convert.convert(Convert.java:259)
lor2vix.LOR2VIXView.convertToVixen(LOR2VIXView.jav a:275)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.noProxy ActionPerformed(ApplicationAction.java:662)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.actionP erformed(ApplicationAction.java:698)
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unk nown Source)
javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseRe leased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent( Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(U nknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unkno wn Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectio nPrivilege(Unknown Source)
java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectio nPrivilege(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(Unknown Source)
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java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
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java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilter s(Unknown Source)
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java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarch y(Unknown Source)
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[Mactayl]

I am using the program that was posted on this site a while back that converts LOR to Vixen sequences. All has been going good all have converted till tonight. I keep getting the below listed error message. When it comes to these items I am dumb can anyone help me out & tell me what it is all about. I have redone this sequence on 2 different computers one with XP the other with Vista & have the same results. I am thinking it maybe the way the voice over was done that is causing the error.
Thanks Mike



4219

Stack Trace:
lor2vix.Convert.convert(Convert.java:259)
lor2vix.LOR2VIXView.convertToVixen(LOR2VIXView.jav a:275)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Nativ e Method)
sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Unknow n Source)
sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(Un known Source)
java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Unknown Source)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.noProxy ActionPerformed(ApplicationAction.java:662)
org.jdesktop.application.ApplicationAction.actionP erformed(ApplicationAction.java:698)
javax.swing.AbstractButton.fireActionPerformed(Unk nown Source)
javax.swing.AbstractButton$Handler.actionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.fireActionPerformed (Unknown Source)
javax.swing.DefaultButtonModel.setPressed(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicButtonListener.mouseRe leased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.AWTEventMulticaster.mouseReleased(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
javax.swing.JComponent.processMouseEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.processEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.retargetMouseEvent( Unknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.processMouseEvent(U nknown Source)
java.awt.LightweightDispatcher.dispatchEvent(Unkno wn Source)
java.awt.Container.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Window.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.Component.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectio nPrivilege(Unknown Source)
java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectio nPrivilege(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue$2.run(Unknown Source)
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectio nPrivilege(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilter s(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(U nknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarch y(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
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Are you using LOR S1 or LOR S2 because that will make a big difference, if you need help PM me and I'll help you sort it out.

[mmais68569]

I am using LOR 2 & have converted 6 sequences prior to this problem with no trouble. I think what has happened is my Java has been turned off & that is what the program is based on. Any idea on how to turn it back on? It was in the startup menu & I deleted it, from that menu.

Mike

[Mactayl]

I am using LOR 2 & have converted 6 sequences prior to this problem with no trouble. I think what has happened is my Java has been turned off & that is what the program is based on. Any idea on how to turn it back on? It was in the startup menu & I deleted it, from that menu.

Mike

Go to your control panel in windows and there should be a Java Icon, double click it and under the Java tab click view and make sure it is enabled for the user and system then open the advanced tab and make sure the Java plugin is enabled there. BTW did you say you deleted it or just disabled it. If you just disabled it you can change the with the Start tab the click run and type msconfig and re enable it in your startup's tab.
Hope this helps

[mmais68569]

Problem solved one of the board members found the problem below is his findings.

"
I converted them for you, The problem that I saw was you ran your sequence right to the end of the timing grid. The LOR converter and Vixen sometimes can't handle sequences that go to the end of the timing grid so I turned off all of the channels in the last column grid then it converted fine which you will see in the .lms file I included. You should also make sure that none of your sequences made in Vixen do not have anything on at the end of the timing grid because that will also cause hang-up problems when you try and run your show with multiple sequences.
Hope this helps."

Mike

[Mactayl]

Problem solved one of the board members found the problem below is his findings.

"
I converted them for you, The problem that I saw was you ran your sequence right to the end of the timing grid. The LOR converter and Vixen sometimes can't handle sequences that go to the end of the timing grid so I turned off all of the channels in the last column grid then it converted fine which you will see in the .lms file I included. You should also make sure that none of your sequences made in Vixen do not have anything on at the end of the timing grid because that will also cause hang-up problems when you try and run your show with multiple sequences.
Hope this helps."

Mike

Enjoy;)

[Renard64]

Where is the current version of Lor2Vix at? the ones i keep finding don't work and are old

[budude]

Where is the current version of Lor2Vix at? the ones i keep finding don't work and are old

The latest is at: http://www.mediafire.com/?lxwdqx0qivz

Can you explain "don't work"? It could be the sequences you have as well - they need to be S2 (or S3) and not created with the demo version which encrypts them.

Welcome to DIYC btw - creative name there!

[Renard64]

Thanks.. that one worked... except on the ones it didn't work on... hahahahaha Anyone know why it hoses up some files, and makes them unusable in Vixen? Like adding extra tracks and moving the output masks around??

[budude]

Thanks.. that one worked... except on the ones it didn't work on... hahahahaha Anyone know why it hoses up some files, and makes them unusable in Vixen? Like adding extra tracks and moving the output masks around??

Post some of the sequences and we can take a look. One thing the converter doesn't like is channels on in the last interval so that needs to be cleared in LOR prior to conversion. I have S3 so I can convert for you unless the sequence is hosed up.

[Mactayl]

Sometimes if the sequence has data on the last cells or timing grids of the sequence turned on it will not convert so make sure your last cells or anything on the sequence grid at the end of the sequence has no channels turned on before you try to convert your sequence.
Hope this helps...