Ren-T (The transformer board) COOP 'out of stock'

[Wayne J]

Now that the Renard64 is on it's way into our displays, here is the coop for the Ren-T. I have posted all the files needed if home etching is an option for you. If not, then you can get them from this coop.

"How many will I need?" you ask...

1 Ren-T for multiple Renard 64's with PWM firmware and status LEDs installed, but you need to get the 5 volts from another source. It is only providing the ZC

1 Ren-T per 2 Renard 64's with the non-PWM firmware with or without status LEDs and no need for an alternate power supply.




The parts list, assembly, ect., ect. is here.....

http://www.christmasinshirley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477


Important note on the Tamura transformer.

During testing and troubleshooting of the Ren-C, it has been found that non-center tapped transformers (Tamura unit) does not provide reliable Zero Cross and should not be used. A Center Tap transformer needs to be used, such as the Xicon 41PG300 listed in the BOM. The BOM and assembly notes have been modified for this change, as well as the WIKI.

Also, the Radio Shack transformer SKU# 273-1365 is a nice part for this application.


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[Dan Ross]

Put me in for three.

I'll go up to four if it helps get the quantity up enough for another price drop.

[Mudsculpter]

Two please

[Macrosill]

The speaker shouts: Hi, Welcome to Wayne's drive through, may I take your order please.

"Yes please. I would like 3 Ren-T's please."

The shouting speaker: Would you like to super size those T's?

No thank you. Just regular is fine.


The moral of the story is I would like 3 T's please. :lol:

[Jeff Millard]

jeffmill - 2

Jeff lands in the parking lot... walks up to the window and yells into the speaker "YEP, TWO!" walks back to his ship a flys away to a place high above a bunch of blinkin' lights...

(He loves those things)

Moral: Yep, two!
j

[RavingLunatic]

Mysterious voice from the speaker says: "Name Please"

Response: RavingLunatic

Speaker responds: "Confirm your order please"

Response: 4 Thank you.... no wait a minute :? , maybe I should get more :wink: , you never know if there will be another coop :x , better make that 6 just in case :D

[Mudsculpter]

I'm glad others have a sense of humor too,.... I was beginning to wonder,.... I will still take two of them thing-a-ma-bobs

[azcap21]

Put me in for 2 RenT boards. Please let me know how how you would like to be paid?

Thanks

[bonuts]

You currently have me down for 1, but I'll take 2 total.

[JerryWS98]

I'm in for one.

[jderba]

Please put me down for 1

Thanks

Jack

[teberle]

Put me in for 1.

[Michael]

I will take one please.

Sorry no humor, I have been spending too much time reading schematics and BOM's and it has sucked the life out of me. Must get things blinking to get life back!

- Michael

[Wayne J]

We are now over the 25 count mark, this should bring the boards to the $4.00 - $5.00 range.

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[dvanteslaar]

Wayne,

Since one Ren-T powers two Renard 64's, I'm in need of two (2) Ren-T boards - do you have any left to sell? If so, what is the price/unit?
David

[Wayne J]

Wayne,

Since one Ren-T powers two Renard 64's, I'm in need of two (2) Ren-T boards - do you have any left to sell? If so, what is the price/unit?
David

David,
the definate price is not know yet, waiting on a board count. Estimate is close to $4.00 ea. Everything that is known is in the first post.
I'm gonna let this run for at least another week before I send the order in.
I went ahead and put you down for 2. :wink:

[grages]

Wayne,

Please increase mine to a total of three boards.

Thanks

Shawn

[briank]

Put me down for one as well please.

[Elmo2resc]

put me down for 2 boards. Thanks, Jerome

[JaysonH]

Put me down for two boards please. And shame on you guys for making the transformer go on backorder! :p

[Wayne J]

Put me down for two boards please. And shame on you guys for making the transformer go on backorder! :p

The Tamura transformer is on backorder, but the Xicon 41PG300 transformer is availiable. :wink:


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[Wayne J]

Important note on the Tamura transformer.

During testing and troubleshooting of the Ren-C, it has been found that the Tamura transformer does not provide reliable Zero Cross and should not be used. A Center Tap transformer needs to be used, such as the Xicon 41PG300 listed in the BOM. The BOM and assembly notes have been modified for this change, as well as the WIKI.

Also, the Radio Shack transformer SKU# 273-1365 is a nice part for this application.

[alwysrit2]

If the Order hasn't gone in yet, I would like to get one as well.
Thanks
-Don

[Wayne J]

The boards are ordered. See first post for info. ;)

[Dan Ross]

Money Sent. Thanks.

[teberle]

If I ma going to have 2 Ren-C boards can I power them with 1 Ren-T board or do I need 2. I currently have requested 1 but will up that if needed.

[Jeff Millard]

Important note on the Tamura transformer.

During testing and troubleshooting of the Ren-C, it has been found that the Tamura transformer does not provide reliable Zero Cross and should not be used.

Crap! I just noticed this note and it shipped today so I couldn't stop it. There's a new paperweight on my workbench.
j

[P. Short]

Darn, I had hoped that everyone had seen that message, and hadn't order the transformer.

Anyway, there is a way with two cuts and two jumpers on the Ren-T board to allow that transformer to be used. I'll come up with instructions later on how to use it, if anyone wants to do it.

--

Phil

[Wayne J]

If I ma going to have 2 Ren-C boards can I power them with 1 Ren-T board or do I need 2. I currently have requested 1 but will up that if needed.

The Ren-C gets 'power' from the 595 board, but still needs ZC and one Ren-T will easily provide this for the amount of boards you can put on one port.

[JaysonH]

Darn, I had hoped that everyone had seen that message, and hadn't order the transformer.

Anyway, there is a way with two cuts and two jumpers on the Ren-T board to allow that transformer to be used. I'll come up with instructions later on how to use it, if anyone wants to do it.

--

Phil


Or one REN-T with that transformer could be used for "power" and another REN-T without that transformer could be used for the ZC'ing then?

[Wayne J]

Or one REN-T with that transformer could be used for "power" and another REN-T without that transformer could be used for the ZC'ing then?

No. A fully loaded Renard 64 with PWM firmware requires 1 amp of current. That transformer is not capable of that.

[Jeff Millard]

Darn, I had hoped that everyone had seen that message, and hadn't order the transformer.

Anyway, there is a way with two cuts and two jumpers on the Ren-T board to allow that transformer to be used. I'll come up with instructions later on how to use it, if anyone wants to do it.

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Phil

Thank you Phil, but I ordered three of the other transformers today. I can send the Tamura back, but it's not worth the shipping cost. I've been working overtime trying to make some $ to fund this year's electric bill. I'm sure $6 isn't bad for a technical looking paperweight...

Jeff

[teberle]

The Ren-C gets 'power' from the 595 board, but still needs ZC and one Ren-T will easily provide this for the amount of boards you can put on one port.

Wayne - Thanks for the info. Just needed to make sure.

[teberle]

Payment sent for 1 board.

[JaysonH]

Or one REN-T with that transformer could be used for "power" and another REN-T without that transformer could be used for the ZC'ing then?

No. A fully loaded Renard 64 with PWM firmware requires 1 amp of current. That transformer is not capable of that.

Ok. Then now I'm confused once again, just after I had gotten my bearings on the whole REN64 project.

If a fully loaded Renard 64 with the PWM firmware requires 1amp of current and the only recommended transformer (now) is the 41PG300 which is only 1/3 amp (maybe it was .6 amp either way its not 1 amp) then... what has to be done?

[P. Short]

I've been recommending in this case that power be provided from an external regulated 5V supply (such as a PC power supply), and that the Ren-T be used for just the zero-crossing.

--

Phil

[JaysonH]

I've been recommending in this case that power be provided from an external regulated 5V supply (such as a PC power supply), and that the Ren-T be used for just the zero-crossing.

--

Phil

Ok, I can salvage a PC power supply. Since the +5v of a PC has decent amperage supply, could one PC power supply be used for the ZC of two (or more) REN64's then Phil?

[P. Short]

The Ren-T is used for the zero-crossing (ZC), and the PC power supply is used for power.

So I'm not sure what you're asking.

Basically, use one Ren-T per serial port on your PC (usually for one or two Ren64 boards), and one PC power supply should be able to handle several Ren64 boards.

--

Phil

[JaysonH]

The Ren-T is used for the zero-crossing (ZC), and the PC power supply is used for power.

So I'm not sure what you're asking.

Basically, use one Ren-T per serial port on your PC (usually for one or two Ren64 boards), and one PC power supply should be able to handle several Ren64 boards.

--

Phil

It's time for bed apparently. I fubared my question entirely, though you answered what I meant to say anyway, thank you Phil.

[tbrenton]

If you have extras, put me down for three.

Thanks
Tim

[blake_l]

Hi, Wayne. Can you put me down for 2, if you still have some unallocated? Let me know and I'll PayPal you.

Thanks!
--Blake

[Wayne J]

Hi, Wayne. Can you put me down for 2, if you still have some unallocated? Let me know and I'll PayPal you.

Thanks!
--Blake

added to the list. :wink:

[random_rodder]

Wayne,

If you have 2 extras, I'll take 2.

Thanks,

Brian

[Doug-in-the-woods]

just got an email from Wayne, got right transformer.
Can't believe how cheap the Renard is compared to a 595
About the same w/ Ren-T included.
Now just need more SSr parts.

[wjohn]

and they dimm!!!!

[Doug-in-the-woods]

As I forgot to mention DIMMING
Just 68 more days to decorate countdown (Nov 26 I start and hopfully all works)

[Wayne J]

UPDATE

I received notification that the boards have been shipped to me, I hope to have them in my hands by mid-week. My plan is to prep them for shipping over the weekend.

There are a few names still on the list that have not paid, if you still want the boards you requested, payment needs to be made promptly. :wink:

This coop will close Thursday (9/20) as will the coop price for the pcb's.

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[random_rodder]

Money sent via PayPal...

Thanks,

Brian

[Wayne J]

The pcb's have arrived!

They look really good, I hope you guys like them.

I will be doing the shipping duties and try to get them all out by Monday at the latest.

http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5069/rentpcbvq0.th.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rentpcbvq0.jpg)

[Macrosill]

Well its about freakin time!

[teberle]

Awesome, do you need any shipping details?

[Wayne J]

Awesome, do you need any shipping details?

No, should be OK, everyone sent that with their payment. :wink:

[Wayne J]

COOP closed.

All paid pre-orders have been packaged.

A few extra boards was ordered, and the current prices are in the first post. If you need any, just shoot me a PM.

[Wayne J]

All paid orders have been packaged, postage labels have been bought, and I'm on my way to the post office. I know some of you are waiting on this board so you can test your hardware, so I made this #1 priority today. ;)

[lbro]

All paid orders have been packaged, postage labels have been bought, and I'm on my way to the post office. I know some of you are waiting on this board so you can test your hardware, so I made this #1 priority today. ;)

That is why Wayne is the best :D

[random_rodder]

All paid orders have been packaged, postage labels have been bought, and I'm on my way to the post office. I know some of you are waiting on this board so you can test your hardware, so I made this #1 priority today. ;)

Awesome!!! Thanks Wayne!!!

[grages]

All paid orders have been packaged, postage labels have been bought, and I'm on my way to the post office. I know some of you are waiting on this board so you can test your hardware, so I made this #1 priority today. ;)

You are the Man!

[bonuts]

Thanks for all of Phil's and your time time designing and testing. And thanks for all your efforts running to coop.

[Elmo2resc]

I can't wait. The Ren-T is the last piece of the puzzle for me. Thanks for all the hard work put toward the coop and the board. Jerome

[teberle]

Not only is the board on the way but mouser shipped my parts as well. Should have it all early next week. Thanks.

[grages]

Recieved my boards today. They look great, thanks for all the hard work go out to all who were envolved in it creation.

Shawn :D

[LRNeener]

I also got the boards today. They look great, nice job wayne.
I will post some pics tonight.
Camron

[Jeff Millard]

Ditto! 2 Ren-T Co-op boards in hand!!!! Time to fire up the soldering iron!!!
Thank you Wayne...
j

[Elmo2resc]

2 ren-t's arrived today. They look great. Now I have some work to do....Thanks for the coop....Jerome

[Dan Ross]

Got mine today also.

Now all I need is for the parts to get here from mouser (they shipped today) and for the REN-C to be released and I'll be a happy camper...

[Macrosill]

Got mine today too!

[random_rodder]

Mine landed today as well...

Thanks!!!

[JerryWS98]

Looks like we all got them today. Thanks a million, Wayne!

[Mudsculpter]

Ditto

[Michael]

Ditto

[RavingLunatic]

Got mine also.

Great COOP Wayne!!! :D

Thanks!

[teberle]

Got my board and parts today. Finished the assembly and was able to get a blinking light on the Ren-C board. Just need to get a straight thru serial cable to see if I can get a signal to the 595 board now.

I have tried using DB9 to RJ45's on both ends but I get an error from Vixen 2.0 saying it can't open the com port.

[Wayne J]

Now that everyone is assembling the boards, if we have any questions on assembly or operation, there is a thread in the Renard forum for the Ren-T. Posting everything there will keep info from getting spread out in different locations.

http://www.christmasinshirley.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=477


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[bonuts]

Received mine! Thanks Wayne!

[jscheve]

Received mine also! Thanks Wayne! :D

[Doug-in-the-woods]

I thought I posted this but couldn't find the post?
Do I need to add the jumper wires to the Ren-T board as it looks like the pc traces are in place of the jumpers? on the top of the board.
Wondered about this while assembling.

[Wayne J]

I thought I posted this but couldn't find the post?
Do I need to add the jumper wires to the Ren-T board as it looks like the pc traces are in place of the jumpers? on the top of the board.
Wondered about this while assembling.

No, not needed. It was made that way to look like the home etch version, but the via's make the contact, so don't add the wire jumpers. ;)

[tconley]

do you have any left?

[Wayne J]

do you have any left?

Yes I do, a small stack still sitting here. I will put an ad in the DIY Store. ;)

[Wayne J]

do you have any left?

Yes I do, a small stack still sitting here. I will put an ad in the DIY Store. ;)

[thetoolman]

wayneJ; I'm new to this site, so how can I score a RenT board?

Thanx,

Jeff

[Wayne J]

wayneJ; I'm new to this site, so how can I score a RenT board?

Thanx,

Jeff

Just paypal the funds for the amount of pcb's you want. The first post of this thread has all the info in it.

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