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navyav8tr
11-24-2015, 09:02 PM
I had big plans this year of getting this to fly. Perhaps next year but here is my setup of Santa and 9 reindeer (included Rudolph). It is suspended from the house and a light pole. Just some pics of the build. I also replaced the standard 7watt bulbs with 40W equivalent LEDs.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/jedipug/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpeg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/jedipug/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image.jpeg.html)

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toozie21
11-24-2015, 09:14 PM
Looks great Charlie, sorry I probably won't get to see it this year!

I was actually thinking about your flying santa the other day while I was in Lowes. While looking at their little christmas village that had a flying santa, I thought it might be something that could be re-worked for fullsize. Essentially the santa and reindeer didn't move forward any, but the went up/down in an alternating fashion like a carousel does. So you could mount them in some way and have a motor(s) and cam system to raise lower them a foot or two and give them the look of flying without figuring out how to light them while having cross your court and NOT take out someone's $55k car. Just a thought that popped into my head....

Short and badly typed since written from my phone...

Rick Todd
11-24-2015, 09:18 PM
That looks awesome! I hope to see it in action next year.

navyav8tr
12-01-2015, 11:14 AM
Shot of the team in action.

http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u135/jedipug/Mobile%20Uploads/image_5.jpeg (http://s167.photobucket.com/user/jedipug/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_5.jpeg.html)

loveroflife96
12-11-2015, 12:26 AM
Can you post some close up pics of the attachment of the reindeers to the clear tubing? Exactly what I want to do....won't get to it this year and still have 4 more reindeer to find :-)

Thanks...Duane

navyav8tr
12-11-2015, 08:18 PM
Absolutely. Will get some tomorrow.

timpwk
12-11-2015, 10:12 PM
looks great!

Snowman7
12-11-2015, 11:17 PM
What??? Thats awesome! Very inventive.

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navyav8tr
12-13-2015, 05:08 PM
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duane.mosley
01-21-2016, 12:34 AM
i like your set up. i have had mine hanging from the house to a tree in my yard for a few years now. i only have 4 reindeer though. i too have been trying to figure out how i could get them moving

ukewarrior
01-21-2016, 07:27 PM
Very awesome !
Love the hookups and rope lights.

JasonPortwood
01-21-2016, 08:23 PM
Can you fill us in on how you did the light modification?

Jerry-Rigs
01-21-2016, 09:45 PM
Movement, hmmmm.
It looks like you have 2 parallel cables running the length of the rig and supporting it from the outside edges. I do not know how much tension is on those cables but can you rock one side by pulling it down slightly? What happens if you pull one side near the front down a little, let it return to normal, then pull it down near the sleigh a little and let it return, and repeat? The idea would be move the left and right sides vertically out of sync with each other. It may just look cheesy but if it looks ok, you could mount windshield wiper motors with bell arms on the ground below and attach the bell arms to the sides of the rig. Monsterguts.com sells that kind of stuff if you can't scrounge it.

algerdes
01-21-2016, 10:53 PM
I think Jerry-Rigs is on the right track. Even if you only moved one end up and down, you would let gravity do the work.

One of the floats in the Rose Parade this year had a couple of guys zip-lining back and forth. They raised and lowered one end to get a "downhill" effect for the sliders. You could do the same thing, just turn the lights off when the system is moving Santa back into position.

The other thing to do would be to hook up a "tow cable" and pull it back into place once a run has been made.

Jerry-Rigs
01-21-2016, 11:38 PM
I was meaning more leaning parts of the rig side to side rather than moving the whole thing forward and back.

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covewi
01-21-2016, 11:41 PM
Can you also tell more about the white lights covering the front of your house...light type, hangers, spacing etc?

ukewarrior
01-22-2016, 11:36 AM
First, let me say this is so impressive that I'm going to go and build one myself.
It's very unique.

What exactly are the clear tubes and where did you get them?

Any insights as to how you store this? Do you disassemble it?
It appears you have a cable running through each reindeer and one additional cable that carries all of the electrical wire.

Can you show some more detail as to how Rudolph is connected and how you terminate the cables at the poles?

ukewarrior
01-22-2016, 01:11 PM
I have found a source for this set of santa and reindeer, but it requires me to travel some to get it.
If anyone else in Central Ohio or the Findlay/Lima area is interested in getting santa or the addon reindeer, PM me.
The problem with these blowmolds is that shipping can cost more than the item!

navyav8tr
06-23-2016, 08:22 AM
So sorry for this extremely late reply. Once Christmas was over I needed to decompress and haven't been on the forums in a while.
I used polycarbonate tubing from Amazon.
https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Tubing-Wall-Clear-Color/dp/B00193UNEA/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1466684287&sr=8-4&keywords=polycarbonate+tube

What I did was drill a hole large enough to feed the cable through polycarbonate tube and reindeer. From there in order to secure the reindeer into position I had to use the the u shaped clamps in the front and the back. If you don't they will slide down the wire.

I did disassemble it for storage and next year will just redo everything again (with the hope of it moving).


First, let me say this is so impressive that I'm going to go and build one myself.
It's very unique.

What exactly are the clear tubes and where did you get them?

Any insights as to how you store this? Do you disassemble it?
It appears you have a cable running through each reindeer and one additional cable that carries all of the electrical wire.

Can you show some more detail as to how Rudolph is connected and how you terminate the cables at the poles?

Ausrod4
12-23-2016, 08:40 PM
any luck with making these move?

Ruppro
12-23-2016, 08:52 PM
I believe so, he was featured on the Great American Light Fight either Dec 5th or Dec 12th

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-great-christmas-light-fight/video/most-recent/VDKA3568436

navyav8tr
12-24-2016, 07:54 PM
They have been flying all season. Ended up going with pneumatic cyclinders to get the effect.

beeiilll
12-24-2016, 10:21 PM
Looks great Charlie! Glad I was able to help get your team flying!

Merry Christmas

Bill

navyav8tr
12-26-2016, 09:05 AM
Looks great Charlie! Glad I was able to help get your team flying!

Merry Christmas

Bill

Thanks so much Bill. If it weren't for you I would have never figured out the polycarbonate tubing idea.

timpwk
12-26-2016, 08:09 PM
After years of looking I finally managed to get the 9 blow mold deer and sleigh yesterday at an after christmas sale at our local ace hardware at 50% off, now I want to suspend it above my house, I am not worried about a flying effect as we are 200 feet from the road and my thought is that any motion large enough to not look like wind wobble would be difficult to pull off, however I desperately want to suspend it. Is there any chance you could email me a parts list and a "how to build for dummies" instructions of your cable system? Judging by your screen name I should ask that you put instruction into words a 27yr Army guy could understand! Thanks for any help you can give me!!!!

navyav8tr
12-27-2016, 06:12 PM
So Bill was definitely the inspiration on how I did it. But to be honest it is a very simple setup. I used polycarbonate tubes 2' variety.

https://www.amazon.com/Polycarbonate-Tubing-Wall-Clear-Color/dp/B00193UNBI/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482876363&sr=8-2&keywords=polycarbonate+tubes

I also used this cable to run through the Reindeer and Santa.

https://www.amazon.com/Forney-70452-Aircraft-250-Feet-16-Inch/dp/B003YDK49M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1482876440&sr=8-2&keywords=aircraft+cable

If you look at the previous pictures you can see how it all just comes together. I will look to see if I have some better pictures.

You will also need these clamps to hold the reindeer in place and with the correct spacing. I believe I used 1.5" between each set of reindeer and Santa. https://www.amazon.com/Hillman-Group-310209-Wire-Rope/dp/B00GI1BPOA/ref=pd_sim_469_4?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00GI1BPOA&pd_rd_r=FM0VN3A4QB5ZREHR24PZ&pd_rd_w=P7h2u&pd_rd_wg=fDW0O&psc=1&refRID=FM0VN3A4QB5ZREHR24PZ

beeiilll
12-28-2016, 11:06 AM
After years of looking I finally managed to get the 9 blow mold deer and sleigh yesterday at an after christmas sale at our local ace hardware at 50% off, now I want to suspend it above my house, I am not worried about a flying effect as we are 200 feet from the road and my thought is that any motion large enough to not look like wind wobble would be difficult to pull off, however I desperately want to suspend it. Is there any chance you could email me a parts list and a "how to build for dummies" instructions of your cable system? Judging by your screen name I should ask that you put instruction into words a 27yr Army guy could understand! Thanks for any help you can give me!!!!

I can post some pictures of my sleigh setup as well if it will help you? I built mine and gave Charlie a bunch of pictures to show him.
I have mine setup with an LOR controller under the sleigh that controls each reindeer, Santa, and two runs of Red/Green rope light for the reins. That way I only need to run a cat cable and power to the sleigh.
I strung mine up between my house and a tree but did not use anything to make motion as the breeze usually makes it move enough for me so far! I have hopes of someday making a monorail style system to make the sleigh go around the yard but so far nothing that elaborate!
Just let me know and I can send you photos if you like.

Ausrod4
12-28-2016, 06:54 PM
would it be hard to set up some sort of stepper motor that pulls the sleigh on a cable back and forth? anyone have any ideas? also anyone controlled something like that with falcon at all?

beeiilll
12-28-2016, 08:01 PM
There is a fellow in Colorado, I think, that made a cable setup much like an old rope ski tow line with limit switches at each end and a reversible motor to bring the whole thing back to the start point. I had planned to make a similar setup with two towers but have not gotten to it.
I would think that a stepper motor would be "jerky" for the motion while a fair DC PWM control motor or just a plain AC motor with step down gearing would work better.
Limit switches at the start and finish with a reversing relay for the motor is pretty much it although I would only use a controller like the Falcon or any other to run a relay with adequate protection for the controller. That way you can use a good contactor relay for the motor power that has a low voltage coil so as not to draw a lot through the controller.

timpwk
01-12-2017, 11:01 PM
I am also considering putting in a brighter bulb n the deer. I was thinking about some 25W or 40W equivalent LED bulbs, but that could reuire reingeneering the hole for the bulb. Has anyone done this?

beeiilll
01-13-2017, 08:54 AM
I am also considering putting in a brighter bulb n the deer. I was thinking about some 25W or 40W equivalent LED bulbs, but that could reuire reingeneering the hole for the bulb. Has anyone done this?

I didn't put brighter bulbs in my deer but I did add bulbs to them to get a more even glow out of them! I put a bulb in the rear leg area and another in the neck.
I did mod a GV deer to have a C7 bulb in his nose for my Rudolf one as well.

timpwk
01-14-2017, 10:54 AM
Bill, I like the idea of spreading out the light, however I think I want to go with LED due t the fact I may put these on my roof and many years once we get to December getting on the roof to replace a blown light is impossible due to snow and ice. Maybe I can find a way to do it with LED's if I can fnd a financialy sound source.

beeiilll
01-14-2017, 12:33 PM
Bill, I like the idea of spreading out the light, however I think I want to go with LED due t the fact I may put these on my roof and many years once we get to December getting on the roof to replace a blown light is impossible due to snow and ice. Maybe I can find a way to do it with LED's if I can fnd a financialy sound source.

I agree all too much with you on this! I use dimmable C7 LED bulbs in mine as well since my sleight is 12 feet up in the air for the season!
I bought a bunch of dimmable replacement ones from AliExpress a couple years back but don't see them on his site anymore.
You can find them though from other sources like here:

http://www.ledholidaylighting.com/c7LEDreplacementBulb.aspx

or

http://www.christmaslightsetc.com/p/C7-Christmas-Lights-120V-Cool-White-LED-Replacement-Bulb-Package-of-25--18680.htm#F1V22955F373V331

I have 175 blowmolds as well that I have converted to LED bulbs so I use a lot of them myself! :w00t:

Bill

beeiilll
01-17-2017, 03:10 PM
Here are some pictures of my reindeer for making them brighter. I ran the zip cord up inside the deer to get to the lamp socket for the head. It made it easier to maintain and out of the way.

I used fender washers on the sleight to distribute the load of the cable and keep it from cutting into the plastic. There are two washers at each point, 1 on the outside and 1 on the inside. I drilled three holes and used 8/32 machine screws, nuts, lock washers to "sandwich" the plastic between them.
Those two cables are the main ones that run from end to end and terminate in loops so that I can use other cables or anything else to mount the sleight team too.

JasonPortwood
10-10-2017, 04:51 PM
On this same topic, I'm finally getting my team deployed after two years of misfires. I have a question about securing the team in the air.

I have a pine tree that I have attached a board up about 45' into the tree with two pulleys on it. The board is pressure treated 2x6 and painted. It's secured with tie wraps, a ratchet strap (It'll rust shut soon enough), screws and the board is mounted on the back side of the tree. So the strength of the board is used more than the attaching mechanisms. I looped two coated aviation cables up and down through each of the pulleys with loops on each end and secured them just out of reach without a small ladder. This is all permanent.

I'll be hooking two other cables to these cables along with the team out into the yard. The team is set up a lot like the ones pictured in the thread with the PVC. The question is this...

I'm going to use ground anchors on both sets of ends. I have the potential for about a 100' span from the ground to the top. I'm going to put it out as far as I can of course to have a nice angle. The team will pretty much in the center of the run. I will also use run a couple cables from the center of the team down to the ground to anchors there to keep it from swaying in the wind too much.

Any advice on picking a ground anchors for the job?

The biggest vortex anchor is I think about 450 pound of strength. I've seen some bigger ones that go to up (https://www.amazon.com/Products-Cutting-Edge-Auger-Anchor/dp/B01FUXE0MK/ref=sr_1_2?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1507663835&sr=1-2&keywords=earth%2Bauger%2Banchor&th=1) to 3500 pound. I don't want to go overkill on it but I want it to be safe too.

Thanks,

Jason

stallionent
10-10-2017, 05:00 PM
Very strong anchor. Ring folds down so lawn mower won't hit it. 37657 Amazon https://www.amazon.com/Liberty-Outdoor-ANCFR16-ORG-Folding-16-Inch/dp/B005FOHXFQ/ref=sr_1_3_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1507669324&sr=8-3-spons&keywords=ground+anchor&psc=1

huberylu
10-16-2017, 06:54 AM
So many reindeer like flying, great job!