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steve_hirst
10-23-2010, 02:03 PM
anyone have any thoughts or ever used this (http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-2-in-1-SMD-Rework-Soldering-Station-HOT-AIR-IRON_W0QQitemZ250555725955QQcategoryZ109556QQcmdZV iewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DSIC% 26its%3DI%252BC%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS %252BUFI%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D300469815086%26ps%3D6 3%26clkid%3D4781928185521632555) station? the price is right and I plan to use it to build my strobes.

thanks in advance.

Mactayl
10-23-2010, 02:09 PM
It looks like it is a heck of a deal for 86 bucks !

ukewarrior
10-23-2010, 11:57 PM
Here's a review of this 'clone' machine.

http://www.justblair.co.uk/the-kada-852-smt-solderstation.html

and a video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGs3q9nsA8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=quGs3q9nsA8")

Mactayl
10-24-2010, 06:58 AM
All in all for the price it's not bad seeing that a good unit will run you from $300.00 to $800.00 , yes it's made in China but so are most of the things that we buy today are made in China. The quality is not as good as I would like but for the price you can't beat it. I read the review and watched the video and yes it had some loose screws and other issues that could be easily corrected but it seemed to perform well. Not sure how the manufacture stands behind there product but for 86 bucks I don't think you can find one for less then that.

Matt_Edwards
10-24-2010, 09:36 PM
Just a short note concerning the op. You intend to use the hot air for the strobes. Whilst I am not lucky enough to receive my strobe components yet, caution is required when using hot air for smd on both sides. Plan a cooling down period between sides, or use exopy glue to hold components on the board (not really an option for DIY). I intend to reflow one side and then stick solder the other side.

I reckon the station looks good. I would have get one if I didn't already have one.
Cheers

Andy.wpg
10-29-2010, 10:29 PM
A couple of years ago, Nuts & Volts had an article on using a toaster oven and a Sparkfun Electronics Reflow Toaster controller to solder SMD boards.

Thought these might be an interesting addition to this thread.

The article is HERE (http://nutsvolts.texterity.com/nutsvolts/200806?pg=67&search_term=toaster%20oven#pg67) and the toaster controller is located HERE (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=81)

If the Nuts & Volts link doesn't work, there are links to everything on the SparkFun link.

I plan to build one of these when I get some time.

budude
10-29-2010, 11:06 PM
A couple of years ago, Nuts & Volts had an article on using a toaster oven and a Sparkfun Electronics Reflow Toaster controller to solder SMD boards.

Thought these might be an interesting addition to this thread.

The article is HERE (http://nutsvolts.texterity.com/nutsvolts/200806?pg=67&search_term=toaster%20oven#pg67) and the toaster controller is located HERE (http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=81)

If the Nuts & Volts link doesn't work, there are links to everything on the SparkFun link.

I plan to build one of these when I get some time.

I got the same one and posted HERE (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12212) about it. Works Great!

steve_hirst
10-29-2010, 11:25 PM
I got this (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120571221985&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT) one instead. It has a 1 year warranty and several extra parts for only $20 more. Plus it ships from the states.

It came in today but I have not had time to work with it yet. If I have time this weekend then I'll bust it out to play and post some pics. This weekend is more for the kids though, so I'm not sure I'll get time. tomorrow I have pushmobile with the cubscouts where I will cook 200 burgers and 150 hotdogs, just for our group. After that I have to get ready for halloween parties. And then Halloween of course.

Skunberg
11-07-2010, 12:32 PM
Try it out yet Steve?

steve_hirst
11-07-2010, 10:15 PM
nope, Started setup this weekend and I'm having to build some of it as I go. This is my first year so I'm still trying to figure a few things out and its going slow. I'll get to it and let you know how it goes.

Skunberg
03-07-2011, 07:30 PM
Made any strobes yet Steve?

steve_hirst
03-08-2011, 12:54 AM
yes, this setup is great for it. and for the price I payed I highly recomend it. I do have a few things that I don't like about it. the iron stand needs more weight, its a bit loud when running the fan, and I'm not much for the small tip that came installed. I changed the tip out andd I like that much better and I found a new stand for it so thats ok now. the noise isn't bad enough that its going to stop me from using it so I'm good to go.

I can put 10 strobes together in an hour and I've been using the reflow on both sides of the strobe with no problems.

Skunberg
03-08-2011, 09:51 AM
I bought the "4000" also. I hand soldered one strobe, that is slow going. I'm want to try the reflow. I'm sure it'll be faster (can't be any slower VBG), which end are you using? And what air and heat settings? Are you using standard solder or paste? And finally are you using any flux? Oh yea, which side first or dosen't it matter?

Brian

steve_hirst
03-08-2011, 12:16 PM
I'm using paste on mine, no flux, and doing the pic side last. I use the smallest tip with the air almost off and the heat was way up, like 450-500 range. pics are attached of some strobes. be careful, if you get your air to high you will blow the resistors right off the board. use a small amount of the paste on your chips cause its easy to get bridges.