Ren 24 LV Board Order *** Open to September 4th ***

[fkostyun]

The NEW Paypal payment is Frank@Kostyun.Com

The Co-Op board cost will be $20.00/board (I am pricing based on a assumed 20 board order) with a flat rate of $5.50 for shipping for up to 10 boards for the United States. I am NOT doing PICS for this board.

This is a new board based on the Ren24 - It also includes two more diag LEDs. It features the "core" of the Ren24 and 6 RJ45 jacks for either CoOp SSRs or individual LED lamps. My reason for this board is to re-do my starfield with individually controllable LED's instead of C9's

The PIC's will need to be loaded with the + output firmware. (Option in the firmware) this is considered an early release board, and it may contain bugs or small issues. I don't anticipate anything major since the core is based on the Ren24, but the potential is there.

The parts list is almost IDENTICAL to the Ren24 with a few notable exceptions. The addition of 6 additional RJ45 jacks, 4 additional jumpers, and 4 ULN2803 chips. It also eliminated 24 of the following: moc3023, BTA08-400, 180 ohm resistor, and 24 680ohm resistors. Also eliminated are the six pin connectors, the 4 double stacked connectors, or all but 2 of the spade connectors.

Mounting will be setup for the CG-1000 box from www.yourbroadbandstore.com


It will accept the 4/5 pin power input connector, but, will also work with the 2 pin connector.

This CoOp will End September 4th at 8:00PM MST (The time is so that the order can be placed that night) (Time change due to an awaiting a test order and also mouser parts for a hole change check.)

This IS the order you'll want to jump on to have the boards for Halloween!!!!!

Renard24 Information (http://christmasinshirley.com/wiki/index.php?title=24_Channel_Renard_without)

Renard24 LV 1.0 BOM (http://christmasinshirley.com/wiki/index.php?title=24_Channel_Renard_without#BOM)

Renard Forum (http://http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=34)




(Please fill out and paste the following in the PayPal Comments Section -
this is to allow me to keep track of the orders better)

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Ren 24 LV Co-Op #1

Forum User Name:

Shipping Information:

Name:
Address:
City:
State:
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Boards Ordered:

Is this a change to an existing purchase/Payment. Yes/No?
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Board Orders List that payment has been recieved for:



Ren24 LV Boards
Forum Name Boards
omzig 2
rstehle 2
jeffmillard 2
mrtinga 2
Buzzkill 2
jimk 2
Mikester 4
ben 4
Lizard050 2
Carl P Garrett 2
Ronald Maffei 3
sims101 2
joneslights 3
Lenc 5
John Moats 1




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[omzig]

I'll take 2, no PIC's

Thanks

[BuzzKill]

A couple of parts updates from the wiki BOM:

Use 571-1-390261-1 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=571-1-390261-1&bdprt=1&projectguid=da1deb3a-b988-4af5-91eb-074cded03509&projectid=1934332) for 571-3902611 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=390261-1virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-3902611) (RoHS)

And 571-41032390 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=4-103239-0virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-41032390) is a minimum 300 pieces.

Parts total is $30.38 (minus the 571-41032390)

[fkostyun]

Will get that corrected on both wiki's.

[rstehle]

A couple of parts updates from the wiki BOM:

Use 571-1-390261-1 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=571-1-390261-1&bdprt=1&projectguid=da1deb3a-b988-4af5-91eb-074cded03509&projectid=1934332) for 571-3902611 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=390261-1virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-3902611) (RoHS)

And 571-41032390 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=4-103239-0virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-41032390) is a minimum 300 pieces. (40 pin breakaway header)



You can use this 40 Pin breakaway header instead: 571-9-146281-0

[BuzzKill]

Put me down for 2 please. It may also help those that have not been following along what this board is for. You hinted at it in your description.

This board is a matched "brother/sister/whatever" to the existing REN24. It is the same board accept the SSR's are now off-board in the form of the co-op SSR boards that many already have for thier 595's. The zero-cross detection and power supply is all on board. No external power or ZC detection is needed. These are designed to fit the CG-1000 9x9 boxes from yourbroadbandstore.com. This design lets you break your SSR boxes out to a more localized 24 channel controller within your display instead of running 16 CAT 5's back to a single 595 or REN64. And with a 232-485 adapter, you can daisy chain up to 6 boards throughout the display and have shorter runs of Cat 5 to your SSR's. (About 144 channels per serial port at 100ms intervals in Vixen)

If you purchased REN24's on the last Co-Op and also the parts co-op you probably were double PIC'd. You received PICs with the boards and in the parts kits.

[jimk]

I'd be interested in 2 boards.

Thanks very much,
JimK

[joneslights]

I'd like 2 as well.

[Jeff Millard]

2 for me Frank. You have PayPal...

Jeff

[rstehle]

2 for me as well. Frank, I sent you a PM.

[mrtinga]

Could this board control MR16 led floods? If so how many would I need for 20 MR16s?

[rstehle]

Could this board control MR16 led floods? If so how many would I need for 20 MR16s?

Mr.T., yes, this the one!! You only need one controller for 20 MR16's. You will have to use external SSR's with this controller. You can use either AC or DC SSR's. You can get either of the boards from wJohn. If you want to use DC, you will need a DC power supply to power the bulbs. Here is a link for some inexpensive ones for sale on eBay. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=200234646830&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=010
or you can use an old PC power supply.
If you want to use AC, you can use a landscape lighting transformer (with AC SSR's). Hope this helps.
Randy

[joneslights]

Can we also use Wall-warts, or do they not hold enough amps. I have a few left over from phones.

[fkostyun]

there WILL be a connector on the board for wall-warts. I am in the process of increasing the size of the traces to the ULN2803s for external power source.

[ben]

I will take 5 of them paypal coming Monday :)

Ben

[joneslights]

Did I pay? I don't remember...

[Mikester]

Payment sent for 4 LV Boards

Thanks

Mike

[joneslights]

payment sent for 3.

[ben]

Paypal for 4 sent

Ben

[lizard050]

please put me in for 2 boards also. I also orderd ren 24 boards can u ship together??

[Santacarl]

PP sent for 2...almost forgot....:lol:

[ukewarrior]

-removed due to posting to wrong message.

[maffeirw]

Paypal Payment sent for
3 - Ren 24 PCBs
3 - Ren 24 LV PCBs
4 - PIC Sets
I combined the shipping for both COOPs to $5.50. If this is a problem e-mail me and I will paypal additional funds.

I will duplicate this message in the Ren 24 Coop
Thanks for running this coop It comes at the perfect time.

[fkostyun]

Will update purchase list tonight!

Updated time do to an awaiting mouser order for parts fitment check.

[fkostyun]

Also, shipment combining is fine for both orders to a max of 10 total boards.

[fkostyun]

List is updated!

[rstehle]

Frank, as I understand it, you are going to build out one of these first to make sure that they operate correctly, etc., is that right?

[joneslights]

Frank,

Didn't see my name on the list. Want to make sure you got $

[fkostyun]

Got it corrected - had your name on the ren24 coop list - not the lv list.

[RavingLunatic]

I'm in for 1

[fkostyun]

Order info is updated. If there are ANY errors on my part please notify me IMMEDIATLY so I can contact the board company to update the totals in an emergency.

At this point the co-op is considered closed.

[fkostyun]

Right now ETA of boards to me is Oct 2. There has been a few small changes that needed to be made for manufacturering that took some time to sort out.

[fkostyun]

New ETA on the PCB's - and this time its a GOOD ETA!!!

Shipment will arrive TOMMOROW! and PICs are arriving on Friday!

I did order extra Ren24's this time and have put them up in a web shop.

http://store.kostyun.com/prestashop/product.php?id_product=27

[fkostyun]

Here's a little sneak peak!!!

http://gallery.kostyun.com/video/2008video/ren_dc_test.wmv

[ben]

Loooking good Frank!!! ARe you goingto ship the rders without any PIC's first? (pretty please :) )

Ben

[fkostyun]

the PIC's are now in - so its not going to really matter. There's on "tiny" error on the board - which I will be correcting (IE I need to dremel a trace on all the co-op boards - but its a quick fix)

[ben]

the PIC's are now in - so its not going to really matter. There's on "tiny" error on the board - which I will be correcting (IE I need to dremel a trace on all the co-op boards - but its a quick fix)

Cool deal! Too bad you need to fix every board, did you ever get rid of that wrist pain? If not, I can deffinitally see this taking a toll :(

Ben

[rstehle]

Yay, got shipping information today! Thanks Frank.

[fkostyun]

Cool deal! Too bad you need to fix every board, did you ever get rid of that wrist pain? If not, I can deffinitally see this taking a toll :(

Ben

Pain in the wrist pain? Not really - lately I can barely move my fingers at all - but - I manage. Yesterday I had it put in a vise (and then cranked down) for about 20 minutes... that was a whole new bundle of joy. (This was for a MRI) Back to the doc's (again) next week - and hopefully they'll have some news (bad or good) for me.

[rstehle]

Frank, I received my Ren 24 LV boards today, (Thanks!), and have one of them almost put together. I have run into a small snag. The board image that you have posted, along with the BOM, show 1 - 10 uf cap. The board I received has places for 2 of them. Are they both required? (if so, can a 100 uf cap be substituted?) One more question. What is the correct setting for the jumpers located near the SSR outputs if you want to run SSR's?
Thanks,
Randy

[fkostyun]

The caps are just there for power smoothing - I reccommend 1 but more and bigger is fine too!

As far as using for SSRs - you won't need any jumpers, or in the OFF position.

I will get up a note tonight about the outputs 5 to 12

[rstehle]

Frank, you were going to post something about the outputs for channels 5 - 12. Have you had a chance to work on that yet? (I have my board completed and want to do some testing)
Thanks,
Randy

[fkostyun]

Attached is the image of the board and where the two points that need to be soldered to:

http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=2148&stc=1&d=1223316298

[rstehle]

Put in the two jumpers, hooked up DC SSR's, fired it up and it works great!! All 24 channels dim and blink as desired!!
One thing I have a question about though....... When the unit is powered on, all 4 of the Red LED's are on full bright (green power light on too), and dim as Vixen sends commands for the lights to be on. Red LED's are off when lights are on full bright. Is this the intended mode of operation? Do I have something hooked up wrong?
Thanks,
Randy

[fkostyun]

I thought I'd mentioned that before but - maybe I just thought about it - the diag led's will operate in REVERSE of the outputs.

[BuzzKill]

BOM Update - The 8 pin PCB mount Top Entry RJ45 jack should be - mouser 571-5556416-1

[BuzzKill]

BOM update - The shunt is is 4500 minimum order, so use 571-3828118 (https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=382811-8virtualkey57100000virtualkey571-3828118) instead.

[BuzzKill]

BOM Update - The 3FD-320 transformer is back ordered until mid-October. So if you are willing to wait the 2 weeks or are using external power, no problem. Otherwise use the 3FD-420 optional transformer as shown in the BOM.

[rstehle]

BOM in Wiki updated. Thanks!

[ben]

I still have not recieved anything, should I be worried?! :(

Ben

[fkostyun]

ben, last orders went out yesterday - so most should get their orders tommorow.

[ben]

ben, last orders went out yesterday - so most should get their orders tommorow.

Ok, didn't know if I was supposed to see something. Can't wait :)

Ben

[Mudsculpter]

<<Gasp>>,......

??? What the ???,..... They're BLUE...

Mine came in today,... speedy delivery as usual. Its just lovely... thanks

[joneslights]

<<Gasp>>,......

??? What the ???,..... They're BLUE...

Mine came in today,... speedy delivery as usual. Its just lovely... thanks

Ain't they purdy?

[ben]

Got it :D I am happy, thank you !!!

Ben

[fkostyun]

<<Gasp>>,......

They're BLUE...



There black at night!

[fkostyun]

Just a reminder that I do have some boards left from the last co-op.