Ren24LSD Parts Group Buy [Archive] - Do It Yourself Christmas Forums

mschell

05-05-2010, 04:39 PM

THIS BUY IS CLOSED. Totals have been posted.

First things first:

Group Buy Rules (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2919): read before posting in this thread.

By participating in this Group Buy all participants agree to release www.doityourselfchristmas.com, its Owners, Administrators, Moderators or any other staff of any and all liability and waive all rights I may have under all laws and governing bodies. By posting in this thread you agree you are entering a binding contract between the Organizer and the Participant.

This is a group buy for the Ren48LSD Parts only. What is a Ren48LSD? It is a 48-channel controller specifically designed to drive Frank's LED SuperStrips (LSD stands for LED Strip Driver btw...). It can drive up to 12 fully populated strips with all 4 channels (RGB+W) at full power using discrete transistors. It was discussed in this thread (http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11014).

The BOM for this is listed in the Ren48LSD PCB group buy thread.

BOM pricing is based on group participation.

All costs are estimated, based on current pricing.

Qty 50 cost is $27/kit.
Qty 30 cost is $28.50/kit.
Qty 1 cost is $52/kit.

Paypal fees, shipping and insurance have been added for all domestic (US) shipments.

International shipping fees will be calculated once the parts come in and are packaged, and will be requested at that time.

This group buy is open until 5/21/2010 8 PM Eastern, unless otherwise indicated by the Organizer. I will not be sending out PMs - check here for the total. I will send out a PM in a few days to remind you, if necessary.

Flat rate Priority Mail boxes will be used to ship the kits. I expect that up to 2 kits should fit into Small size box, and up to 10 should fit into the Medium size.

mschell

05-05-2010, 04:39 PM

The title of the thread and some references accidentally said Ren24. This is a group buy for the Ren48LSD parts only.

Totals have been posted with shipping costs. Prices did not change from the original qty 50.

PayPal id is the same as my username @triad.rr.com. Please include your DIYC username so I can track the orders. PMs will not be sent to each person.

Canada shipping is guestimated. Fees for International shipping will be calculated and requested later.

Final list of orders:

dirknerkle

05-05-2010, 04:54 PM

You're going to go crazy sorting transistors... get a big bottle of Advil NOW...

:lol:

mmulvenna

05-05-2010, 04:58 PM

You're going to go crazy sorting transistors... get a big bottle of Advil NOW...

:lol:

Or maybe WIld Turkey...:p:p

dlovely

05-05-2010, 05:01 PM

Count me in for 1.

Dave

rokkett

05-05-2010, 05:47 PM

Put me down for 4 BOMs. Thanks!

LabRat

05-05-2010, 05:53 PM

Two please!!

budude

05-05-2010, 06:54 PM

You might want to put this into the calendar from the front page.

DIY Guy

05-05-2010, 08:16 PM

Please sign me up for (2) BOM's. Thanks for putting this together!

LabRat

05-05-2010, 08:18 PM

You might want to put this into the calendar from the front page.

Calendar???

WHOAH!!... Where did *THAT* come from?? :cool:

steve_hirst

05-05-2010, 08:21 PM

i'm in for 2

dlovely

05-05-2010, 08:25 PM

Count me in for 1.

Dave

Not sure what I was thinking, I forgot I am in for 2 PCB, so I'll go 2 BOM's. Ordered too much recently to remember what I was planning!!

Dave

dirknerkle

05-05-2010, 10:16 PM

Not sure what I was thinking, I forgot I am in for 2 PCB, so I'll go 2 BOM's. Ordered too much recently to remember what I was planning!!

Dave

That's the LSD part of the board at work...:rolleyes:

budude

05-05-2010, 10:23 PM

HEE HEE HEE - - and so my plot starts spreading it's wings...:twisted:

mschell

05-05-2010, 10:24 PM

You might want to put this into the calendar from the front page.

Done.

tlorek

05-05-2010, 10:40 PM

Always planning ahead...count me in for 2 BOMs.

Thanks!

tjetzer

05-05-2010, 11:07 PM

Count me in for 1.

Thanks
Todd

Dragon88

05-05-2010, 11:10 PM

Something to play with, I am in for 2 kits.

mheuer

05-06-2010, 06:06 AM

I'm in for 2 kits.

Thanks!
Mike.

Skunberg

05-06-2010, 05:43 PM

Put me down for two please.

christmas-light

05-07-2010, 10:46 AM

If we go to 30 kits, Then I am in for 2 kits :D

mschell

05-07-2010, 04:12 PM

re: 30 kits

There's only about $1 difference (per kit) between 20 and 30 kits. Of course, PP and shipping is extra.

Without the latest 2, we're already at 21 kits.

Mark

pmcpa

05-07-2010, 05:07 PM

I'm in for 2 kits

Just a question, does this including PIC programming? I could learn how to do it... just no equipment yet!

Thanks!

mschell

05-07-2010, 05:23 PM

I'm in for 2 kits

Just a question, does this including PIC programming? I could learn how to do it... just no equipment yet!

Thanks!

For you, Matt, I might make an exception. :)

The issue, of course, is what firmware do you want on your chips. There's the standard Renard firmware, the diagnostic FW and the DMX FW. For the DMX variant, you need to also specify the starting DMX address for the first PIC.

So, I wasn't planning to pre-program the PICs, but may work something out...

pmcpa

05-07-2010, 05:25 PM

I'm a NOOB to DIYC... so what ever will play nice on the same network as the REN24LV's RS-485 from LSP

My assumption would be standard Renard Fmw?

christmas-light

05-07-2010, 05:41 PM

re: 30 kits

There's only about $1 difference (per kit) between 20 and 30 kits. Of course, PP and shipping is extra.

Without the latest 2, we're already at 21 kits.

Mark

Okay, then I take 2 kit :D

DIY Guy

05-07-2010, 08:02 PM

I expected the guy who bought 40 PCBs to jump in here.. maybe not? I guess at qty 40 he is his own group buy :D

blickensderfer

05-07-2010, 08:30 PM

I've changed the qty on the controllers. I want to test my setup so I just purchased two boards.

I'll take 2 kits

Thanks,
Dan

brandoon

05-07-2010, 10:26 PM

I'm in for 2. Thanks.

chicken

05-08-2010, 05:32 PM

Mark, put me down for 17 kits (16 + 1 spare parts)

Thanks

budude

05-10-2010, 09:14 PM

I'm a NOOB to DIYC... so what ever will play nice on the same network as the REN24LV's RS-485 from LSP

My assumption would be standard Renard Fmw?

Same source yes - you will need to change to DC operation and flipped outputs (I "think" it's the same options used as the LV) - I'll provide information for that as well as provide the HEX files (DMX and Renard). As long as you're using '1' for the starting addres you won't need to compile your own code.

btw - please put me in for 2 kits worth please.

pmcpa

05-11-2010, 04:23 PM

budude

05-11-2010, 04:45 PM

Yes, Would be using 1 as starting address for this build... forgot about that on the Ren24LV's!!! Guess I'll have to learn real quick how to flash them so I can make sure they are all different ch's!!

You probably won't have to - they are self-addressing so if you daisy-chain them they will automagically pick up the the next address (whether using Renard or DMX protocol). You should be able to leave every PIC in your setup with a starting address of '1' in most cases.

pmcpa

05-11-2010, 04:46 PM

Waoho! good to know!

Bumble Yeti Starman

05-13-2010, 04:09 PM

I'll take one!!!

dreday98

05-13-2010, 07:36 PM

I'll take 5 kits.

howdi124

05-14-2010, 04:15 PM

I will be in for 2 sets thanks.

mikes

05-19-2010, 06:53 AM

I'll take 10 kits. Thanks

mschell

05-19-2010, 11:22 AM

Latest order count posted near top of thread.

This group buy will close on Friday, so please verify that I have your order correct. You only need to post something if it's incorrect or you want to add additional kits.

There were 97 PCBs ordered, so I guess some of you are finding your own components...

DavidHenry

05-20-2010, 07:08 AM

In keeping with my tradition of buy first plan later, I'd like 3 kits.

lizard050

05-20-2010, 01:19 PM

2 kits please.

mschell

05-20-2010, 05:45 PM

Group Buy ends tomorrow night. I don't plan to leave it open past the official close time. Order totals will be calculated based on the final quantity and totals posted shortly after close.

Payments are expected as quickly as possible. If all payments come in over the weekend, then an order for parts will be placed late Sunday or early Monday.

Payments are via PayPal. I'll post my PayPal ID with the totals.
Please indicate your DIYC username on your PayPal payment, and that the payment is for the Ren48LSD BOM Group Buy.

Since this is a new BOM, it's hard to estimate shipping. I will probably error on the high side, and issue refunds if more kits fit into a smaller package.

For foreign shipments, I'll be waiting to charge shipping fees until after the parts are received and packaged up. However, you will be required to pay for the parts order amount immediately.

mschell

05-21-2010, 09:58 PM

This group buy is officially closed.

Please check your order quantity in reply #2 of this thread.

Final expected cost will be posted shortly.

73 kits were ordered. Quantity pricing may make it possible to order a few extra kits that may be available after all orders are filled.

mschell

05-22-2010, 01:06 PM

Totals are now posted in reply #2.

I will not be sending out a PM to every participant. I will try to send out reminders towards the end of next week.

Parts orders cannot be placed until payment is received from all participants.

christmas-light

05-22-2010, 01:45 PM

Payment sent :D

budude

05-22-2010, 03:27 PM

Paid - thanks Mark!

dlovely

05-22-2010, 05:30 PM

Paid up, Thanks!

pmcpa

05-22-2010, 07:43 PM

Paid! Thanks!

steve_hirst

05-22-2010, 08:50 PM

payment sent
thanks

mschell

05-24-2010, 12:20 PM

Updated totals with payments shown.

Please check to see what your total is, and submit payment now.

Thanks,

howdi124

05-24-2010, 04:12 PM

payment sent

blickensderfer

05-24-2010, 09:53 PM

payment sent

mikes

05-24-2010, 10:49 PM

payment sent

Dragon88

05-25-2010, 12:33 AM

Paid in full

Thanks

LabRat

05-25-2010, 05:42 AM

KaCHING ... paid.

mschell

05-25-2010, 10:58 AM

payment sent

Mike,
I am also sending you a PM. I don't see your payment in my PayPal account as of this morning, 5/25. Check to see where you sent it.

Mark

tjetzer

05-25-2010, 10:59 AM

Paid yesterday.

deplanche

05-25-2010, 12:08 PM

Looks like I forgot to post that I wanted in on this. If there are any extras, I'd be in for 2 to go with the PCBs i ordered.

mschell

05-25-2010, 05:58 PM

There's an outside chance I will have a few extra kits. In several cases, the components were cheaper if I pushed the quantity up to the next price break, and so might have enough of mostly everything to build a few kits.

I'm also looking at several options for some of the components - items that are out of stock or only partially available at Mouser, or may be cheaper to get somewhere else.

Won't know about any extras until after the orders have been placed, which won't happen until I get payment from the current participants.

tlorek

05-25-2010, 08:47 PM

Payment sent.

Thanks!

Bumble Yeti Starman

05-25-2010, 09:36 PM

Payment sent!!!!

mschell

05-26-2010, 01:30 PM

3 people left to pay. mikes - never got your payment. You have a PM.

Skunberg

05-26-2010, 11:26 PM

Paid, sorry for holding up the show.

mschell

05-27-2010, 08:08 PM

mikes,
Just got the payment posted in PayPal from Australia...

One more person to pay.

I've started the transfer of most of the $ to my bank so I can pay Mouser!

dreday98

05-31-2010, 09:15 AM

Sorry for the delay, I've been out of town on business. I'm paid in full.

mschell

05-31-2010, 06:00 PM

All participants have paid. Orders for parts should be placed tomorrow (Tuesday).

mschell

06-01-2010, 09:44 PM

Order has been placed with suppliers. A few items were backordered at Mouser, so I found another place with availability.

mschell

06-03-2010, 07:47 PM

Orders have shipped and are expected Friday or Monday.

However, sorting will take a little time and won't start till at least late next week. Work schedule is busy next week with some travel, which will slow things down. Also have another group buy of LEDs to finish first.

budude

06-03-2010, 08:04 PM

mschell

06-03-2010, 10:21 PM

It's those 3600 transistors that I'm looking forward to sorting, that's all!!!

mschell

06-11-2010, 05:09 PM

Just an update. Due to life and other things, sorting hasn't even begun. I am hoping to get started this weekend, but no promises.

As some may have seen my note a few months ago, I recently had a heart issue. I've been doing OK, but my cardiologist has scheduled a procedure for next Thursday to try and get my heart beating regularly and in sync. That will take me out for a few days.

But rest assured the parts will be on their way soon.

dirknerkle

06-11-2010, 06:03 PM

Mark,
Take care of yourself. We'll send some prayers your way, too... that your physician can figure out this heard arryhthmia...

dave

budude

06-11-2010, 06:04 PM

Mark,
Take care of yourself. We'll send some prayers your way, too... that your physician can figure out this heard arryhthmia...

dave

Yeah - echo that - - the silly parts can wait man!

Skunberg

06-12-2010, 11:24 AM

Thank you for the update! No rush on the parts, health and family come first. We've all been there and will be again.
Brian

mschell

06-22-2010, 07:42 AM

Minor update - all of the 3600 470 Ohm resistors have been sorted. Next on the list is the 3600 MPA transistors. The RJ45's are already done, so once the big qty items are done, it will all be downhill from there...

mschell

06-24-2010, 04:55 PM

Yet another update - all the transistors have been sorted, as well as the terminal blocks. So major progress is being made. I expect that stuff should start shipping early next week!

Getting ready to do the IC sockets. So I should be able to determine sizes for boxes soon, and get PMs/emails out for international shipping costs...

mschell

06-30-2010, 08:45 AM

OK, we're down to the home stretch. The chips and sockets are being bagged after getting a great deal from a local foam supplier for the conductive foam to hold the chips.

Then the boxes need to be packed with all the items and they'll be going off to be shipped.

Thanks for your patience...

mschell

06-30-2010, 10:33 PM

Boxes have been packed. International shipping is being calculated.

Even tho you may receive an email from PayPal saying it has been shipped, boxes go to the Post Office on Thursday or Friday.

tjetzer

06-30-2010, 10:34 PM

Boxes have been packed. International shipping is being calculated.

Even tho you may receive an email from PayPal saying it has been shipped, boxes go to the Post Office on Thursday or Friday.

Works for me, Thanks!

mschell

07-01-2010, 08:06 PM

All US shipments (with the exception of one where an address is in question) were dropped off at the post office today.

pmcpa

07-03-2010, 08:15 PM

Parts arrived today in PA! Thanks!

mschell

07-03-2010, 10:43 PM

DIY Guy

07-04-2010, 08:17 AM

Received a box o' parts yesterday. Haven't opened it yet, but Thanks!

mschell

07-08-2010, 08:22 AM

All domestic packages have gone out, with the exception of lizard050, whose box goes out today. LabRat, your box goes out today as well.

International folks, howdi124, mikes, and christmas-light, you have an email or PM with your shipping costs. Once I get payment, your boxes will be in the mail.

For those that were shipped last week, I show all but 2 have been delivered. Notices were left for those last 2, so check your mailbox!

LabRat

07-08-2010, 08:51 AM

Woo hooo... thanks for the timely update!! :-D

mschell

07-12-2010, 08:50 PM

International packages went to the post office today, so all items have been shipped.

Let me know if you haven't gotten your package.

Skunberg

07-13-2010, 07:59 PM

Thank you so very much for this group buy mschell!!!

deplanche

07-14-2010, 12:05 AM

Matt,
Glad it made it. A number of the packages should have made it to most folks. A few will take till Tuesday.

One minor detail - I didn't get a chance to program any of the PICs, so you'll need to get someone to program them for you....

I have a Pickit2, but no socket at this point, so I think this is a perfect time to get one. Any suggestions on what socket to get? I have seen several out there, but not sure what size i need for these pics.

mschell

07-14-2010, 08:16 AM

I would highly recommend Joshua 1 Systems ICSP adapters. It's the guy who has posted here in the Vendor area for the EtherConSys.

He has an excellent webpage (http://www.joshua1systems.com) and sells via an eBay store. A year or so ago, I bought the full "package" of the 14, 20, 28, and 40 pin adapters. I made a mistake and ordered the wrong thing - he responded quickly via email, refunded my payment and shipped out the correct item the next day.

The PICs for most of the Renards are 14 pin.

christmas-light

07-17-2010, 12:33 PM

Got my parts here in Denmark to day, THANKS :D

LabRat

07-17-2010, 12:38 PM

I have a Pickit2, but no socket at this point, so I think this is a perfect time to get one. Any suggestions on what socket to get? I have seen several out there, but not sure what size i need for these pics.

Multi-ZIF socket - connects direct to the PicKit2 (or 3) (http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=22)

I purchased mine from here. The only drawback is that the plastic shield makes it hard to get at the ZIF handles. I have never regretted the purchase.

budude

07-17-2010, 01:00 PM

Multi-ZIF socket - connects direct to the PicKit2 (or 3) (http://www.sureelectronics.net/goods.php?id=22)

I purchased mine from here. The only drawback is that the plastic shield makes it hard to get at the ZIF handles. I have never regretted the purchase.

+1 on that - I have the same - but the first thing that came off was that stupid shield. I programmed six PICs in about 2 minutes the other day...

oldcqr

07-17-2010, 02:05 PM

+1 on that - I have the same - but the first thing that came off was that stupid shield. I programmed six PICs in about 2 minutes the other day...

+2

I have the exact same one, and I too took off the shield. The only problem I had with that board is that mine did not come with the connector cable that goes between the board and the PicKit2. Instead I have to kind of 'force' the programmer onto the pins on the top. As long as you are careful you don't wack the thing, it works well.

You can power through Pics like there is no tomorrow with it. It takes longer to remove the Pic from the controller than it does to slap it into the programmer, program, verify, and replace.

budude

07-17-2010, 02:33 PM

+The only problem I had with that board is that mine did not come with the connector cable that goes between the board and the PicKit2. Instead I have to kind of 'force' the programmer onto the pins on the top. As long as you are careful you don't wack the thing, it works well.

I made an extender using these (http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1804) and these (http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1905) - you can get the smaller set of wires but I liked the colored ones so I could color code them. You can get single pin connectors also to make simple jumpers - very handy...