Group Purchase for Xmus/Ren16 Parts

[moneyhunter]

UPDATE: we succeeded in getting over 50 orders and the order has been placed.

Hello everyone,

I'm looking into buying all the needed parts to populate the Xmus/Ren16 boards that I will be purchasing through the current coop. However, as you know, sometimes the best prices are achieved through price breaks. I've done a lot of number crunching (that's the accountant in me) and figure that purchasing parts to populate 50 Ren16 boards will give a significant price break through Mouser. However, all I would need is enough for 10 boards. So what I would like to do is offer other members to get in on this group purchase for the remaining 40. In no way am I planning on running a coop! I am not trying to negotiate a better price or buying tens of thousands of parts. All I want to do is get together with a few DIYC friends and make a simple purchase through Mouser to get the price break. So with that in mind here are the specifics that I have come up with:

Why am I doing this:

1. Obviously for the cost savings.
2. As with a lot of other DIYC members, this is my (our) first time in making our own boards and populating them. Even with 9 months to go to do our Christmas displays there is a lot to do and I would like to have all my Ren16’s ready to go.
3. I have a good feeling that once everyone starts receiving their boards; Mouser is going to be out of stock of some parts rather quickly. So I’m just trying to get ahead of the game rather than wait for Mouser to restock.
4. I am not doing this to compete with JaysonH’s coop. Please feel free to check out his coop if you feel he can get the parts cheaper. As for myself, I am too antsy to wait months for my parts and want to get the ball rolling ASAP.

Cost savings:

1. As previously stated, through price breaks we can achieve some good savings. I am estimating that we can save at least $17.50 to $20.75 on parts per board. The amount of the savings depends on shipping due to your location. Please see the attached .pdf files that show my calculations and price breaks.
2. Using Xmus’s BOM, I come up with a total of $49.63 to populate one board (not including shipping). Getting a price break the cost would be $33.24 per board (not including shipping).

What’s included:

1. All required parts are included as well as all optional parts that Xmus has listed on his list. The second optional parts section (such as standoffs, thermal paste, etc.) are not included.
2. As can be seen on the attached .pdf’s some parts have replaced the original ones as listed by Xmus. (These are properly identified.) Rest assured that all replacement parts have been verified on DIYC as compatible. (This might not be the right time for you to purchase the parts sets if you don’t feel comfortable with this.)
3. Remember this DOES NOT INCLUDE THE PCB. You must purchase these from Xmus/Wjohns current coop.

How will it work:

1. Basically if I have enough people interested I will make the group purchase of parts for 50 boards. I will pay for it (via credit card) and have it shipped to my place of work to get the cheaper commercial rate shipping.
2. Based on what Mouser charges for shipping I will add it to the cost of the parts. As can be seen on the attached pdfs I have an estimate of about .42 for each set of parts.
3. After I receive the parts, I will separate them and mail them to you via priority mail in one box. This could range anywhere between $4.60 and up depending on weight within the continental US.
4. I am only willing to ship to US residents. (I do not mean to offended anyone by this, so please accept my apologizes.)

How many can you buy:

1. You can buy as many as you want, but keep in mind, the more you buy the better the price because of shipping. I would prefer selling four or more part sets per person to keep my workload down (I am a daddy to toddler twins after all!), but this isn’t set in stone.
2. Look into this quickly as it will only take a few people who purchase 8 or 10 sets at a time to make it go quickly.

Payment:

1. I can accept Paypal through my personal account. (Sorry, I cannot accept credit card payments, as I do not have a premier account.)
2. Money order, postal money order, or cashier’s check.
3. As a do it yourselfer, I know the importance of trying to keep costs down. So yes I will accept personal checks. However, I will be verifying funds and will have a 12-day hold put on the check after I receive it to make sure that the check clears. (I work at a financial institution so verifying funds and placing holds won’t be a problem for me.) I will only accept checks drawn on a USA bank. Paying by personal check will obviously delay the shipping of your part sets.
4. I will expect payment of all sets prior to shipping. I will email everyone of what their total cost will be after separating the parts and packaging them.

Am I trustworthy:

1. I understand any hesitation that someone has from joining this group purchase since they do not know me. I’m a skeptical person myself. I do work for a financial institution so my honesty has to be in check. I am also a seller on Ebay. (Haven’t done much within the last 1 ½ years due to daddy duty.) I have a feedback rating of close to 500. So if anyone would like to read my feedback comments I would be happy to PM you the information.
2. I will be happy to answer any of your questions, so just send me a PM.

What to do next:
1. Understand the above terms.
2. Download the attached .pdf’s and review the information.
3. PM or post on this thread if you don’t understand something.
4. Understand that I do not express or imply any warranties. I am not responsible if the parts do not work. Also, DIYC or Macrosill are not responsible and take no responsibility for this group purchase.
5. PM or post on this thread how many sets you are committing to buy.
6. Watch for updates on this thread.

I know this group purchase can be successful! I am hoping we can get it done as soon as possible so lets get rolling! Thanks!

moneyhunter



COMMITTED TO PURCHASE:

moneyhunter - 10 PAID Shipped
rstehle - 16 PAID Shipped
MarkL - 4 PAID Shipped
alwysrit2 - 6 PAID Shipped
BillAd - 5 PAID Shipped
WWNF911 - 8 PAID Shipped
dhavard - 5 PAID Shipped

[Macrosill]

I think this is a great way to run a coop. A small quick order keeps things moving. If I needed ren16 parts I would join in for sure.

[P. Short]

I haven't read everything in this message, and I am not vouching for rstehle, but in general it strikes me that small coop buy is a better way to do things than a huge coops. It is faster, easier for one person to handle, and just not as subject to difficulties as a big one.

One thing that you might want to do is switch the triac to a more sensitive part, like the BTA08-400TW or BTA08-400SW. This part should work better with LED strings, based on what Macrosill found and based on a small amount of testing by myself. If cost is an issue here, you might want to consider something like the 511-BTA04-400T, which is a more sensitive 4A part that approaches the price of the BTA08-400B (8A is more current than the traces on the PCB are designed for).

--

Phil

[moneyhunter]

Thank you Macrosill and P. Short for your replies.

I did look into the parts that P. Short has mentioned. Changing the triacs to a BTA08-400TW would increase the cost by $38.24 per set for a total of $72.16/parts set. I think this may be out of the range for a lot of people trying to build the Ren16 at an affordable price. I checked into the other part numbers, but Mouser does not stock them.

Xmus has also stated in his instructional manual not to exceed 1A without a good heat sink...here is the excerpt from his manual:

The triacs appear (From the experiments of those who do this regularly) good for up to 1A without a heat sink. And it seems reasonable that you might be able to get up to 3 or 4 A (each channel) with a good heat sink. I think someone (me?) will need to sit down and run a duration experiment until one of these things explodes, only then will we know the true maximum limit. For now, the parts list will ship with a 5A fuse (5mm x 20mm common glass tube type), and you can make your own decision about how to handle the power issue.

So with that, I will leave the parts as is but will add that if any DIYC member wishes to use LED strings with their Xmus/Ren16's, that they may not want to participate in this group buy and heed P. Short's recommendations.

Thanks again!

[alwysrit2]

hi Money,
This fits much better in my schedule, at least for getting started with the Ren16's than the big Coop. Count me in for 6.
Do you have a deadline in mind for either placing the order or giving up on the idea?
Thanks
-Don

[moneyhunter]

Don, I have no deadline in mind at this point. My intention is to place the order as soon as all 50 sets are committed to. I would also like a few "backup buyers" who would be interested in buying some sets just in case someone backs out after the purchase or does not pay. That way I am not scrambling to find more buyers or left holding hundreds of dollars of unneeded parts.

If the past few hours is any indication, it looks like there is high interest in people wanting to participate. So if this continues, who knows, maybe I can make the purchase by the beginning of next week.

[P. Short]

Looks like I was typing too fast, and it looks like mouser provided a subsitute number.

Better part numbers from mouser are:

One 8A part is the mouser p/n 511-BTA08-700TW, which costs $.64 in quantity 500. There are 1700+ in stock, but with a huge lead time, so this is not a long-term sub.

The 4A part could be mouser p/n 511-BTA04-400T, which costs $.42 in quantity 500. Again, there is only enough in stock (1600+) for a one-time coop.

--

Phil

[moneyhunter]

As suggested from Phil above, I have replaced the original triac with the following triac 511-BTA04-700T. (I realize his post says p/n 511-BTA04-400T, but it was a mistype as confirmed by Phil himself.) As noted by Phil, these triacs are better suited for LED strings. Thanks Phil for all your input!!

[ppohlman]

I have seen some threads talking about buying some of the parts from Jameco instead of mouser for a larger discount. The parts I've found that are a lot cheaper are the triacs (140425), IC sockets (683091, 683104 & 526192), and the PIC16F688 (312611PS). The MOC3023 (277819) is also a little cheaper.

Has anyone looked at/used those parts from Jameco and are they interchangeable parts?

If so, buying some parts from Jameco would bring the price down significantly!! Just thought I'd throw that out there since you're trying to decrease costs.

[moneyhunter]

ppohlman, unfortunately, Jameco does not carry all the parts to fill the parts list. I understand that some parts may be cheaper at Jameco but to place two large parts orders at two different places could cost a lot in shipping. This would probably negate some of the savings you were trying to achieve by shopping at two places to begin with. Also, speaking for myself, since I'm new to animated lighting, I would prefer not to drift to far from the original parts list.

[ppohlman]

I understand your concern. I'm fairly new as well. That's why I asked the question as to how those parts have acted for others. Anyone?? Specifically the Triac, PIC, and MOC3023??

As for shipping, Jameco charges $5.95 for 1st lb., $1.69 for each additional lb., for USPS Priority Mail. That is much less than the savings in my situation. Just for the Triacs alone (150 of them) there is a savings of roughly $50, and possibly even more for larger orders.

You can do whatever you feel is best, I was only trying to help you out on reducing your costs. No hard feelings.

[moneyhunter]

No hard feelings at all ppohlman. Everyone's input is appreciated!

[ppohlman]

After digging through several old threads, I was able to answer my own questions about the replaceablility/difference of the Jameco vs. Mouser parts. Thought I'd just post them here so others might not have to search as much as I did.

http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1734
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=753
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=376
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=389

Sorry for kind of highjacking your thread, moneyhunter. I'll let it get back to your original intension.


JOIN THIS MINI-COOP FOR CHEAPER PRICES!!

[rstehle]

Moneyhunter,
Just checking in to see how it's going. Have many folks contacted you about this group buy?

[moneyhunter]

rstehle, so far so good. We just have 9 more left to go! The response has been good. Hopefully, I'll be able to place the order by the beginning of next week. Just look at my first post and at the very bottom of it are all the people who have committed to buying the Xmus/Ren16 parts kits!

Their going fast...get them while you can!

[WWNF911]

Please count me in for 8 parts kits.

Thanks for doing this moneyhunter.

Leon

[moneyhunter]

After WWNF911's commitment for 8, we are now down to only 1 left!! However, if someone wants more than just 1, I have no problem adding a few extra to the order.

[dhavard]

I would like enough to populate 5 boards. Let me know what the price looks like once you get everything together. If I can save $20-30 per board that would be wonderful. Thanks for putting this together.

Thanks,
dhavard

[moneyhunter]

Success! We exceeded the required 50 and the order will be placed shortly. Stay tuned for further updates!

[WWNF911]

2. Using Xmus’s BOM, I come up with a total of $49.42 to populate one board (not including shipping). Getting a price break the cost would be $32.96 per board (not including shipping).
***since updated to 33.24 per board***


I would like enough to populate 5 boards. Let me know what the price looks like once you get everything together. If I can save $20-30 per board that would be wonderful. Thanks for putting this together.

Thanks,
dhavard

FYI dharvard. (Not quite 20-30 per board) just FYI :)

[CP1]

Success! We exceeded the required 50 and the order will be placed shortly. Stay tuned for further updates!
Money,
Stupid question here..... Im working on 2 Ren 24's, I originally started to go with 3 Ren 16's. Both ways being a total of 48 channels, would it be possible to order 3 Ren 16 parts kits to populate the 2 Ren24's? If so is it still possible to get in on this order and would I need any additional parts?
Sorry but a total newbie here as I had gone D-Light 16 last year

[WWNF911]

Money,
Stupid question here..... Im working on 2 Ren 24's, I originally started to go with 3 Ren 16's. Both ways being a total of 48 channels, would it be possible to order 3 Ren 16 parts kits to populate the 2 Ren24's? If so is it still possible to get in on this order and would I need any additional parts?
Sorry but a total newbie here as I had gone D-Light 16 last year

Well CP1, let me start by 1st saying welcome.

Unfortunately these BOM's (Build of Materials) are most likely different and you won't be able to do that. That being said this is an excellent opportunity for you to get an intro to the Wiki. (Sorry if you already know about it) Checkout the following links:

Wiki Mainpage (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)
Renard Mainpage (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=Renard_Main_Page)
The Wiki has a link to Xmus' Website (Ren16 page) where the BOM is listed as 16CPicDimmedSSR_Parts_List_Rev1.9.xls (http://www.ritzfam.com/xmus/index.html)
Ren24 Mainpage where BOM can be found (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=24_Channel_Renard_with_SSR_Assembl y_Instructions#BOM)

[rjoatman]

Hi Money

I see that I may have missed out on your original 50 Coop, but I am looking for parts to fill 13 REN 16's.

Is there a chance I can still join in?

If so put me down for 13 sets

Thanks

[ben]

I just decided to run my own, if anyone needs Ren16 parts see my other COOP thread.

Ben

[dhavard]

***since updated to 33.24 per board***



FYI dharvard. (Not quite 20-30 per board) just FYI :)

NOt a problem. I do see that it has changed a bit but still a great savings IMO. I had already purchased enough to populate 1 board and it was almost double, so I am looking forward to this coop. THanks!

[Mufassa]

I would also be interested in 8. I know you said you have all you need but if there is room or alternate alternate (I saw someone already asked) Let me know.

--Greg

[moneyhunter]

rjoatman and Mufassa, unfortunately, the order has been placed. We are due to receive the parts shortly. However, I will put both of you on the alternate list just in case some of the members back out. Although eveyone is pretty excited about getting their orders, so I do think it is a long shot. I do know that ben has started another coop. Not sure how his is going to work or what the costs will be, but you might want to check his out.

[moneyhunter]

To date, I must say that this group buy (mini coop) has been successful. I have not received the parts yet, but I should have them in hand by mid-week and hopefully distributed to the committed buyers by the begining of next week. So a 2 1/2 week turnaround with a possible average savings of about $20.00 per parts set isn't to shabby!

Since the order closed, I have received several other requests through posts and PM's for more part sets. I make no promises, but if this one does go through without a hitch to the end, I may decided to do another one soon after. I'll keep everyone posted till then.

[rjoatman]

Moneyhunter
Thanks for including me as an alternate, but I want to get my parts on the way so I've joined another COOP.
So I no longer need the 13 Ren 16's from you.
Thanks again
Bob

[WWNF911]

Hey Money,
Just curious what you'll be doing for shipping? Would you consider USPS flat rate if its cheaper for some of us that have a lot? If thats too much trouble dis-regard. :)

[moneyhunter]

Hey WWNF911,

Yes, I said I would send it Priority mail, but if it is cheaper for you at flat rate, I will definitely do that for you. I already have a scale and US Postal account (because of my eBay selling), so figuring out the difference for you will be a matter of seconds. Anyway, all the packages are going to be dropped off at the same building, right... ;)

[WWNF911]

Hey WWNF911,

Yes, I said I would send it Priority mail, but if it is cheaper for you at flat rate, I will definitely do that for you. I already have a scale and US Postal account (because of my eBay selling), so figuring out the difference for you will be a matter of seconds. Anyway, all the packages are going to be dropped off at the same building, right... ;)

Thanks Moneyhunter.

Sorry but I got the 2 coops I'm in mixed up and this is the smaller order of the two. Please disregard and allow me to say I trust your judgement. Please stick with your formula and yes,.. all same building. :)

Thanks again

Leon

[rstehle]

Wanted to let folks know that I received my parts from Moneyhunter for the Ren16 Group Purchase.
All I can say is OUTSTANDING JOB!!!
Super well packed, super well identified, 100% accurate!! You can count me in on any of your group buys in the future!!!!

Thanks so much for taking this on. I can't imagine the time, organization and patience it must take to sort, label and pack all the parts. You did yourself proud!!!

Randy

[Macrosill]

Wanted to let folks know that I received my parts from Moneyhunter for the Ren16 Group Purchase.
All I can say is OUTSTANDING JOB!!!
Super well packed, super well identified, 100% accurate!! You can count me in on any of your group buys in the future!!!!

Thanks so much for taking this on. I can't imagine the time, organization and patience it must take to sort, label and pack all the parts. You did yourself proud!!!

Randy
Less than 3 weeks from inception delivery. Nice Job !!!

[WWNF911]

Wanted to let folks know that I received my parts from Moneyhunter for the Ren16 Group Purchase.
All I can say is OUTSTANDING JOB!!!
Super well packed, super well identified, 100% accurate!! You can count me in on any of your group buys in the future!!!!

Thanks so much for taking this on. I can't imagine the time, organization and patience it must take to sort, label and pack all the parts. You did yourself proud!!!

Randy

Mine came today too! ;)

I'll third the OUTSTANDING JOB!!!

Now,... how in the world did I get my parts before my boards John? :confused:

:lol:

Leon
================================================== ==================
UPDATE:***3/20/08***

Andy,

I finally had a chance to sit down, inventory and make sure I have everything.

I have a new found respect for anyone who organizes a CO-OP!!!

Unfortunately I found lots of mistakes,.....
But all of them were mine.--------------------:oops: :lol::lol::lol:

PERFECT!

Thanks again!

Leon

[kmc123]

Wanted to let folks know that I received my parts from Moneyhunter for the Ren16 Group Purchase.
All I can say is OUTSTANDING JOB!!!
Super well packed, super well identified, 100% accurate!! You can count me in on any of your group buys in the future!!!!

Thanks so much for taking this on. I can't imagine the time, organization and patience it must take to sort, label and pack all the parts. You did yourself proud!!!

Randy

"super well identified" - I didn't even think about that - The co op organizer gets a bagfull of parts, then has to divide them up, and make labels to tell everyone else what parts are what - WOW!

When you are used to odrering for yourself, you totally don't think about things like that!

It's amazing what you co op organizers do for everyone -Thanks!

[shocker]

seam like i have miss that coop ;)

[MarkL]

Andrew,

Outstanding! I received my parts today - a meager three business days after I paid for them. After being involved (to the end) in the debacle of last year I must say you've done a truly outstanding job.

Mark

[dhavard]

Received my parts yesterday and all I can say is "EXCELLENT JOB"!!! The parts were well marked and easy to identify. They were also packaged great!! Nice job moneyhunter!!!!

[moneyhunter]

Thank you all for the kind remarks! I’m glad I was able to put this together for all of us to save a little time and money.

kmc123, yes labeling the parts definitely added to the amount of time I spent separating out the parts. But when I thought about it, I didn’t think it was really fair to throw everything into one package and have the buyer try to figure out what part was what. I know that I wouldn’t want to receive my parts that way, so yes, I did take the time to print out labels and then bag all the individual parts separately and label them.

There were close to 7,100 parts in this group buy for 54 Xmus/Ren16 boards. It took about 15 hours from start to completion of the group buy. This included organizing/researching the group buy, ordering the parts, separating them, bagging them, labeling them, packing them, driving to the post office and communicating with the buyers. I realize I could have taken a lot of short cuts in bagging/labeling/packing the parts but again, people paid good money for these parts and deserve to receive them the same way I would expect to receive them. For example, all the triacs, pics, sockets, optos, and other parts were packaged in anti-static plastic tubing. I could have just removed them all and placed them in bags, but I wanted to make sure that the pins wouldn’t get bent and were protected from static. So I removed them all, cut the tubes to the lengths I needed and then reinserted the parts. Time consuming? Yes, but well worth the comfort knowing they would make it to the buyer intact.

After the third night of separating the parts, my wife asked if it was all worth it. I told her “yes”! As a member of the DIYC community, I just wanted to do my part. I’m good with numbers (the accountant in me) and I have many years of experience of selling on eBay, so why not use these “skills” to help others out within the community. Isn’t that what a community is all about? We have people who develop all these wonderful boards, people who run a website/forum for us to gather and share, people who answer questions and share pointers, and many others. Together we are all trying to do our part to make this community the best it can be.

My wife also asked if I would do it again. Again, I answered her “yes”. (If Brian’s coop rules allow that is :) ) If I can save 6 more people some money, then I would be glad to do it. I’m hoping I proved my worth and look forward to sharing with everyone here in the months to come!

[alwysrit2]

WAHOOO! I got my box, opened it up and found almost 800 parts! So exciting...Now all I need are the boards and a couple of weeks at the soldiering station
Great Job Money!
-Don

[BillAd]

Andy,

I received my parts today! I am totally amazed at the time and effort you took to label, verify, and package the content. This is by far the most impressive parts shipment that I have received, ever! Thank-you for running this coop and I’m really glad that you have become a member of this forum!

Bill

[Slick1983]

!!!!!!!!!! I'm embarressed to admit I let this pass me by because I thought I had already joined a COOP for parts, but hadn't.
Are you plannning on beginning another?
Thanks

[WWNF911]

!!!!!!!!!! I'm embarressed to admit I let this pass me by because I thought I had already joined a COOP for parts, but hadn't.
Are you plannning on beginning another?
Thanks

Unfortunately no slick sorry. Please read This from elsewhere in the forum:

Im not trying to be smart or anything here guys and ladies, but i have a slight minor problem with rule number 3

3. All Group Buy Organizers must be an active member of DIYC for at least 1 year

Can anyone please tell me when DIYC started? I looked through the member list and Brian (Macrosill) is the original founding member:

Macrosill
Administrator 05-26-2007

To my understanding, technically no-one is allowed to start another CO-OP until 26/05/08??


graeme


You are correct!

Additionally the following thread links are listed for your info:

http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?p=26248#post26248

http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2919

Leon

[moneyhunter]

Ummmm...as WWNF911 pointed out, I will not be doing any group buys in the near future. What he's referring to is the fact that I've only been a "newbie" here for 3 months, so unfortunately I am not allowed to do any group buys for another 9 months. As for the other members who have PM'd me about another group buy, please let this serve as a notice also to them. Sorry to disappoint!

Hey, just think of all the free time I have now to make my mini trees, learn Vixen, solder controllers, buy more supplies.....how many days till Christmas?

moneyhunter

[Virtus]

240 days until the traditional light up, the Friday after Thanksgiving.

[Slick1983]

MoneyHunter
From the reception of your last buy, I'd suggest they grandfather you in...

[WWNF911]

MoneyHunter
From the reception of your last buy, I'd suggest they grandfather you in...

Respectfully Slick, now is not the time. The new rules have been posted and the word of the day is conform.

This is not a flame and I'm not trying to be rude. Just for now, we all need to carefully follow the new rules. (By the way, you are correct about moneyhunter. He did do a GREAT job. :cool:)

Leon

[Slick1983]

No offense taken. Actually, I tend to be too trusting (according to my wife, anyhow) and need the extra protection these rules give. So, I'm not complaining.

[dhavard]

this was a great co-op...now i just have to wait on my pcb's . i'm in the wjohn coop that was supposed to be closed as of feb 28th and we still don't have any invoices. i have asked for updates and all i am being told is be patient. i understand that it's a big order but i haven't heard anything in awhile. i am worried that i won't get my boards in time. the coop with money hunter started and ended with parts-in-hand VERY quick. was hoping it would be the same with with the pcb's. anyone else worried or know updates???

[WWNF911]

I'm waiting and in the same group for boards. I'm not sure where wjohn has been but I'm trying to be patient as well. Hopefully we'll hear something soon.

Leon

[Jeff Millard]

John has a job that takes him all around the world. He has stints of a couple weeks where he just can't get to his passion. The number of boards he has provided in the past, has on hand and is having manufactured for this design and others tells me he'll come through for you.
I realize this is just another "be patient" post... but... let's try not to worry. This type of thing stirred up Jayson's thread into a frenzy earlier this year, and he was dealing with a family tragedy. Please stick to the topic so we don't go down that path again.

Thanks,
Jeff

[WWNF911]

Thanks Jeff. Thats the tone I meant to use.

Leon

[dhavard]

I understand how things come up and trust me as I said in the other forum I am being "patient" and I am in no way wanting to stir anything up, i just wanted to get an idea of others opinions. and I felt that it was still on topic because in my post i was referring to how quick moneyhunter pulled through on this coop....and how the new rules prevent him from having another coop even though this one was very successful....thanks for all the replies. i am ready to get soldering :) i know it's hard to put the correct "tone of voice" into an email or forum post, so I hope it didn't get perceived as something I didn't mean. I run a forum myself and know how challenging that can be. Talk to you all later! I'm here to learn and have fun :)

[scorpia]

HI,

with the new ren-16 boards from WJOHN about to hit. does anyone have the list of parts you ended up ordering for this coop?

i would save myself and im guessing a few others some time and effort.

thanks

Peter

[ppohlman]

does anyone have the list of parts you ended up ordering for this coop?

Peter -

I used the BOM that I found through the wiki (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/wiki/index.php?title=16_Channel_Renard_with_SSRs). It gives you a link to XMUS's website (http://www.ritzfam.com/xmus/index.html) which contains assembly instructions, pictures, videos, and the BOM for the Ren16.

The only difference between his BOM and the one that I purchased is that I bought some of the parts from Jameco to cut some of the costs.
Here is a list of the parts (with PNs) that I bought from Jameco:
- Side Entry RJ45 Jack : 524461
- 6 Pin Socket : 683091
- Triacs : 140425
- MOC3023 : 277819
- 5 amp fuse : 103932
- 14 Pin Socket : 526192
- PIC 16F688 : 312611PS
- 8 Pin Socket : 683104

Hope this helps.

[moneyhunter]

HI,

with the new ren-16 boards from WJOHN about to hit. does anyone have the list of parts you ended up ordering for this coop?

i would save myself and im guessing a few others some time and effort.



scorpia,

I did the group buy on these parts in February and still have the list on my home computer. Please send me a PM with your email address and I'll send it over to you ASAP. Please note that there were about 3 or 4 part #'s that were different from Xmus's BOM, as the parts were discontinued or backordered. All are compatible and work fine!

moneyhunter