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quefol
07-29-2010, 06:00 PM
i have a question for someone that has expieance in hooking up multiple controllers i have one olson 595 with ren-c a led tricks with parallel port connection an now i am in the process of building a ren 24 i only have one serial connetion and one parallel port on the back of my pc how do i connect everything to work together with the same sequence in vixen

Penfold
07-29-2010, 06:28 PM
What you can do is get a Serial card like the one you can find at MJPA, link below:

http://www.mpja.com/prodinfo.asp?number=12765+DC

Or you can also get a USB to Serial converter that you can find online. An example would be like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ADAPTER-CABLE-SERIAL-DB9-PIN-USB-CONVERTER-RS232-/390192619984?cmd=ViewItem&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5ad94ae1d0

After you get a couple of new ports in place it's just a matter of making sure you have the plugins selected in Vixen.

Mudsculpter
07-29-2010, 06:48 PM
I have one of these and this is much more reasonable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smartio-MOXA-8-Port-Serial-Card-C168H-PCI-W-CABLE-/360165242101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item53db8574f5

Penfold
07-29-2010, 07:13 PM
WoW! thanks for posting that little gem Chuck that got me drooling. I didn't know that there was a much cheaper card! COOL!

XmasInGalt
07-29-2010, 07:24 PM
I have one of these and this is much more reasonable.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Smartio-MOXA-8-Port-Serial-Card-C168H-PCI-W-CABLE-/360165242101?cmd=ViewItem&pt=PCC_Drives_Storage_Internal&hash=item53db8574f5

That's the same card I've had in my machine for the last two years. I've used up to 5 ports during a show without any problems.

quefol
07-29-2010, 08:43 PM
i have tried a usb to serial connector on my ren c but dosent want to work very well channels like to flicker on an off randomly is there settings i need to change

Mudsculpter
07-29-2010, 08:56 PM
I tried the USB to serial connector method first and it was a waste of time for me.
If you have a PC for your show computer with an open PCI slot you are better off getting a MOXA multi port when they come available.

oldcqr
07-29-2010, 09:07 PM
If you have a PC for your show computer with an open PCI slot you are better off getting a MOXA multi port when they come available.

<< this.

Last year I was having problems with Vixen and 'access denied' errors (someone please correct me). Others commented that they only see that problem when using USB to RS232 adapters, so I went ahead and purchased a cheap ($12) 2 serial port PCI card (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003AVN6BG?ie=UTF8&tag=laoli-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B003AVN6BG) for this year. Hopefully this new card will clear up that error.

Monoprice has them for a buck cheaper, but I can't recomended them any more. They've screwed up 4 of my last 11 orders - 3 were missing stuff, and the last one they sent wrong stuff.

Mudsculpter
07-29-2010, 11:07 PM
During setup I usually have the same errors. I can't really explain why it happens though. A reboot clears things up.

oldcqr
07-30-2010, 10:37 AM
During setup I usually have the same errors. I can't really explain why it happens though. A reboot clears things up.

For me, a reboot fixes the problem for a random amount of time -- 1 day to more than a week. Then it shows up again.

cobraman44
07-30-2010, 10:51 AM
Why not just hook up the ren 24 to the serial port and the daisy chain the ren-c on to the Ren 24. You can run 256 channels on one serial port.

Jrd
08-03-2010, 11:30 PM
I have to agree with cobraman44, why do you want to run each controller off of it's own port? I think the solution you are looking for is called "Daisy Chaining".

quefol
08-04-2010, 02:20 PM
is the data pin configuation the same on the ren c as the ren 24 v3.0 i thought there were diffrent on the rs232 dosent the ren 24 have its own power supply and zero cross so what happens to the zero cross coming from the ren c

Jrd
08-04-2010, 04:54 PM
They should work fine together depending on which version of the Ren24 you have, The ZC signal from the Ren-C would be ignored. Actually if you had the Ren 24 version 3.0 or higher inline before the Ren-C then it would pass down ZC and power according to the wiki but I am not sure which pin the power would be on.

rstehle
08-04-2010, 05:49 PM
If you had the Ren 24 version 3.0 or higher inline before the Ren-C then it would pass down ZC and power according to the wiki but I am not sure which pin the power would be on.

Just to clarify, the Ren 24 3.0 or 3.3 will send ZC down the line, (I believe on Pin 3 with the ZC jumper on) but it will not power controllers downstream. It will pass thru power on pins 1,2, and 7,8, but does not create power for other boards. :D

cessnapilot
08-04-2010, 08:26 PM
Has anybody tried a card like this? It says it will output RS-485. Neither of my computers have com ports so right now I'm just using a USB adaptor for my laptop for my Renard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124067&cm_re=rs485-_-15-124-067-_-Product

Mudsculpter
08-04-2010, 09:23 PM
Has anybody tried a card like this? It says it will output RS-485. Neither of my computers have com ports so right now I'm just using a USB adaptor for my laptop for my Renard.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815124067&cm_re=rs485-_-15-124-067-_-Product


I have not used this one in particular but the individual reviews would steer me away from this device.

dirknerkle
08-04-2010, 10:45 PM
One of the *approved* USB to RS485 adapters is a Hexin and currently sells for about $12 delivered. Use a powered USB hub and plug a bunch of them into the hub for a pretty easy and inexpensive way to quickly add capacity.

cessnapilot
08-05-2010, 07:03 AM
One of the *approved* USB to RS485 adapters is a Hexin and currently sells for about $12 delivered. Use a powered USB hub and plug a bunch of them into the hub for a pretty easy and inexpensive way to quickly add capacity.

That looks much better, I'll have to look for one. Thanks