Group Buy - LED Strobe Parts ONLY - Ends 7/19/10 At NOON

[fathead45]

Group Buy Rules Reminder
If you've never purchased an item in a group buy before, please read before posting in this thread: http://doityourselfchristmas.com/for...ead.php?t=2919

Disclaimer
By participating in this Group Buy all participants agree to release www.doityourselfchristmas.com, its Owners, Administrators, Moderators or any other staff of any and all liability and waive all rights the organizer (me) may have under all laws and governing bodies. By posting in this thread you agree you are entering a binding contract between the Organizer and the Participant.
(thanks dirk, i borrowed this from your thread, sounded better than what i could type lol.)

Closes Monday 19th at Noon EST


TPR1 Mouser BOM, this can used with Mouser BOM Import.
660-RK73H2BTTD33R0F | 1
660-RK73H2BTTD6R98F | 1
660-RK73H2BTTD2R00F | 1
660-RK73H2BTTD1001F | 2
290-100K-RC | 1
863-NUD4001DR2G | 1
579-PIC10F200T-I/OT | 1
863-P2N2222AG | 1

Descriptive BOM
660-RK73H2BTTD33R0F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 33ohms 1% - used for normal 20mA LED's
660-RK73H2BTTD6R98F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 6.98ohms 1% - used for 100mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD2R00F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 2ohms 1% - used for 350mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD1001F | 2 // Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 1Kohms 1% - used with Transistor
290-100K-RC | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/8WATT 100KOHMS 1% - used with transistor
863-NUD4001DR2G | 1 //LED Drivers MI 60V LED DRVR TR - required to drive the LED
579-PIC10F200T-I/OT | 1 //Microcontrollers (MCU) .375kBF 16RM 4I/O - small PIC to provide standalone usage
863-P2N2222AG | 1 //Bipolar Small Signal 600mA 75V NPN - used to provide on-off triggering

Also Required -
one PCB, code TRP1 from forums.auschristmaslighting.com or www.doityourselfchristmas.com group buy.
One LED of your choice from your favorite LED seller, a 1W led will be the brightest but have the largest current draw.

Power
For most configurations 5v power will be required.
ALL PRICING IN US DOLLARS
If parts shipped with the PCB's then shipping will be including in the PCB shipping charge.

Parts to be offered in this Group Buy.

Pack1.
This option will consist of the transistor and resistors, all resistors listed above will be included in this pack. Two resistors will be spare depending on your choice of LED.

660-RK73H2BTTD33R0F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 33ohms 1% - used for normal 20mA LED's
660-RK73H2BTTD6R98F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 6.98ohms 1% - used for 100mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD2R00F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 2ohms 1% - used for 350mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD1001F | 2 // Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 1Kohms 1% - used with Transistor
290-100K-RC | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/8WATT 100KOHMS 1% - used with transistor
863-P2N2222AG | 1 //Bipolar Small Signal 600mA 75V NPN - used to provide on-off triggering

Based on 5000 Units
Price $0.12 each Pack

Pack2.
579-PIC10F200T-I/OT | 1 //Microcontrollers (MCU) .375kBF 16RM 4I/O - small PIC to provide standalone usage
Based on 100+ units, there are no further discounts.
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Microchip/PIC10F200T-I-OT/?qs=BYQkrObauivSm8GcPqBlhQ%3d%3d

Price $0.34c each after 100

Pack3.
863-NUD4001DR2G | 1 //LED Drivers MI 60V LED DRVR TR - required to drive the LED
http://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDetail.aspx?R=NUD4001DR2Gvirtualkey58410000 virtualkey863-NUD4001DR2G
This item is on back order til Aug 30, 2010. If you can wait, the price will be the best, if not I can source from other for a higher price. Please put next to pack 3 if you want mouser or other.
Digikey has them too, an should be about the same price, so we will have a source.
Price based on Qty:
1000 - .513

________________________________________

Please indicate the Quantity of each Pack required.
Like
Pack1 - xxx
Pack2 - xxx
Pack3 – xxx

These will ship with your PCB’s.

After all group buy is closed, payment thread will be posted. Thanks again.

[fathead45]

im ordering the packs 1 from phil and he is shipping with pcbs to me, and i am sending him the nuds. all the parts are coming thru me to him minus the pics b.c there is no cost savings there for him.

so if you ordered pcbs and having them shipped to me, it would be best to move your qtys here or you might get charged shipping from aus back to us.

[budude]

I've already put in for the Pack 1 & 2 on Phil's site so:

Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 0
Pack 3 - 200

Thanks!

[LabRat]

Pack 1 - 80
Pack 2 - 80
Pack 3 - 80

Thanks

[steve_hirst]

Pack 1 - 130
Pack 2 - 130
Pack 3 - 130

doesn't matter where from. this will be the first time I try surface mount soldering so I ordered a few extra. Hopeing this is a cheep way to learn.

thanks for doing this.

[jrock64]

Pack1 - 270
Pack2 - 0
Pack3 – 270

I can wait for a better price.

Joel

[Dragon88]

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
pack 3 - 120 - Cheapest possible.

[rca]

Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100 (mouser or cheapest possible)

Thanks.

Ron

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

Pack1 - 420
Pack2 - 0
Pack3 – 420 (cheapest)

Thanks for running this.

Keith

[christmas-light]

I am not sure I have to ask:

Witch pack do I need if I want to have the led strobe to control themselves ?

C - L

[cenote]

I am not sure I have to ask:

Witch pack do I need if I want to have the led strobe to control themselves ?

C - L

All three packs

[mschell]

Given that I've already ordered some from Phil...

Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 210
Pack 3 - 210 (cheapest)

[blickensderfer]

Matt,

I moved my qtys over to here instead of having both you can Phil with my packs.

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120 (cheapest)

[fathead45]

im ordering the packs 1 from phil and he is shipping with pcbs to me, and i am sending him the nuds. all the parts are coming thru me to him minus the pics b.c there is no cost savings there for him.

so if you ordered pcbs and having them shipped to me, it would be best to move your qtys here or you might get charged shipping from aus back to us.

[StandingInAwe85]

If ordering more than 500 of the CC drivers (and I know we will be), isn't DigiKey cheaper to begin with? http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?Detail&name=NUD4001DR2GOSCT-ND I believe they have the PICs for the same price as Mouser, so there could also be some savings on shipping costs.

[mschell]

im ordering the packs 1 from phil and he is shipping with pcbs to me, and i am sending him the nuds. all the parts are coming thru me to him minus the pics b.c there is no cost savings there for him.

so if you ordered pcbs and having them shipped to me, it would be best to move your qtys here or you might get charged shipping from aus back to us.

I, for one, am started to get confused as to who's sourcing what components and how they're getting shipped, etc...and this is for both the PCBs, the resistors/transistors, PICs, and CC drivers.

It was originally stated that if you were a member of the AUS forums, that it was better to place the PCB order there. So I did.

The group buy for all the parts items didn't form here as quickly as in AUS, so I placed an order for Pack 1 on the AUS forum. Phil said he'll ship the parts with the PCBs at no extra cost. And since there was already discussion going on here about the CC drivers, I waited to place the order here.

I've now got payment requests for the covers from FH45 with shipping costs included for them. Does this include shipping of the PCBs? Don't know.

I've paid Phil on the AUS site for the PCBs, but don't know if they are getting shipped directly to me or via FH45. I'm not sure if FH45 is shipping Pack 1 parts to Phil, who will then ship them to me or back to FH45 with the PCBs who will ship them to me, or what?

Some clarification, please, so that I know when/what to expect...

[budude]

Some clarification, please, so that I know when/what to expect...

I am in exactly the same boat - I've got some here, some there, but I don't know that I will get the best deal - especially adding in shipping. The effort is much appreciated for sure though either way...

[z327]

Pack 1 = 20
Pack 2 = 20
Pack 3 = 20 (faster delivery)

[StandingInAwe85]

I think the idea here is to combine everything so only one box shows up at your doorstep. I believe Phil is getting the PCB's and "Pack 1" for everyone, FH is getting the covers and "Pack 3" for everyone, and both are getting "Pack 2" for the members in their countries. Phil will be sending the parts he's getting for everyone in the US to FH, and vice-versa. Then FH will have all the parts for all US members, and Phil will have all the parts for the Aussie members; sorting will take place and one box will be sent to each member with the requested parts. Am I correct here?

[acreiss]

Pack 1- 80
Pack 2- 80
Pack 3- 80 (cheapest possible)

Thanks.....

[fathead45]

mschell - since you posted your amount on Aus forum, they will be shipped from phil. i didnt charge shipping on pcbs, but i did put wrong amount on shipping. your total for just covers shipped is 33.58. sorry bout that.

If you put your order for PCB with the aus forum and didnt specify them to come to me, then they will be shipped from phil.

As for the parts, just put down what you want and me and phil will iron out the rest.

There really is cost savings going on for everyone, so far from what i seen there is atleast a savings of 4-10 bucks with the saving on all the shipping. i know its a bit confusing but we will get thru it and make it right if there is an issue.

thanks guys for being patient.

[fathead45]

I think the idea here is to combine everything so only one box shows up at your doorstep. I believe Phil is getting the PCB's and "Pack 1" for everyone, FH is getting the covers and "Pack 3" for everyone, and both are getting "Pack 2" for the members in their countries. Phil will be sending the parts he's getting for everyone in the US to FH, and vice-versa. Then FH will have all the parts for all US members, and Phil will have all the parts for the Aussie members; sorting will take place and one box will be sent to each member with the requested parts. Am I correct here?

you sir nailed it on the head lol. the aussies are always a day ahead, so its hard t keep up with those lil buggers haha.

[cbell]

Pack1 - 100
Pack2 - 100
Pack3 – 100 (Cheapest)

[cenote]

Matt, I want to bump up my Pack 3 option. I all ready posted over in ACL 120 for packs 1,2 and 3. Please Bump my Pack 3 (nuddie chip) another 10 to 130. I'll wait to what ever is cheapest vendor. Thanks.
Chuck

[rmonty]

Pack 1 - 0 (I have already placed the order on the AUS forum for 100)
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100 (cheapest)

Ryan

[mschell]

I am in exactly the same boat - I've got some here, some there, but I don't know that I will get the best deal - especially adding in shipping. The effort is much appreciated for sure though either way...

And I am very appreciative of all the hard work going on for this, just trying to keep it all straight.

[aussiephil]

I think the idea here is to combine everything so only one box shows up at your doorstep. I believe Phil is getting the PCB's and "Pack 1" for everyone, FH is getting the covers and "Pack 3" for everyone, and both are getting "Pack 2" for the members in their countries. Phil will be sending the parts he's getting for everyone in the US to FH, and vice-versa. Then FH will have all the parts for all US members, and Phil will have all the parts for the Aussie members; sorting will take place and one box will be sent to each member with the requested parts. Am I correct here?

Yes that sums it up just about spot on, I have a number of members in the US that will be getting things direct but the majority will drop ship to Fathead45 first.

We will sort out all postage and shipping with the incoming parts to me from FH45 being shipped with another order hence saving money and me shipping all parts with the PCB's hence also saving money.

Believe it or not it's cheaper for me to do the pack1 order and then ship the US parts back to the US... I just can not source the NUD4001's as cheap.

It won't matter were you post your packs, Matt and I will sort it out.

Cheers
Phil

[deplanche]

Are all 3 packs needed if they are being controlled from Vixen and not random strobes?

[budude]

Are all 3 packs needed if they are being controlled from Vixen and not random strobes?

You don't need Pack 2 but you need Pack 1 for the current setting resistors everyone needs Pack 3 for the Constant current driver.

[rkhanso]

Please help me out here if I have this wrong.
I bought 160 of the PCBs and 160 of the covers.

I need whatever parts to complete 160 of the strobes. Would that be 160 of each of the kits? :confused: Logical, but not sure = or sure who to order from. My end-goal is to use these in a DMX environment - that is IF I can get it figured out. I'd like to be able to use them individually.

OK - I guess this is what I need:
kit 1 - 160
kit 2 - 160
kit 3 - 160

Will there be a group buy for the LEDs? Or, what LEDs do I need to purchase for these? I have never even seen the PCBs, nor instructions or anything about them since I can't get my account activated at the Aussie Christmas light forum.

[Braveit1]

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120

Thanks.
There was an article on engadget.com (http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/07/how-to-make-a-surface-mount-soldering-iron/) on converting the RS de-soldering pencil to hot air with a fish pump. Anyone try that out.

[Jeremy Wiles]

Pack 1: 200
Pack 2: 200
Pack 3: 200 (cheapest)

Thanks!

[Skunberg]

Pack 1 = 210
pack 2 = 210
Pack 3 = 210 cheep please VBG

Thank's!

[kwajtony]

Okay here we go --

PACK 1 - 100
PACK 2 - 20
PACK 3 - 20 Cheapest

[fasteddy]

Please help me out here if I have this wrong.
I bought 160 of the PCBs and 160 of the covers.

I need whatever parts to complete 160 of the strobes. Would that be 160 of each of the kits? :confused: Logical, but not sure = or sure who to order from. My end-goal is to use these in a DMX environment - that is IF I can get it figured out. I'd like to be able to use them individually.

OK - I guess this is what I need:
kit 1 - 160
kit 2 - 160
kit 3 - 160

Will there be a group buy for the LEDs? Or, what LEDs do I need to purchase for these? I have never even seen the PCBs, nor instructions or anything about them since I can't get my account activated at the Aussie Christmas light forum.


You have 2 choices,

160 x pack 1, 2 & 3 which will allow you to control the strobes all from one channel as the pic will randomly flash the strobe. This option means that you must program a PIC and you will have to do SMD soldering on both sides of the board.

or

160 x pack 1 & 3 so you don't get pack 2 which has the PIC. This means that each strobe must be hooked up to a channel and controlled through the sequencing software. but you only smd solder 1 side and no PIC programming

As for LEDs the main options are a 1/2 watt or a 1 watt LED these are recommended due to the brightness. There may be a group buy but usually with LEDs you need a lot to get any price cut. With the 1/2 watt or 1 watt LEDs and PIC the strobe is designed to run at 5vdc and the 1 watt 8mm LEDs have a forward current of 350ma whilst the 0.5watt 8mm LEDs have a forward current of 150ma

Now as far as being able to register with AusChristmasLighting forums then I'm not sure why your having issues, have you checked you spam mail folder in case your confirmation email ended up there. Or if thats not it could you send me a PM explaining whats happening and we will get it fixed for you.

[Jack Stevens]

What the heck, it's only money

PACK 1 - 100
PACK 2 - 100
PACK 3 - 100 Cheapest

Thanks!

[james70818]

Put me down for:

Pack 1: x120
Pack 2: x120
Pack 3: x120

Thanks,

James

[jonedwste]

Pack1 - 100
Pack2 - 25
Pack3 – 100

I assume this setup would work with the 1w led's from the post that is now open to find interest?

Whatever is cheapest...

Thanks,
Jon

[mschell]

I assume this setup would work with the 1w led's from the post that is now open to find interest?

Thanks,
Jon

According to Phil in the Aussie forum, the assortment of resistors in Pack 1 is meant to handle both the .5W and 1W LEDs, as far as I know...so yes.

[mheuer]

I'm in for:

Pack1 - 80
Pack2 - 80
Pack3 - 80 (Cheapest if possible)

Thanks!
Mike.

[Hod]

PACK 1 - 100
PACK 2 - 100
PACK 3 - 100 Cheapest

Thanks for your work and taking this on for everyone's benefit!

[WarnTech]

Pack1 - 80
Pack2 - 0
Pack3 - 40 (Cheapest)

Thanks!

[deplanche]

Pack 1 - 200
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 200 (Cheapest)

[WireWrap]

Pack 1: 80
Pack 2: 80
Pack 3: 80 <cheapest - grin>

Thanks!

[ukewarrior]

Pack 1 - 10
Pack 2 - 50

[lizard050]

pack 1 - 120
pack 2 - 120
pack 3 - 120

Thanks
Brad

[maffeirw]

Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100 (Cheapest)

[dirknerkle]

Pack 1: 50
Pack 2: 12
Pack 3: 50 (cheapest is fine)

I have no idea how or even whether I'm going to use these, but it seems like it's a good idea to get some parts... thanks for all the hard work...

[Skunberg]

I have no idea how or even whether I'm going to use these, but it seems like it's a good idea to get some parts... thanks for all the hard work...

I thought the same at first. But as low power, small wire, small light, random fire, I'm going for that look of sparkle thru out the whole house and yard. 200 on one channel.

[slovanredneck]

I'm in for
200 - pack 1
200 - pack 2
200 - pack 3 (cheapest)

[mschell]

I need to change my quantities...

Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 210

Thanks,

[StandingInAwe85]

Does anyone know what is necessary to program these PIC chips, or have the firmware for them? I do have a JDM PIC programmer, but it's not exactly surface-mount component friendly. I've decided I should figure this out before spending any more money on it...

[budude]

Does anyone know what is necessary to program these PIC chips, or have the firmware for them? I do have a JDM PIC programmer, but it's not exactly surface-mount component friendly. I've decided I should figure this out before spending any more money on it...

I think Phil partially explained this on his site - basically it entails pressing the programmer up against the board pads while programming...

[DIY Guy]

Please count me in for the following:

Pack 1 - 80
Pack 2 - 50
Pack 3 - 80 (cheapest)

Thanks!

[gunther]

80 pack 1
0 pack 2
80 pack 3

Thanks

[D56VillageNut]

Put me on the list for:

Pack 1 - 200
Pack 2 - 0
Pack 3 – 200 (best price)

Thanks

Alan T

[fathead45]

all is updated to this point, put sheet up in beginning of thread.

thanks guys

[klomp10]

Put me down for:
Pack 1: 80
Pack 2: 80
Pack 3: 80

Barely made it in, this is what happens when I have work all week

[fathead45]

got ya klomp.

alright only 1 day left guys then it is closed.

so far we have hit the lowest price on about everything.
pack 1 is .12
pack 2 is .34
pack 3 is .36

pack 2 and 3 doesnt include paypal or shipping fees from supplier. wont be much extra though.

[StandingInAwe85]

Now that things have gotten cheaper, I'm in for 120 of each.

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120

[budude]

Yep - I like the lower price too - plus upgrade my request from

Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 0
Pack 3 - 200
to
Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 50 (I have 50 with Phil also)
Pack 3 - 250

Thanks!

[cbell]

Why not follow the crowd?

I'll up from
Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100

to

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120

[cenote]

Awesome news Matt

[mschell]

Actually, based on the prices, here's one more change:

From
Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 210

to

Pack 1 - 0
Pack 2 - 150
Pack 3 - 210

Can you ship these with my light covers, since my PCBs will be coming from Phil? Let me know if there's any additional cost for shipping this way.

[Reddy_Kilowatt]

Put me down for:

Pack 1 - 210
Pack 2 - 0
Pack 3 – 210 (best price)

Thanks.

-Craig

[Sly]

Please put me down for

Pack1 - 200
Pack2 - 100
Pack3 – 200

Thanks

Sly

[fathead45]

All updated and qty changed. thanks guys. only 12 hrs left.

[deplanche]

Please update mine to 200 of Pack 2 (for 200 of all packs)

[fathead45]

got ya deplanche

only 2 hrs left

[solidmodeler]

Pack1 - 160
Pack2 - 80
Pack3 – 160 -wait for is good

Thanks,
Mike (solidmodeler)

[StandingInAwe85]

After doing some creative planning, I've decided I want to upgrade pack one on my order by 60 kits. This will make it:

Pack 1 - 180
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120 (wait for cheapest)

Thanks again to Phil and Matt for doing this, I know it takes a lot of effort and more time than I want to think about spent counting stuff to pull it off.

[Trike]

I'll take:

Pack 1 - 25
Pack 2 - 25
Pack 3 - 25(cheapest)

Thanks!

[fathead45]

It has been extended a few days to the request of aussie phil.

[DavidHenry]

It has been extended a few days to the request of aussie phil.

Whew. I need 200 of each of the 3 packs.

[bbayliss]

I am good for:
Pack1 - 40
Pack2 - 40
Pack3 – 40

Brian

[aussiephil]

Hi everyone

Just a quick update from me.

The closing date was extended for a few days as when I ordered the test panels early last week it was indicated that the panelled version may have more PCB's for the same price.
The test run is scheduled to be delivered by Fedex Friday my time and i can then confirm that all pcb's on a panel are good.
I didn't want to close the parts buy and then tell everyone that they are getting a bonus 10% more pcbs and leave you short of parts if you want to build them all.

I have also grabbed the numbers from each Forum and have the following grand totals

Pack1 - 8435
Pack2 - 6222
Pack3 - 7925

What an awesome response - not looking forward to counting all the SMD parts though...

Standby for an update once i have some Panels in hand.

Cheers
Aussiephil

[aussiephil]

Hi all

Quick update for the PCB Panel.

I had a small order of panels come in today as a test run, now the panels have been laid out so as to give more than 40 pcb's per panel.
As the layout is, shall we say, compact, the board house has had some issues ensuring the V-Groove used so you can snap the boards apart is exactly between boards.

What's it mean for you.

Well every Panel is guaranteed to have 45 pcbs, so a bonus 5 PCB's.

Some may wish to updated the parts quantities for the extra boards or just have spares for later

Cheers
AussiePhil

[KeithTarpley]

Greetings,,,

Based on the new info from Phil, please update my order to:


Pack1 - 450
Pack2 - 0
Pack3 – 450 (cheapest)

Again, thanks for the work on this.

Keith

[kwajtony]

Okay here we go --

PACK 1 - 100
PACK 2 - 20
PACK 3 - 20 Cheapest

Please update my order to
1 - 130
2 - 130
3 - 130 Cheapest

Thanks.

[ukewarrior]

fathead !!

Your messages folder is full !

[cbell]

Why not follow the crowd?

I'll up from
Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100

to

Pack 1 - 120
Pack 2 - 120
Pack 3 - 120

What the heck, my kids don't need to go to college. Lets go

Pack 1 - 135
Pack 2 - 135
Pack 3 - 135 Cheapest

[solidmodeler]

Please update my order to

Pack1 - 180
Pack2 - 100
Pack3 – 180 -wait for is good

Thanks,
Mike (solidmodeler)

[LabRat]

Given that we get more boards now (yippeee) please ammend my order to

Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100

Thank you again



Pack 1 - 80
Pack 2 - 80
Pack 3 - 80

Thanks

[Jeremy Wiles]

Please amend my order to:
Pack 1: 225
Pack 2: 225
Pack 3: 225 (cheapest)

thanks!

[maffeirw]

Please upgrade my order from:
Pack 1 - 100
Pack 2 - 100
Pack 3 - 100 (Cheapest)
to
Pack 1 - 135
Pack 2 - 135
Pack 3 - 135 (Cheapest)

Thanks again

[bbayliss]

Please upgrade my order from:
Pack 1 - 40
Pack 2 - 40
Pack 3 - 40
to
Pack 1 - 45
Pack 2 - 45
Pack 3 - 45

Thanks again

[aussiephil]

I have closed the Parts buy at ACL - i'll leave it up to Matt to close this one off. Stand by for full tally up of parts and payment details

Cheers
Aussiephil

[fathead45]

thanks phil, ill run this til 5pm cst. i wont be at work all day so i cant see whats going on. so at 5 when i get home it will be closed and ill working on getting payment info out.

thanks alot

[slovanredneck]

I'm in for
200 - pack 1
200 - pack 2
200 - pack 3 (cheapest)

I guess I'm up for adding a few more also. Can you please update my quantities to:

pack 1 - 225
pack 2 - 225
pack 3 - 225 cheapest

[fathead45]

it is now closed. thanks guys.

slovan ill take care of ya.

[mschell]

it is now closed. thanks guys.

slovan ill take care of ya.

Waiting on payment notices....we can't let this slip out into September and still be ready for blinky-flashy...

[aussiephil]

Mark

I have sent FH45 the spreadsheet to use... i'm also keen to get this wrapped up

Cheers
Phil

[fathead45]

new thread posted with payment info. thanks for the patience.

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=12037

oh and my pm is not full anymore

[lizard050]

deleted

[D56VillageNut]

Any updates on this group buy.

Thanks

Alan T

Checked Payment thread. Saw status. No worries.

AT

[Skunberg]

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Default Strobe Group UPDATE - ALL PARTS ARE HERE
Hey guys, been busy with work but finally after all the waiting all parts have arrived. i will be a sorting fool the rest of the weekend trying to push out as many as i can for monday shipment. shipments will start monday and i hope to have all out by weds. again sorry for the wait but i was just waiting on pcbs which have shown up.

i will update everyone as they get shipped. you will also be able to see your tracking info thru paypal. i will be shipping usps priority so most will get by the end of the week.

again sorry for the long wait. you will all be happy when they show up.

[Braveit1]

Did the BOM for resistors on the strobe group buy change? The original BOM called for:
660-RK73H2BTTD33R0F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 33ohms 1% - used for normal 20mA LED's
660-RK73H2BTTD6R98F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 6.98ohms 1% - used for 100mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD2R00F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 2ohms 1% - used for 350mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD1001F | 2 // Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 1Kohms 1% - used with Transistor
290-100K-RC | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/8WATT 100KOHMS 1% - used with transistor

I received the 1001's(1K), 1003's (100K) and 33R's (33ohms) but in place of the 6R98 I got the 7R15 (7.15 ohms) and in place of the 2R I got 2R2 (2.2 ohms), correct? These values are close so I think that right but I'm not an EE.

[ukewarrior]

Those values sound good to me.

Did the BOM for resistors on the strobe group buy change? The original BOM called for:
660-RK73H2BTTD33R0F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 33ohms 1% - used for normal 20mA LED's
660-RK73H2BTTD6R98F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 6.98ohms 1% - used for 100mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD2R00F | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 2ohms 1% - used for 350mA LED
660-RK73H2BTTD1001F | 2 // Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/4watts 1Kohms 1% - used with Transistor
290-100K-RC | 1 //Thick Film Resistors - SMD 1/8WATT 100KOHMS 1% - used with transistor

I received the 1001's(1K), 1003's (100K) and 33R's (33ohms) but in place of the 6R98 I got the 7R15 (7.15 ohms) and in place of the 2R I got 2R2 (2.2 ohms), correct? These values are close so I think that right but I'm not an EE.

[Aurbo99]

Grr,

Some of these parts are now on Back-Order with Mouser.. delivery expected next APRIL..

[dirknerkle]

My package of parts/boards/etc. arrived today - thanks, Matt.

Now I have to try to remember where to look for the other project information and what to do with 'em... :shock:

It ain't easy when the best you can do is remember where you parked your car -- and there's only one parking lot outside your office building...

[ukewarrior]

What parts do you need?
Grr,

Some of these parts are now on Back-Order with Mouser.. delivery expected next APRIL..

[Braveit1]

My package of parts/boards/etc. arrived today - thanks, Matt.

Now I have to try to remember where to look for the other project information and what to do with 'em... :shock:

It ain't easy when the best you can do is remember where you parked your car -- and there's only one parking lot outside your office building...

This is what I'm using:
http://forums.auschristmaslighting.com/index.php/topic,428.0.html
You have to register to see the pictures.

[rkhanso]

Now, I haven't seen a picture of one of these things put together, and can't picture in my head how this clear plastic cover is going to help out other than cover the LED. How does it get mounted to the circuit board? It looks like we need to come up with some sort of housing for a base for the PCB and the clear plastic 'bulb' would mount into that?

A completed picture would be nice. How close to the PCB should I solder the LED? Does it need to stick up a distance to get up into the clear plastic 'bulb'?

Can someone straighten me out on the cover?
Has anyone done a how-to on assembly - I'd hate to assemble 160 of them and find out there's a better or faster way.

[budude]

Now, I haven't seen a picture of one of these things put together, and can't picture in my head how this clear plastic cover is going to help out other than cover the LED. How does it get mounted to the circuit board? It looks like we need to come up with some sort of housing for a base for the PCB and the clear plastic 'bulb' would mount into that?

A completed picture would be nice. How close to the PCB should I solder the LED? Does it need to stick up a distance to get up into the clear plastic 'bulb'?

Can someone straighten me out on the cover?
Has anyone done a how-to on assembly - I'd hate to assemble 160 of them and find out there's a better or faster way.

Phil indicated he was going to create a How-To on his site. He did have one fully made up and the board does stick out a bit but he had it covered over with shrink tubing (I think).

[rkhanso]

OK. Impatiently waiting.....so I'll try one and see what I can come up with.

Another question...anyone know where I may try to get some solder paste in a syringe locally in Minneapolis area? Or if not locally, the best place to buy enough online to build 160 of these strobes? Radio Shack hasn't heard of it. ABC and AEI don't carry it.

Also, did someone end up with an extra 100 1K resistors? I ordered 160 of each kit but only 220 1K Ohm resistors and it looks like I need 320 of them. I'll PM Matt.

[budude]

I got my stuff from Zephyrtronics (http://www.zeph.com/) purely based on what the DLA guys were getting for a project there. How much to get? Heck if I know - I got a single 10cc tube (http://www.zeph.com/zephpaste.htm) for now and when it runs out, I'll know how many I can make... :p The tips (http://www.zeph.com/applicator_tips.htm) are dirt cheap so I got a variety of different ones. I also splurged and got the "power" plunger (http://www.zeph.com/plungers.htm) over the eco plungers since it looked like you could get better control and since I'm a complete noob at it, figured that would be a good thing.

[rkhanso]

OK. I'm a little confused on the parts.
I received
160 2R2
160 7R15
160 33R
160 100k
220 1K

resistors. The only LEDs I purchased were the 1/2 watters. I'm not sure which resistors match up with the 1/2 watt LEDs. Above, another post shows 20, 100 and 350 ma LEDs. Are the 1/2 watters the 100ma and I should use the 7R15 resistor for R2?
And, just so I'm sure of the rest...
R1 = 100k
R2 = 7R15
R3 = 1K0
R4 = 1K0

And, the dot on the PIC (U1) is opposite from the 4-pin header on the end of the PCB?
And, the bar on the LED driver? (U2) is opposite of the 5-pin header on the edge of the PCB?

The Anode of the LED (short leg, right?) goes to pin 2 on the end of the PCB, the Cathode on pin 1? - and the 4 pads between the LED and the LED driver? (U2) are empty?

[lbro]

got it today, thanks Matt & Phil

[Braveit1]

OK. I'm a little confused on the parts.
I received
160 2R2
160 7R15
160 33R
160 100k
220 1K

resistors. The only LEDs I purchased were the 1/2 watters. I'm not sure which resistors match up with the 1/2 watt LEDs. Above, another post shows 20, 100 and 350 ma LEDs. Are the 1/2 watters the 100ma and I should use the 7R15 resistor for R2?
And, just so I'm sure of the rest...
R1 = 100k
R2 = 7R15
R3 = 1K0
R4 = 1K0

And, the dot on the PIC (U1) is opposite from the 4-pin header on the end of the PCB?
And, the bar on the LED driver? (U2) is opposite of the 5-pin header on the edge of the PCB?

The Anode of the LED (short leg, right?) goes to pin 2 on the end of the PCB, the Cathode on pin 1? - and the 4 pads between the LED and the LED driver? (U2) are empty?

On the resisters, replace the "R" with a dot (".") to get the rating. i.e. a 7R15 is a 7.15 ohms resister. The 2R2 or 2.2 ohms is for the 1W leds, the 7R15 or 7.15 ohms is for the .5 watt leds and the 33R or 33 ohms is for the 2 standard leds. The bar on the chip is the side with pin one and is placed on the edge side of the board opposite the P2N2222AG.
I think you don't want to mount the led flush on the board. Bend the leds 90 degrees and have it hang off the board. Slide the cover over the led and then heat shrink from the other side up to and over the cover after you have attached the power wires.

[budude]

If you look up the datasheet the resistor is calculated by R=V/I and V = 0.7v - or to calculate the current it would be I=V/R so:

I = .7/2.2 = 318mA (1W)
I = .7/7.15 = 98mA (1/2W)
I = .7/33 = 21mA (regular LED)

So - - it sounds like the 1W will be over driven just a tad...

[Skunberg]

I've started a new thread under other hardware "Building LED Strobes" to collect all this information in one thread for future searches and move it from group buys. Please copy and paste your posts to this new thread. Thank you!

Brian

[budude]

Good idea! I was going to put one of each "model" together just to compare (all with 1/2W LEDs though) tonight. Note that there is a Wiki page on Phil's site that gives general directions but needs a couple details to be added.