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intwoit2002
06-10-2011, 03:33 PM
I can only assume that KC is very busy. I was just wondering if there was any news on the progress on the new version. Waiting very anxiously.
Thanks for any input.
Counting down.
dirknerkle
06-10-2011, 03:59 PM
The staff at DIGWDF has heard a rumour that the newest version has a built-in coffee maker plugin as well as the ability to remotely and somewhat automatically detect vandalism in the display. It's said that the "MR" module (MR=Mind Reading module) currently can automatically sense what you want to do with your lights and creates sequences on-the-fly directly off an FM-radio feed while simultaneously ordering your favorite pizza from your local pizza shack. However, there it's reported that there are some bugs in it insofar as it actually eats 40-60% of the pizza on its own, leaving an occasional dollop of pizza sauce on the keyboard... Beta versions of the software are available for downloading, but the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
BuzzKill
06-10-2011, 04:02 PM
The first rule of discussing the release of new versions of Vixen is that we don't discuss the release of new versions of Vixen. If and when it ever arrives we will be humbled and greatfull. We will give much thanks and praise. And the cycle will begin anew.
chilloutdocdoc
06-10-2011, 04:10 PM
The staff at DIGWDF has heard a rumour that the newest version has a built-in coffee maker plugin as well as the ability to remotely and somewhat automatically detect vandalism in the display. It's said that the "MR" module (MR=Mind Reading module) currently can automatically sense what you want to do with your lights and creates sequences on-the-fly directly off an FM-radio feed while simultaneously ordering your favorite pizza from your local pizza shack. However, there it's reported that there are some bugs in it insofar as it actually eats 40-60% of the pizza on its own, leaving an occasional dollop of pizza sauce on the keyboard... Beta versions of the software are available for downloading, but the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
LOL wow. great one.
As for news on the next version of Vixen: It will come out when KC is ready for it to come out. As for now, keep using 2.1 or 2.5 (personally i like 2.1) and be grateful for all of the work he has done for us already.
tweist
06-10-2011, 04:23 PM
The staff at DIGWDF has heard a rumour that the newest version has a built-in coffee maker plugin as well as the ability to remotely and somewhat automatically detect vandalism in the display. It's said that the "MR" module (MR=Mind Reading module) currently can automatically sense what you want to do with your lights and creates sequences on-the-fly directly off an FM-radio feed while simultaneously ordering your favorite pizza from your local pizza shack. However, there it's reported that there are some bugs in it insofar as it actually eats 40-60% of the pizza on its own, leaving an occasional dollop of pizza sauce on the keyboard... Beta versions of the software are available for downloading, but the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
Hey, I still have a TRS-80 with cassette tape drive, and it still works. Can't do much, but it is a great show piece for students learning about computers. Of course the 12" 800K hard disk and 8K core memory module also really show them how fast things change.
I don't know why I keep the stuff around. I guess I just can't bring myself to toss it.
Anyway, My TRS-80 is ready to test any new beta vixen software. Just make sure it is less than 20K in size.
:)
oldcqr
06-10-2011, 04:23 PM
the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
I have to dig my Mod 1 Level 1 4K machine out of the closet then!
a158946
06-10-2011, 04:25 PM
The staff at DIGWDF has heard a rumour that the newest version has a built-in coffee maker plugin as well as the ability to remotely and somewhat automatically detect vandalism in the display. It's said that the "MR" module (MR=Mind Reading module) currently can automatically sense what you want to do with your lights and creates sequences on-the-fly directly off an FM-radio feed while simultaneously ordering your favorite pizza from your local pizza shack. However, there it's reported that there are some bugs in it insofar as it actually eats 40-60% of the pizza on its own, leaving an occasional dollop of pizza sauce on the keyboard... Beta versions of the software are available for downloading, but the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
so, all I have to do is get a room ready for you, and an account on pizzahut.com, and you'll do everything for me? Who pays for the plane ticket?
budude
06-10-2011, 05:05 PM
At the risk of being flamed for sounding ungrateful (which ALWAYS happens when Vixen updates are discussed...) - I think it only fair that we know if the new version will be released this year. Many of us are moving up in channel counts and mixing in lots of RGB devices into the setups and it would be good to know if we can look forward to some new features in Vixen this year. If this is not the case then we can either live with it as-is or move on to LSP if that meets your needs. Several folks have already started their sequencing and many more will be soon and we can't wait forever for the next release.
Please spare me all the "why you ungrateful U#()@" - that is simply not the case - it's just a matter of providing a simple update on a product at the heart of everyone's display...
g2ktcf
06-10-2011, 05:21 PM
Okay...here is a tidbit as an appetizer. I just sat down with KC at Starbucks. He is actually driving back home right now to continue working on the user interface. It is his full intention to have Vixen 3.0 ready for this year. DO NOT STOP SEQUENCING!!! He will write a conversion routine for older versions as he always does. DO NOT DELAY SEQUENCING while waiting!!! Keep at it or you will never get done.
Just my 2 cents
ChiefWarrant
06-10-2011, 05:34 PM
but the software currently only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80. More information will be available as details are released...
Cool, I have been waiting for the TRS-80 release...will that also run on the Color Computer III?
chilloutdocdoc
06-10-2011, 05:35 PM
And why wasn't I invited for coffee?
+1 to do not stop sequencing, KC said he will have an update routine.
BuzzKill
06-10-2011, 05:37 PM
Please spare me all the "why you ungrateful U#()@" ...
No.
May your Amps = (Triac Nova Threshold) + 1
May your RGB lose the G
May your hard drive drop the sector where you just saved the last sequence update.
May your neighbors file a restraining order against your display
May spiders, slugs, and field mice nest in your controllers
And...
May your GFCI be all about the "I".
:razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::razz::r azz::razz:
rjchu
06-10-2011, 05:46 PM
Ok, I'll get my TRS-80 ready but do you know if he'll be supporting a portable version that'll run on my old TI-85 graphing calculator?
-joni-
Okay...here is a tidbit as an appetizer. I just sat down with KC at Starbucks. He is actually driving back home right now to continue working on the user interface. It is his full intention to have Vixen 3.0 ready for this year. DO NOT STOP SEQUENCING!!! He will write a conversion routine for older versions as he always does. DO NOT DELAY SEQUENCING while waiting!!! Keep at it or you will never get done.
Just my 2 cents
g2ktcf
06-10-2011, 05:46 PM
Ok, I'll get my TRS-80 ready but do you know if he'll be supporting a portable version that'll run on my old TI-85 graphing calculator?
-joni-
hmmm .NET 4.0 will be required if that answers your question.....
intwoit2002
06-10-2011, 06:07 PM
I want to apologize for starting something, this was for informational use only. I currently use 2.1.4 and am not moving. I was just curious and will always be a strong supporter of KC's work and unwavering support for all who use his kind work.
Just need a little input on how to handle all the RGB channels this year, it seems daunting.
Again please accept my apology.
chilloutdocdoc
06-10-2011, 06:11 PM
No apology necessary, just wondering where things were going, sorry if I was a bit rough around the edges earlier. The thing is with freeware, you never know what's going to happen, cause, it's not the person's main priority in life, they need to keep the roof over their heads.
Intwoit, how many RGB channels are we talking here?
BuzzKill
06-10-2011, 06:12 PM
I know. Maybe if we had an outlet for our angst, like a Joke of the Day thread or something, this wouldn't happen?
dmoore
06-10-2011, 06:33 PM
just sat down with KC at Starbucks.
Does KC live in Houston?
Skunberg
06-10-2011, 07:15 PM
only operates on either an Atari game console or a TRS-80.
Whoo Hoo!!!! I have both!! And last summer used the Atari 2600 with the grandkids, so it works. Not so sure about the trash 80.
Brian
Jack Stevens
06-11-2011, 11:38 AM
I wonder if I can put it on my TRS-80 model 100 so I can tweak with it outside?
Gebbinn
06-11-2011, 12:08 PM
Um, what about my Atari PC? did you even know they made a PC? I didnt until I picked this thing up at a yard sale for 3 bucks. It even has a game that I can play, called M.U.L.E.
Will this new vixen work on my Atari PC? I am curious though, will the new vixen automatically create subroutines in the motherboard to create new circuitry that will automatically send wireless signals to the XBee controllers?
n8huntsman
06-11-2011, 12:30 PM
Many of us are moving up in channel counts and mixing in lots of RGB devices into the setups and it would be good to know if we can look forward to some new features in Vixen this year. If this is not the case then we can either live with it as-is or move on to LSP if that meets your needs. Several folks have already started their sequencing and many more will be soon and we can't wait forever for the next release.
I too am at a point where I must make a decision. I'm planning a Halloween display and I'm using 4 universes of RGB pixels. I doubt the new Vixen will be out by then, which I can live with. My color chases just wont be as cool. But then Christmas... I will absolutely need either LSP or Vixen 3.0 for that. If 3.0 will not be out before Christmas and I'm forced to use LSP, then I'd like that crystal ball so I know now what to use for my Halloween display.
All that being said, I would much rather contribute my $80 to KC. I bet many of us are in that same situation. I wonder if some paypal donations could help ensure that it comes before Christamas? Since I'm doing a Halloween display, maybe it would be beneficial for me to be a beta tester so I can go live prior to most people and give some feedback? I don't wanna blow up KC's inbox so if anyone speaks to him, run that by him for me.
Thanks
dirknerkle
06-11-2011, 01:54 PM
I just tried out the new version and loaded in an old Wizards In Winter sequence. Ran it -- and it mowed my lawn and washed the windows on my house! It's awesome!
Except now I have grass clippings all over the keyboard and I have no idea how to get this mower up the stairs from my basement...
bcstuff
06-11-2011, 05:32 PM
I would much rather contribute my $80 to KC. I bet many of us are in that same situation. I wonder if some paypal donations could help ensure that it comes before Christamas?
If you look at previous posts concerning KC and Vixen, you will see there has been many attempts to donate to KC to help support Vixen.
He created and supports Vixen as his hobby and he wants it to remain free. He will not accept any donations.
I had to draw a line in the "sand" as to when I would need to start sequencing. It would difficult for me to use the current version of Vixen to sequence the number of channels I will have for this Christmas.
So I have a date set that if the new version is not available by then, I will have to make arrangements using other software for this year. I would prefer to use the new Vixen.
There is always next year if I can't get it in time.
P.S. KC thanks for Vixen, its an awesome program, and we look forward to your future release.
ErnieHorning
06-11-2011, 07:05 PM
Is there a list of features that will be in 3.0 somewhere? How you guys know that sequencing will any different?
Mactayl
06-11-2011, 07:39 PM
I will stay with VIXEN and it is as Simple as that.
Thanks KC for all you have done. :)
Just my 2 cents.
bcstuff
06-11-2011, 09:12 PM
Is there a list of features that will be in 3.0 somewhere? How you guys know that sequencing will any different?
I've gone back and read all the posts by KC. Maybe I am just reading between the lines or eagerly hopeful. The most recent post to give us insight to where he is going with 3.0 was the poll he did this past November.
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?13309-The-State-of-Vixen
As far as what will be Vixen 3.0 will be... guess we will find out when KC bestows his gift to us.
sallz0r
06-13-2011, 08:51 AM
I had to draw a line in the "sand" as to when I would need to start sequencing. It would difficult for me to use the current version of Vixen to sequence the number of channels I will have for this Christmas.
So I have a date set that if the new version is not available by then, I will have to make arrangements using other software for this year. I would prefer to use the new Vixen.
Fair enough. :-) What's that line in the sand? ie. you mention that you've decided on a cut-off date; when is that date?
Jack Stevens
06-13-2011, 09:04 AM
I just tried out the new version and loaded in an old Wizards In Winter sequence. Ran it -- and it mowed my lawn and washed the windows on my house! It's awesome!
Except now I have grass clippings all over the keyboard and I have no idea how to get this mower up the stairs from my basement...
It must be my lack-of-sequencing-skills. My Wizards sequence only started the lawnmower.
Can I get a copy of yours? I need a basement. The crawl space I have just doesn't make it for me.
bcstuff
06-13-2011, 10:04 AM
Fair enough. :-) What's that line in the sand? ie. you mention that you've decided on a cut-off date; when is that date?
July 1st is our "line in the sand".
I need to trial some other software this month so I'll be ready to make a decision.
With 7700 channels to sequence, we probably should have already started the sequencing. I do have the benefit that my fiance participates, so we can get twice the work done in the same amount of time.
sallz0r
06-13-2011, 10:08 AM
With 7700 channels to sequence, we probably should have already started the sequencing. I do have the benefit that my fiance participates, so we can get twice the work done in the same amount of time.
Good grief! That seemed.... unusually high, until I read your sig, and realized it was mostly in pixel nodes. :-)
What are you planning on doing with the pixel nodes? what style of effects? (eg. are they going to be arranged in a giant grid and playing video, or just doing general lighing effects, like spins, bounces, etc.)?
kychristmas
06-13-2011, 10:09 AM
7700 channels huh? Even with Excellent RGB tools, you probably should have started sequencing with an Army last July. Good Luck!
July 1st is our "line in the sand".
I need to trial some other software this month so I'll be ready to make a decision.
With 7700 channels to sequence, we probably should have already started the sequencing. I do have the benefit that my fiance participates, so we can get twice the work done in the same amount of time.
bcstuff
06-13-2011, 10:25 AM
The mega tree made of pixel nodes has the benefit of being able to do all the things you mentioned.
This video is just a brief example of what can be done as just general lighting effects:
http://www.vimeo.com/17207457
and some non traditional effects using Cosmic Color Ribbons, which are not individually controllable, they are in groups 3 if I am not mistaken.
This is also only 2D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95VUbxXzC8&
The pixel node LED Trix is going to be like a really low resolution TV.
sallz0r
06-13-2011, 10:41 AM
The mega tree made of pixel nodes has the benefit of being able to do all the things you mentioned.
This video is just a brief example of what can be done as just general lighting effects:
http://www.vimeo.com/17207457
and some non traditional effects using Cosmic Color Ribbons, which are not individually controllable, they are in groups 3 if I am not mistaken.
This is also only 2D.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w95VUbxXzC8&
The pixel node LED Trix is going to be like a really low resolution TV.
Damn cool! That looks very nice.
So what are you planning on putting on the LED Trix? (I haven't actually seen one before, so bear with me!) Videos/pictures/etc.? scrolling text?
Or, if I can rephrase my question, what do you *want* to be able to put on there (ie. when you're looking at different software packages)? What would be the ultimate plan?
bcstuff
06-13-2011, 11:29 AM
Very simple video and scrolling text, my resolution for the pixel LED trix is only 24x20.
Check out Eddys video, he has two Trix similar to what I have envisioned mine doing.
http://vimeo.com/18012680
There are some ways to make video in Vixen without manually using the grid. With Vixen's current version, its not easy to do on a larger scale.
dmoore
06-13-2011, 11:44 AM
Very simple video and scrolling text, my resolution for the pixel LED trix is only 24x20.
Check out Eddys video, he has two Trix similar to what I have envisioned mine doing.
http://vimeo.com/18012680
There are some ways to make video in Vixen without manually using the grid. With Vixen's current version, its not easy to do on a larger scale.
Doing matrix displays and video based transitions (such as the wash of rainbow colors) like Eddy has done is fairly easy with what he used, which was LSP 1.8 from last year.
Matrix animation: http://vimeo.com/8376316
Transitions: http://vimeo.com/11414852 & http://vimeo.com/12069472
michaelc
06-13-2011, 01:13 PM
So I have access to an old Odyssey Game console. You know the one that you had to tape 'screens' to you tv to represent the different games (pong, tank, football, etc). Will it work on that!
g2ktcf
06-13-2011, 01:32 PM
July 1st is our "line in the sand".
I need to trial some other software this month so I'll be ready to make a decision.
With 7700 channels to sequence, we probably should have already started the sequencing. I do have the benefit that my fiance participates, so we can get twice the work done in the same amount of time.
FYI, very few programs can handle that many channels. LSP says "unlimited" but I there are reported issues with just over 2000 channels. KC is currently testing Vixen for full speed operation at just over 2000 channels as well.
smartalec
06-13-2011, 01:45 PM
FYI, very few programs can handle that many channels. LSP says "unlimited" but I there are reported issues with just over 2000 channels. KC is currently testing Vixen for full speed operation at just over 2000 channels as well.
ouch only 2000 channels, thats not much
this is my second year an i have 520channels, and i have'nt added any pixels to my display yet.
With people slowly going with pixel's high channel counts is'nt that far away
ErnieHorning
06-13-2011, 02:45 PM
At some point a plug-in will need to be written that can benchmark a computer to see if it’s even capable of controlling the number of channels that are wanted. Just because a PC is new and has what appears to be a very fast processor, doesn’t mean that it will be perform as fast as it should.
Just like cars, the manufactures only advertise what they want you to hear. It’s called marketing.
jrock64
06-13-2011, 03:26 PM
FYI, very few programs can handle that many channels. LSP says "unlimited" but I there are reported issues with just over 2000 channels. KC is currently testing Vixen for full speed operation at just over 2000 channels as well.
Only 2,000, I hope you mean 20,000
I ran 2,500 channels last year on Vixen.
I think Aussie Phil ran 8,000 channels.
There is a process to allow Vixen to program matrices.
It takes a little effort, but it will work.
http://forums.auschristmaslighting.com/index.php/topic,438.0.html
Joel
g2ktcf
06-13-2011, 03:52 PM
no I mean 2000 with the smallest timeslices....the event intervals mean alot and the testing is done on minimal hardware. If you plan on running thousands of channels, I would not be using a low end PC. However, even with higher channel counts you will always have issues on PCs using windows as you do not have full control over when your data is sent to the processor. I am not saying it does not work...I am saying plan on doing testing to verify it.
bcstuff
06-13-2011, 04:56 PM
Here is a video with Vixen running 16384 channels.
http://vimeo.com/23737977
I have a fast computer and I am not too worried about the program being able to handle it.
Adjustable preview may be a problem, but i guess we will see.
ErnieHorning
06-13-2011, 05:23 PM
Wow with 16384 channels and drawing at an average of 1 channel every 10 seconds, it would take 45.5 hours just to complete the preview. :eek: That’s about 3 or sequences for me.
bcstuff
06-13-2011, 05:32 PM
Didn't think about drawing the adjustable preview, ouch. That's why I am looking at LSP, soon to be 2.0.
You draw a line and say its 128 nodes (3 color each = 384 channels) and it does it automatically.
Way quicker.
ErnieHorning
06-13-2011, 06:08 PM
I have no idea what KC has planned for Vixen, just that there will be RGB support. Past experiences show that KC is no slouch at software. We’ll just see when it emerges.
Mactayl
06-13-2011, 07:52 PM
I will be happy with whatever he creates, it's hard enough writing the software and doing it for free WOW, I am sure that it takes hundreds of hours to develop something like that, can't wait to see it.
Wombat
06-14-2011, 12:26 AM
I tried to run 4000 channels off LSP last year but couldnt get it to work even with a 4 core 2.8GHz processor and 8GB ram :( I ended up using Vixen and it ran without a hitch :) Sequencing it was a problem though could only do basic sequences using logic functions because I ran out of time (LSP let me down)
However Vixen Rules I just hope that KC finds the time to complete the new version. Keep up the good work :)
Regards
Wombat
g2ktcf
06-14-2011, 06:37 AM
Didn't think about drawing the adjustable preview, ouch. That's why I am looking at LSP, soon to be 2.0.
You draw a line and say its 128 nodes (3 color each = 384 channels) and it does it automatically.
Way quicker.
Folks....this is the user interface...NOT the core program. The editor is a addon...you can write what you want in the new version of Vixen. KC is doing one now but you can program it to do what ever you want.
The core program is the one generating the data to sent out to the ports. Also, what hardware setup did you use for 16k channels? Event timings? It all makes a difference.
ErnieHorning
06-14-2011, 09:35 AM
g2ktcf, anybody planning on writing and updating a feature list and user manual? KC never has time and had said that he wasn’t any good at documentation and left it for someone else last time. Nobody had time by the time 2.5 appeared publicly and it never really ever happened.
It would be a lot easier to document as it progresses than figure out what was done at the end. The Wiki would be a good place to put it and it wouldn’t need to be public until Vixen is.
Once it goes public then anybody can update it. Just trying to think ahead a little bit.
g2ktcf
06-14-2011, 09:50 AM
Ernie...the plan is to release the ALPHA version to a few of us who could write add-ons for this year. That is what he is planning.
As for documentation...that will be left up to the Add-On writer. This is one of the Major changes for Vixen this year. Most of what we use is in the User Interface and that can be changed as you see fit. There should be 5 different "module" types for the core system. I have not seen the details as we just discussed them last Friday. The documentation will most likely need to be a group effort and the Wiki is the ideal place for this. It is way too early to even think of how to layout the structure of this Wiki page but we will all have to have an hand in it.
erm213
06-14-2011, 09:59 AM
Ernie...the plan is to release the ALPHA version to a few of us who could write add-ons for this year. That is what he is planning.
As for documentation...that will be left up to the Add-On writer. This is one of the Major changes for Vixen this year. Most of what we use is in the User Interface and that can be changed as you see fit. There should be 5 different "module" types for the core system. I have not seen the details as we just discussed them last Friday. The documentation will most likely need to be a group effort and the Wiki is the ideal place for this. It is way too early to even think of how to layout the structure of this Wiki page but we will all have to have an hand in it.
I am working on a plug-in for 2.5 that supports display shapes, and RGB pixels etc. Vixen Display Visualizer (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?15859-Vixen-Display-Visualizer)
I would be interested, if possible, in having early access to get the plug in working with 3.0.
Thanks,
Erik
g2ktcf
06-14-2011, 11:29 AM
you will need it....the data structure that you read from Vixen for any module is different.
erm213
06-14-2011, 11:39 AM
you will need it....the data structure that you read from Vixen for any module is different.
To be expected, 3.0 sounds like a fundamental change to the software. Do you know if there is a timeline for the alpha release, or if we could get the API in some form?
Thanks,
Erik
g2ktcf
06-14-2011, 11:44 AM
right now, there is only the core module and you have nothing to really play with. Once KC gets a rudimentary UI done, I expect to see him give out the alpha for testing. Bear in mind that he chooses who to give this too so you need to ask him for it. Please give him enough information to convince him that you can give him the feedback he needs. Having an existing plug-in or add-in that needs to be modified is a good start!!!
erm213
06-14-2011, 11:55 AM
right now, there is only the core module and you have nothing to really play with. Once KC gets a rudimentary UI done, I expect to see him give out the alpha for testing. Bear in mind that he chooses who to give this too so you need to ask him for it. Please give him enough information to convince him that you can give him the feedback he needs. Having an existing plug-in or add-in that needs to be modified is a good start!!!
Thanks for the info, I will contact KC then!
Erik
Hey guys! Thanks for the activity and discussion. I think it's time to catch you all up on where things stand.
First, thanks to Chris for fielding questions and disseminating what he could. And thanks for the coffee, Chris. I don't know if I actually thanked you that day.
There has been a group building up in the background of about a half-dozen guys to help move this thing along. Some of the guys who have been around since near the stone age, like Chris, have started chipping in where they can in design, implementation and, eventually, testing. I don't have a list in front of me, but from memory they include Michael Sallaway, Ben Yaroch, Anthony Marchini (I hope I got that right), Jonathon Reinhart, Tony Eberle, and my apologies to names I missed because I know there are at least a couple more. So this is a very active affair.
Since Chris and I met up, the group has been having daily discussions with this thread in mind (which is hard when you consider we span 15 hours in time zone differences altogether). There is an area of functionality that we think will be really helpful, but it would set us back a bit on the UI front. But, since we're no longer a single guy, we can multitask. Anyway, the daily back-and-forth has been about the details of this last-minute addition and whether or not to try to include it. We think it's important enough to include. On the plus side, it's not as invasive as it could be, so the impact is not a month-long setback.
With that in mind, the second question has been what you've been discussing here -- this year or not? We think we can do it, and there are at least a couple people in the group that really believe in that. I'll qualify that with our high-level hopes: our hope is to have a usable front-end by September and usable binaries for developers before that. However, don't expect a polished rock by September. Our first goal is stability and enough of a UI that it can be usable. Then as we get feedback from you, we adjust and polish. This will hopefully develop into a feedback and release cycle that demonstrates that we are moving in a positive direction. I know that September doesn't give much sequencing time, but if this version does for you what we hope it will, we think your sequencing times could be greatly reduced. We may be way off the mark and only you will be able to tell us.
Let me be as frank and as straight-forward as I can be with the next statement: This is our goal. This is not a promise. With that said, we're going to be busting our individual and collective butts to achieve that goal. You've been a pretty extraordinary group to have stuck around like you have and I, we, think pretty highly of you. Even the ones that have migrated elsewhere. On that note, let me also say this -- You do what you have to to take care of yourself. As awesome as it would be to have you put so much faith in our efforts as to hold off doing your show, do what you have to to make that show happen. After all, we are human, this is a volunteer effort, and life and work tend to interrupt even the best-laid plans. We're committed, but if you have to go to LSP, LOR, or anything else to make your awesomeness happen, no hard feelings. You are at the center of this, not us.
Man, do I talk a lot. Really, I'm quiet in person. Better wrap this up.
So that's the plan. We think we've ironed out the detail on this new bit of functionality and are starting to look into design and implementation tonight. UI is going to move forth now that this is settled, and we're going to do what we can to finally, FINALLY get you guys an update this year.
Thanks for your interest and thanks for...well, just a lot of things.
michaelc
06-17-2011, 11:05 PM
KC - I for one am very grateful for the info and the effort. I can continue using the very stable 2.1 for now and look forward to the improved blinky flashy fun of your new release. As long as there is an upgrade path from our current vixen files to the new ones, I think Halloween could be a great test bed for the new code.
Once again THANK YOU:D
ErnieHorning
06-18-2011, 12:12 AM
Thanks for letting the rest of us know KC. We've heard rumors and speculations for a couple of years, so it's great to hear directly from you that Vixen is moving forward.
September's still quite awhile so I've still got plenty of time to get more rumors going. ;)
I also kind of miss those short full screen posts of your's. :-P
keebler
06-18-2011, 06:10 AM
KC,
i am thrilled that you take all this time to do this for us. this is an AWESOME endeavor and one that we are all very grateful for.
being one that has years in the stage lighting business - i find VIXEN a very useful and thoughtful tool to allow us to do what we do. - CHEERS!
i proudly use, display, and brag on VIXEN to all the folks that enjoy what VIXEN does with lights and special effects for my displays.
VIXEN does a plethora of things that LOR (scoff) will never be able to do (by its very nature). and i for one am hooked on VIXEN. thank you!
there is one thing i would ask (no big deal if you cant) is there a way add a feature that allows LIVE edits.
for example, if you have a channel that you are troubleshooting - raising and lowering intensity and have the channel respond immediately.
i have found this to be very helpful with other applications, and thought that perhaps this may be something to add to this.
if you need a beta tester, i would be happy to do that
chilloutdocdoc
06-18-2011, 07:29 AM
KC,
there is one thing i would ask (no big deal if you cant) is there a way add a feature that allows LIVE edits.
for example, if you have a channel that you are troubleshooting - raising and lowering intensity and have the channel respond immediately.
i have found this to be very helpful with other applications, and thought that perhaps this may be something to add to this.
It's already there Ken, In the top left of your sequence window you see a Label titled "Channels" Then a text box, the next button over has two boxes and two check marks, that's your Test Channel feature. Click that button, and then it'll bring up a new dialog box. When that box opens, any channel highlighted will be set to the brightness of the slider on the right. (Use CTRL to select multiple individual channels or SHIFT to select multiple channels in one large block.)
Matt_Edwards
06-18-2011, 08:26 AM
KC,
We have never meet, neither even shared a coffee, but I am indebted to you for you software. A BIG Thanks to you and the team assisting you.
keebler
06-18-2011, 08:29 AM
It's already there Ken, In the top left of your sequence window you see a Label titled "Channels" Then a text box, the next button over has two boxes and two check marks, that's your Test Channel feature. Click that button, and then it'll bring up a new dialog box. When that box opens, any channel highlighted will be set to the brightness of the slider on the right. (Use CTRL to select multiple individual channels or SHIFT to select multiple channels in one large block.)
thanks Josh
g2ktcf
06-18-2011, 10:12 AM
KC, I think you must have put something "extra" in your coffee! :)
First of all....I have only been here for three years....This does not qualify as "Stoneage"
Secondly, I have not done much except to be a sounding board and asking LOTS of questions. Sometimes I think I am more a hinderance than help. So this post puts WAY TO MUCH CREDIT IN MY DIRECTION! But I appreciate the thoughts :lol:
We all appreciate what you are doing!
Cheers,
Chris
Wayne J
06-18-2011, 12:22 PM
KC, I think you must have put something "extra" in your coffee! :)
First of all....I have only been here for three years....This does not qualify as "Stoneage"
Secondly, I have not done much except to be a sounding board and asking LOTS of questions. Sometimes I think I am more a hinderance than help. So this post puts WAY TO MUCH CREDIT IN MY DIRECTION! But I appreciate the thoughts :lol:
We all appreciate what you are doing!
Cheers,
Chris
Dang... why didn't I get any of this coffee? :)
g2ktcf
06-18-2011, 01:04 PM
Dang... why didn't I get any of this coffee? :)
well...you mentioned something about needing to eat! We all have to have our priorities! :D
tweist
06-20-2011, 12:52 PM
KC
Glad to hear you are all "busting our individual and collective butts to achieve that goal", and we all appreciate it greatly. But please don't kill yourselves. I'm sure the new vixen software will be great as always, but in the mean time, Vixen 2.1 is working great and I'm sure most of us will agree to that. I for one love to push the limits of the program and will be trying to go to 16 houses this year, but that is another story.
So please, take your time and we all understand that other things pop up from time to time, (family matters, work, etc.), I'm sure what ever the new Rev has in store for us, we will all love it. I have only been using vixen for 2 1/2 years now and I feel like an expert. You have made it that simple.
Again, Thank you and your team for all you do. Please let us know who and when we can help in any way.
With 20k in your "trash 80" you could implement a one channel sequence and still have memory left over to do other things with.
Dean
lightman
06-22-2011, 10:27 AM
KC,
Behind you all the way! Eternally thankful for all you do... and also the "collectoive butts".
Look forward to September....
Lightman (Brian)
MacabreRob
01-26-2012, 01:43 PM
Sorry, haven't been on in a while... Is Vixen 3.0 out yet??
kychristmas
01-26-2012, 01:50 PM
Sorry, haven't been on in a while... Is Vixen 3.0 out yet??
Currently in Beta.
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?18027-3-0-Beta-0
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