"44 project" - Low cost DMX Dimming for LEDS, constant current and constant voltage

[mrpackethead]

Hi,

Just thought you might be interested in a new project that i've been playing with recently.. Its called the '44' project. Its a community project, so its not commerical at all. 44 stands for 4 channels for 4 dollars. Theres four variants to the 44;

44CC - a 4 channel constant current ( up to 350mA per channel ) DMX dimmer
44CV - a 4 channel constant voltage ( up to 3A per channel ) DMX dimmer
44CCA and 44CVA - with dip switch for address selection.

Theres a few nice thigns in these, they have gamma correction built in so the dimming of leds in nice and smooth ( particaully at the low end ), they will operate between 7 and 40V DC, they will stack up, so you can create an 'n' x 4 channel dimmer, you can parrallel up channels to make higher power ouputs etc etc..

These will be made avaialble soon as panels of partially assembled pcb's, ( the controller IC is a fine pitched SMD )..

UPDATE: PCB panels will also be avaialable, so you can solder your own!! See post #24 below.

Anyway, the project is over at http://www.dec1.org/forums/index.php/board,25.0.html

[ukewarrior]

How soon is soon?

V E R Y E X C E L L E N T !

[mrpackethead]

hopefully going to run this up late July/Early August.

[dmoore]

These look pretty cool. I did some searching and found this:

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?15379-DMX-vs-WS2801/page4

http://www.youtube.com/user/MYSemi168#p/a/u/0/i3XeEEo5-AA

http://www.users.on.net/~avd/acl/MY9941_prelim.pdf

[daviddth]

These look pretty cool. I did some searching and found this:

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?15379-DMX-vs-WS2801/page4

http://www.youtube.com/user/MYSemi168#p/a/u/0/i3XeEEo5-AA

http://www.users.on.net/~avd/acl/MY9941_prelim.pdf

Yep there have been numerous ideas for this to be used, and MPH's controllers seem to be a good selection of constant current and voltage, and the big plus is these are going to be available soon!

[kychristmas]

So these would be used to create DMX Pixels? Sorry to be dense, but I was just getting confortable with the concept of RGB Pixels and now these come up. They would seem expensive based on my limited understanding, so I'm guessing I just don't understand. I tried reading on the project website, but it seems to start beyond my limited knowledge.

[smartalec]

So these would be used to create DMX Pixels? Sorry to be dense, but I was just getting confortable with the concept of RGB Pixels and now these come up. They would seem expensive based on my limited understanding, so I'm guessing I just don't understand. I tried reading on the project website, but it seems to start beyond my limited knowledge.

from what i gather you have a 44cva (that has the address pins) then you can plug multiples 44cv's onto it to make it a 4,8,12,16ch controller with a 3amp per channel
the 44cv = constant voltage
the 44cc = constant current
here is the link to a panel view http://www.dec1.org/forums/index.php/topic,34.0.html

Im sure MPH can explain way better than what i can

[dmoore]

So these would be used to create DMX Pixels? Sorry to be dense, but I was just getting confortable with the concept of RGB Pixels and now these come up. They would seem expensive based on my limited understanding, so I'm guessing I just don't understand. I tried reading on the project website, but it seems to start beyond my limited knowledge.

I'd say in the more traditional sense, pixels are not "DMX" but driven with some SPI interface (this would be the 6803s, 2801s, 180xs, etc), thus the bulk of the logic is at the "head end" of the string (which itself usually takes DMX as an input). For pixels it would be:

(E131) --> DMX --> Controller --> SPI Interface --> pixel chip-(RGB Light), pixel chip-(RGB Light), pixel chip-(RGB Light), pixel chip-(RGB Light), etc

In his solution and the solution I use with my products, it's nothing more than a chain of standard DMX controllers, so it would be:

(E131) --> DMX --> DMX Controller-(RGB Light+++), DMX Controller-(RGB Light+++), DMX Controller-(RGB Light+++), DMX Controller-(RGB Light+++), etc

The communications signal between DMX controllers is DMX, with pixels it would normally be some mfg specific protocol (again, 6803, 2801, etc).

Pros and cons of pixels are:
* Typically self-contained with the light and control pixel chip in one package
* 5v-12v (usually)
* Limited distances between pixels and controller (usually less than 15ft)
* Lower cost
* Limited current handling ability (usually 150ma per channel or less)

Pros and cons of "mini DMX controllers" are:
* Higher per channel current handling ability (up to several amps)
* Large distances between controllers (up to several hundred feet)
* Wide range of supported voltages
* Typically requires the addition of RGB lights
* Costs of 3-10 times more than compared to a single pixel (varies depending on mounting case, current carry, etc)

Where these types of controllers and other RGB controllers such at the $8 DMX controller are useful is in display elements that are seperated by distance, don't need pixel level control or need to be able to control lots of basic RGB LEDs all with the same colors. Examples would be RGB mini-trees, CoroStars, MegaBalls, candy canes, window frames, etc.

[kychristmas]

...Where these types of controllers and other RGB controllers such at the $8 DMX controller are useful is in display elements that are seperated by distance, don't need pixel level control or need to be able to control lots of basic RGB LEDs all with the same colors. Examples would be RGB mini-trees, CoroStars, MegaBalls, candy canes, window frames, etc.

I certainly thought of your stuff when I saw these. These would basically replace the 3 Channel boxes you sell with your items, right? We could hook up the various RGB modules or Non-Pixel strings/ribbons to these? I realize its just one of the uses.

I got confused becasue the only videos I saw were essentially pixels and I believe that was going to be very expensive.

[mrpackethead]

Yep there have been numerous ideas for this to be used, and MPH's controllers seem to be a good selection of constant current and voltage, and the big plus is these are going to be available soon!

I was'nt sure what THe point of the links to a dmx--2801 pixel controller, or a datasheet of a chip thats not in the 44 project was. Its not big secrect whats in the controllers. THe schematics are posted. Not hiding anything here. Yes, i'll have some pictures of some running ones soon enough for you all.

[mrpackethead]

So these would be used to create DMX Pixels? Sorry to be dense, but I was just getting confortable with the concept of RGB Pixels and now these come up. They would seem expensive based on my limited understanding, so I'm guessing I just don't understand. I tried reading on the project website, but it seems to start beyond my limited knowledge.

You could make pixels with these, but thats not what these are really designed for. These controllers are "similar" i guess in function to a Renard system, in that they will control a whole bunch of different thigns, including strips, strings, modules, etc etc. The use cases for them are wide and varied. I'm making a 'galaxy' of stars with mine. each 44 will be driving 15 RGB leds.

I've tryed to make them as flexible as possible, with flexiblity comes a little complexity.

[dirknerkle]

It's certainly a "catchy" name and concept, MPH! You're one clever guy!

On the down side for me is the SMD... I've spent several hours "practicing" and have come to the conclusion that (a) one can't solder what one can't see, and (b) even if one can see it with magnification, my old hands just aren't as steady as they need to be to be successful at it. :sad:

On the plus side, I can still pick up my soldering iron and instantly know if I've picked up the wrong end... :shock:

[mrpackethead]

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On the down side for me is the SMD... I've spent several hours "practicing" and have come to the conclusion that (a) one can't solder what one can't see, and (b) even if one can see it with magnification, my old hands just aren't as steady as they need to be to be successful at it. :sad:


Well, you'll be pleased to know that I've thought of you. The controller IC, the DIP switch and any 'fixed' components ( a couple of caps, and in the case of the CVA, and CV ), will come already soldered to the panel. The four ( or eight ) resistors which you need to add ( they set the current of the the circuit ) can be either standard through hole, or 0805 SMD. The pads have been provided for both.

If you look in the attached picture, at the CVA for example, you'll see R5- R8, which are located on the left hand side of the board. You'll see they are 'double' padded..

Its all about options, and trying to make it easy.

[dirknerkle]

Tremendous! Then there is HOPE!

[daviddth]

I certainly thought of your stuff when I saw these. These would basically replace the 3 Channel boxes you sell with your items, right? We could hook up the various RGB modules or Non-Pixel strings/ribbons to these? I realize its just one of the uses.

I got confused becasue the only videos I saw were essentially pixels and I believe that was going to be very expensive.

While I have not seen his 3 chan controllers, by the sounds of it they are another option, yes. Options are good, and that is where it helps everyone, and each item has its place. I still run renards, and actually one item has a stripboard 595 based controller in it for a specific reason. People dont always look at price, although that is one reason - if we all based things on Price LOR would be well and truely out of business, but they suit some people out there. dmoore's $8 controller is still pretty darn cheap - similar in price to the one wjohn designed last year for the floods (about $8 once built), and these are just another option for people.

I intend to drive 24V 5 wire, 4 color RGBW led strings from these, some 12v RGB strings of "pixels" (no chip, so they act like an RGB set of led's where they all do the same thing), and the CC versions will drive RGB LED's inside stars for a later project.

[mlkren]

I'm making a 'galaxy' of stars with mine. each 44 will be driving 15 RGB leds. What is 'galaxy' of stars if you don't mind be asking. Thanks

[mrpackethead]

"galaxy" - lots and lots and lots ( planning about 3000 ) plastic stars that are about 7 inches wide in a single display..

. Its a galaxy is'nt it? At least in blinky light terms

[mattrob]

"galaxy" - lots and lots and lots ( planning about 3000 ) plastic stars that are about 7 inches wide in a single display..

. Its a galaxy is'nt it? At least in blinky light terms

3000 stars! And I thought soldering 3000 legs on ledtriks LED's was bad!

[dmoore]

I certainly thought of your stuff when I saw these. These would basically replace the 3 Channel boxes you sell with your items, right? We could hook up the various RGB modules or Non-Pixel strings/ribbons to these? I realize its just one of the uses.

I got confused becasue the only videos I saw were essentially pixels and I believe that was going to be very expensive.

There are some differences between the "44" and the $8 DMX controller that may or may not matter depending on your needs:

* The "44" doesn't come with pre-attached leads+strain relief or mounting box like the $8 does
* "44" is dip switch addressed (as I seem to recall), thus you will have to maintain access to set the address
* The "44" is 350ma/ch vs 2amps/ch
* The "44" has an improved "lighting curve" over the $8 DMX controller (though they are still both only controlled with 8 bits)
* The "44" is CC vs CV for the $8 which may make it an easier or harder setup depending on your requirements
* The "44" requires assembly, the $8 one doesn't
* The $8 controller can be ordered any time from many vendors (US and China) without waiting for a co-op
* The "44" gives you one extra channel

One of the major things is how you mount/waterproof them, what access you have to them after installation and how many total LEDs you will be driving (and how they are wired).

It's great to have another option out there and just like all the other controllers, each has a specific market and need it fills. I'd recommend doing plenty of research to make sure that any controller you select meets ALL your needs because there are enough of them out there now not to be able to do so.

[LithgowLights]

* The "44" is 350ma/ch vs 2amps/ch


* The "44" is CC vs CV for the $8 which may make it an easier or harder setup depending on your requirements
* The "44" requires assembly, the $8 one doesn't


Just on these two points

The 44 is BOTH CV and CC, depending on the type you order. Edit: Oh and want a mix in one place - just add on more of the "daughter" boards in the type you want and the channel count of the controller just increases by 4 That alone increases flexibility massively

The 44 requires a few resistors to set the output EXACTLY how you want it. I might want 60mA CC here, and 24V DC there - select appropriate board, throw a couple of resistors on it because I, not MPH, not you, not the design, get to choose the setup.

Please try not to make your posts look like you are trashing another controller, as that is definately the way I see it, and many others do too.

The $8 controller of yours is nice and has its place. The 44 has its place too, so how about you leave it at that.

I personally will be ordering about 60 of the 44's, but no $8 controllers because of most of the reasons you mentioned above, as I see them as positives, not negatives. They are a different item to anything else out there and suit some installs which is why there were well over 2000 initial boards numbered in the first expressions of interest.

[budude]

Very nice project there MPH... Could I trouble you for the mounting hole dimensions (if you have that locked down)? I'd like to look at having these as an option for the flood I'm coming out with and having it mount to the back of it.

Thanks!

[mrpackethead]

Could I trouble you for the mounting hole dimensions (if you have that locked down)?


Sure, the board is 40 x 50mm, the holes are 3mm diameter and they are inset from the corners by 2.5mm. If your flood is going to have its own pcb though, have you considered just sticking the controller IC's etc on that board? would save you a lot of messing around..

[budude]

Sure, the board is 40 x 50mm, the holes are 3mm diameter and they are inset from the corners by 2.5mm. If your flood is going to have its own pcb though, have you considered just sticking the controller IC's etc on that board? would save you a lot of messing around..

OK - so 35 x 45mm would be the centerlines - thanks! Adding the components on the flood would be nice but I think I'll leave it separate for now so that folks can choose how they want to drive them.

[mrpackethead]

Hey, you know the 44 project is all about options and the ability to do things the way you want to.. And i've got to apologize that i might have forgotten how some people like to do projects. And this really is a community project with community values and all that, and mostly its about having choices.

So, a couple of other options for you, other than the semi-assembled panels. ( which is how many people want them ).

1. If you want to, attached below is a zip file, containing the gerber files which you can use to have your own pcbs made from. I can also give you eagle PCB files if you want. ( message me ), and you can vary them yourself to suit. So your completely able to do what you want, when you like. Modify them, change them, no constraints, or restrictions.. Its totally up to you.

2. I can make available the PCB's, and you can assemble your own. Smell the sweet fumes of solder flux ( please don't do it, its not good for you )..

3. Im not that keen to be counting hundreds of components out, and distributing them, however if someone else was, i'd work with them to supply the controller IC in bulk at my cost, as there are quite high MOQ's, however the project already is well past that.

I'll have a better idea of the PCB cost early next week.

Options, Options, Options.. Choices...

[kychristmas]

I definitely wasn't saying one was better than the other. Without experience with both (and I have it with neither) I would never do that. I'm DMX illitterate, so I'm just trying to understand how these might be used. Trust me, I love how you took the Ray Wu stuff (for lack of better term) and built instructions and implementation standards around it.


There are some differences between the "44" and the $8 DMX controller that may or may not matter depending on your needs:

* The "44" doesn't come with pre-attached leads+strain relief or mounting box like the $8 does
* "44" is dip switch addressed (as I seem to recall), thus you will have to maintain access to set the address
* The "44" is 350ma/ch vs 2amps/ch
* The "44" has an improved "lighting curve" over the $8 DMX controller (though they are still both only controlled with 8 bits)
* The "44" is CC vs CV for the $8 which may make it an easier or harder setup depending on your requirements
* The "44" requires assembly, the $8 one doesn't
* The $8 controller can be ordered any time from many vendors (US and China) without waiting for a co-op
* The "44" gives you one extra channel

One of the major things is how you mount/waterproof them, what access you have to them after installation and how many total LEDs you will be driving (and how they are wired).

It's great to have another option out there and just like all the other controllers, each has a specific market and need it fills. I'd recommend doing plenty of research to make sure that any controller you select meets ALL your needs because there are enough of them out there now not to be able to do so.


....
Please try not to make your posts look like you are trashing another controller, as that is definately the way I see it, and many others do too.

The $8 controller of yours is nice and has its place. The 44 has its place too, so how about you leave it at that.
...

I'm very sensitive to neg. posts and I DID NOT read any "trashing" from dmoore's post. In fact, there's a few Positives listed. I drew the comparison and he further explained it.

[dirknerkle]

I look at this '44 project' in a similar light to the FTDI USB serial board that some other DIY projects use, or the XBee radio in my case for the Ren-W. The '44' is a sort of building block that can be integrated into other things. The concept of "4 channels for 4 dollars" is rather appealing, and the board options provide a rather flexible mix-and-match strategy for LED control. I like it!

[terrypowerz]

My goal in life is to have some of ALL of the different controllers...

Someone once wrote: "He who dies with the most toys...wins!"

;)

[n8huntsman]

...I DID NOT read any "trashing" from dmoore's post. In fact, there's a few Positives listed. I drew the comparison and he further explained it.
I'm glad I'm not the only one that felt that way. I found it very informative because I had the same question about the differences. Now I get it.

[Matt_Edwards]

One last comparison, MPH's 44 project is a Open Source Project and fits well with charter of this site. The "$8" specials from China/USA aren't open source.

Leave the trashing comparisons to other sites. ALL controllers have their place and that is what is SO cool about the hobby.

[P. Short]

Where is all this talk about trashing coming from?

[terrypowerz]

Where is all this talk about trashing coming from?

I have been known to... every once in a great while... amongst good friends... on a very special occasion... get trashed ;)

[dmoore]

One last comparison, MPH's 44 project is a Open Source Project and fits well with charter of this site. The "$8" specials from China/USA aren't open source.

While they are not open source, if the goal is to make great displays at the lowest possible price, I'd like to have all the knowledge of those options to me. To see this in action - just look at how many people are hand soldering individual pixel nodes/modules - sometimes non-DIY is cheaper and just as good or better.

I was in no way attempting to trash controllers - I was just answering the question.
Thanks!
david

[charleskerr]

One thing that may be a factor is what the controller does if no DMX is present. On the $8 controller, they go into a test pattern, that as far as I am aware can not be disabled. I don't know what the "44" controllers do.

For me, the test pattern is a pain, as I write my own software, and I have to ensure I have a dmx signal out my rs-485 in between show transistions (or even waiting for a show to come on). Yes, many dongles, put a constant dmx signal out, so I don't suppose it is an issue for many. But for some, it might be a consideration.

[mrpackethead]

One thing that may be a factor is what the controller does if no DMX is present. I don't know what the "44" controllers do.


The 44 will hold onto the last known values its got until it either is powered down, or it receives another valid value.

[macebobo]

I can't wait to see some of the neat things that get made with these. But, alas, budget is blown for this year. But these will be at the top of my list next year, if for nothing else than to be creative.

[dirknerkle]

The 44 will hold onto the last known values its got until it either is powered down, or it receives another valid value.

Would adding a button battery to hold the memory (kind of like CMOS in your computer) be a good addition? The thing can't draw too much current in a dormant state.

[mrpackethead]

Would adding a button battery to hold the memory (kind of like CMOS in your computer) be a good addition? The thing can't draw too much current in a dormant state.

Not sure why? They will hold their last known data untill they receive more.. Adding more parts though woudl significantly increase the price, and i can't see this one being worth it. Thanks for the input though.

[chesterspot]

@mrpackethead
Did you close the forums for non-registered users? Your link points to a log in screen.

[dmcole]

@mrpackethead
Did you close the forums for non-registered users? Your link points to a log in screen.

Yes, MPH changed the rules over at Dec1.org ... you must be a registered user even to browse.

\dmc

[mrpackethead]

yes, you need to register now to see many of the forums. Its easy, and we even let you register using your facebook or favorite soical networking account.

[dmoore]

Did these "44" controllers ever get built?

[dirknerkle]

Yes, they did, but I believe the decision was made not to release them to the general public.

[jstjohnz]

Maybe I'm just too cynical but it seems like this was mainly an attempt to build traffic at his web site. When that didn't materialize the project just went away. Somewhat ironically, one of the final posts was expressing disbelief that someone had actually had the nerve to question whether the project was "vaporware".

A bit like this thread: http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?11986-New-firmware-for-the-RPM-%28-and-variant-%29-dongles

"Ready in a few days" -> "It's done but I forgot where I put it" -> ...silence...

[dmoore]

Maybe I'm just too cynical but it seems like this was mainly an attempt to build traffic at his web site. When that didn't materialize the project just went away. Somewhat ironically, one of the final posts was expressing disbelief that someone had actually had the nerve to question whether the project was "vaporware".

"Ready in a few days" -> "It's done but I forgot where I put it" -> ...silence...

I had also purchased some boards from MPH and he indicated he would provide the firmware, but once I had the boards he wouldn't provide the firmware.

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?12781-Pixel-Node-PCB-s-sold

There does seem to be a pattern here.

[fathead45]

i contacted him on that too and he directed me to john who said he would get back with me. still waiting:(. really want to build the boards but with no firmware i just have coaster.

[mschell]

I, too, had a similar experience with their "T3" boards. I asked for firmware, and got the "give me a few days" response. Waited for a few months, and then pinged them again. Got updated firmware for my E16, but still no firmware for the T3's.

These guys are focused on their commercial business, and I know we all get busy, but the pattern is a little frustrating.

[dmoore]

i contacted him on that too and he directed me to john who said he would get back with me. still waiting:(. really want to build the boards but with no firmware i just have coaster.

I figured you would have better luck with getting the firmware than I would.

[timon]

Looks like this project is dead which is really too bad. Maybe if I can find the source of the chips I might design something. Anyone know a supplier at least for small quantity? Data sheets I have.

[dirknerkle]

Yah, it was a cool idea, and it worked. Andrew (mph) was using it anyway. But he ran into some issues with a couple folks that made it difficult and he decided not to release it.

Oh well...

[timon]

Do you know what the issues were? The manufacture sent me the full data sheets and app notes so one would assume they want to sell them.

[mrpackethead]

A couple of really ugly people who just have nothing better than to go ruining other peoples projects. It wasn't good that my motivations were not only questioned by that it was alleged it was some kind of commercial trap that i was setting up. I am amazed at those who bother to do such projects now, if they have to put up with the poor attitudes that some do.

My commercial clients who pay for work to be done, who have a right to be grumpy have never complained like some did. Foruantly the grumpiness pretty much wasn't here.

[smartalec]

A couple of really ugly people who just have nothing better than to go ruining other peoples projects. It wasn't good that my motivations were not only questioned by that it was alleged it was some kind of commercial trap that i was setting up. I am amazed at those who bother to do such projects now, if they have to put up with the poor attitudes that some do.

My commercial clients who pay for work to be done, who have a right to be grumpy have never complained like some did. Foruantly the grumpiness pretty much wasn't here.

Thats why when i make circuits i only use for myself, no-one needs to be put down or there design trashed.

So if we beg an say pritty please andrew, would you consider running the project for those of us that respect you?

[timon]

Andrew,

I agree with what smartalec said, just don't worry about the nay sayers. Please think aging about making boards available.

If someone wants to make money on their Hobby I have NO problem with that. It's not for others to criticize them for it.

Anyway, I've got some ideas that would work with this chip set series. I've got all of the data sheets and apps notes many sent from the manufacture but I don't have any sources for the chips. Any chance you could PM me some of your sources for them both for prototype and quantity amounts?

Thanks

John

[fathead45]

now andrew i have no issue with you at all or your company. from my stand point, i sold my t3 boards to alec b/c i didnt want to mess with them anymore. i spent 2 years trying to get firmware and even a bom with nothing to show. john was no help, sent numerous email to him etc with no help. so when alec finally said he thought about the t3 i sold him the boards. he got the firmware that i have spent 2 years trying to in a heartbeat. now alec gave it to me but at that point i wanted nothing to do with them anymore.

so my beef is if you offer diy boards which is great, please make sure the info is out there to build and get working. it was so frustrating for me to have 6 of these sitting here doing nothing b/c there was nothing out there for them to get working. so i hope you offer it, but just make sure people will have the means to build and get working.

[CaptKirk]

Can't we all just get along, for Gods sake? Well actually, for God birthday actually... :)

[mrpackethead]

now andrew i have no issue with you at all or your company. from my stand point, i sold my t3 boards to alec b/c i didnt want to mess with them anymore. i spent 2 years trying to get firmware and even a bom with nothing to show. john was no help, sent numerous email to him etc with no help. so when alec finally said he thought about the t3 i sold him the boards. he got the firmware that i have spent 2 years trying to in a heartbeat. now alec gave it to me but at that point i wanted nothing to do with them anymore.

so my beef is if you offer diy boards which is great, please make sure the info is out there to build and get working. it was so frustrating for me to have 6 of these sitting here doing nothing b/c there was nothing out there for them to get working. so i hope you offer it, but just make sure people will have the means to build and get working.


To set the record straight, the T3, was John Chapmans Design and Code. While i did have some involvement with trying to market it, i was never able to get the code released. I no longer work with John either.

[fathead45]

ok thanks for clearing that up andrew.

[fasteddy]

Im really wondering who these nay sayers were about your design, I thought it was such a fantastic idea that i created the 44 project reference sheet to help people understand it. It was a shame it never saw the light of day.

[mrpackethead]

Im really wondering who these nay sayers were about your design, I thought it was such a fantastic idea that i created the 44 project reference sheet to help people understand it. It was a shame it never saw the light of day.

mm, seems the trolls are hungry.

[budude]

maybe move this back to ACL - just doesn't belong here guys.....

[fasteddy]

mm, seems the trolls are hungry.


Please remove this post as once again it serves no purpose except to incite divisions and it goes against the DIYC rules.

[Wayne J]

MPH... fasteddy

Since you two cannot seem to stay away from each other, and warnings via PMs has not worked, I will say this publicly. Bans for BOTH of you will be the next step. I am positive everyone here has read enough of you two being at each other throats.
With that said, this IS the last warning you will receive.