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smartalec
04-20-2010, 11:55 PM
since mouser dont have the part anymore.
i have found 2 other places that have the part, but i dont know if there any good as a supplier.
these are the 2 places i house found
http://parts.digikey.com/1/parts/1016234-mosfet-n-ch-60v-20a-to220fp-stf20nf06.html
an this place seems to have a list of different companys who apparently have them
http://www.partnoic.com/icku-STF20NF06.html

im just wondering if anyone has ever brought from these companys, an if there any good.

thanks alec.

ErnieHorning
04-21-2010, 01:10 AM
Digi-Key is a reliable company, though they're prices are typically higher then Mouser. They're located just north of me. I believe they started out as a hobbyist type company. We use them at work because they can deliver high quantity in a short time. At work, time is money so the cost is more irrelevant.

The Chinese company I've never heard of.

On your side of the pond, you might also check out Farnell. They're know as Newark on this side. Again they're a bit high. Their search engine is one of the worst so I use Goggle to find what I need. Another one I use at work.

smartalec
04-21-2010, 01:38 AM
mouser wants 30bucks just for postage, but dont have that part, but they do have the subute part of FQPF13N06L going fotr like 58bucks for 100 of them.
the postage is what i dont like
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Digi-Key is a reliable company, though they're prices are typically higher then Mouser. They're located just north of me. I believe they started out as a hobbyist type company. We use them at work because they can deliver high quantity in a short time. At work, time is money so the cost is more irrelevant.

The Chinese company I've never heard of.

On your side of the pond, you might also check out Farnell. They're know as Newark on this side. Again they're a bit high. Their search engine is one of the worst so I use Goggle to find what I need. Another one I use at work.

Matt_Edwards
04-21-2010, 03:21 AM
I have some STP40NF10L coming in.
Breif Spec
# Max Voltage Vds:100V
# Transistor Case Style:TO-220
# Cont Current Id:40A
# Max Voltage Vgs th:2.5V
# On State Resistance @ Vgs = 4.5V:0.035ohm


AU $77 per 100 delivered.

smartalec
04-21-2010, 03:24 AM
is that throu mouser or another mob?
thanks


I have some STP40NF10L coming in.
Breif Spec
# Max Voltage Vds:100V
# Transistor Case Style:TO-220
# Cont Current Id:40A
# Max Voltage Vgs th:2.5V
# On State Resistance @ Vgs = 4.5V:0.035ohm


AU $77 per 100 delivered.

smartalec
04-21-2010, 03:31 AM
has anyone ever tryed doing a coop for the fets, since getting over 1000 makes them even cheaper, an that would only be like 10 people wanting 100 each

LabRat
04-21-2010, 08:31 AM
Digi-Key is a reliable company, though they're prices are typically higher then Mouser. They're located just north of me. I believe they started out as a hobbyist type company. We use them at work because they can deliver high quantity in a short time. At work, time is money so the cost is more irrelevant.

The Chinese company I've never heard of.

On your side of the pond, you might also check out Farnell. They're know as Newark on this side. Again they're a bit high. Their search engine is one of the worst so I use Goggle to find what I need. Another one I use at work.

Digikey = higher price... lower shipping.

There's a curve here so that if you are dealing with smaller orders, they are actually cheaper than Mouser. But very quickly the cost savings at mouser will add up to save you more thank the higher shipping charge(s). I've used both and consider both to be reliable (though I will never use Mouser's USPS shipping again as my parts took so long to get here that even Mouser thought they were lost, so sent me replacement parts).

smartalec
04-21-2010, 09:22 AM
Digikey = higher price... lower shipping.

There's a curve here so that if you are dealing with smaller orders, they are actually cheaper than Mouser. But very quickly the cost savings at mouser will add up to save you more thank the higher shipping charge(s). I've used both and consider both to be reliable (though I will never use Mouser's USPS shipping again as my parts took so long to get here that even Mouser thought they were lost, so sent me replacement parts).

thats not bad if you get 2 lots of parts for the price of one..lol

LabRat
04-21-2010, 09:52 AM
thats not bad if you get 2 lots of parts for the price of one..lol

In the end I *did* get two sets (and offered to pay for both). But I lost a lot of time waiting ... and waiting... and waiting. The so called "tracking" system was a joke, as there was a record that USPS had been told about the package, and that was it. No further records in the database until it arrived at my door weeks later (three days after the overnight rushed replacement parts arrived).

I will certainly deal with Mouser again (and have)... I just won't use the Parcel Post option anymore. :)

kamahilights
04-22-2010, 06:30 AM
http://www.futurlec.com.au/index.jsp

They don't have the range of Mouser but you will like the pricing and love the delivery charges!

Also check out http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/StoreFront

smartalec
04-22-2010, 06:58 AM
im guessing both site's have different part numbers.
so its going to be a slow process
thanks heaps.


http://www.futurlec.com.au/index.jsp

They don't have the range of Mouser but you will like the pricing and love the delivery charges!

Also check out http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/StoreFront

smartalec
04-22-2010, 08:12 AM
OK it looks like i might need help from the experts here for a substitute parts.
im guessing the trigger voltage or the resistance might make a problem or 2

RFS640 MOSFET 0.18 Ohm 18A 200V N-channel TO-220IS-3 IRFS640

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/the-1406/mosfet-POWER-MOSFET-N-dsh-CH/Detail


STP55NF06 MOSFET 18 mOhm 50A 60V N-channel TO-220-3 STP55NF06

http://www.taydaelectronics.com/servlet/the-1418/mosfet-POWER-MOSFET-N-dsh-CH/Detail

this one sounds simular
N-channel 60V - 0.06Ω - 20A - TO-220/TO-220FP STripFET™ II Power MOSFET


http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/11035/stp20nf06.htm

Question, what am i realy looking for?? the trigger pin, or the amps an volts it can handle?

it seemed like a easy task to start off with, now i think i might be in over my head.

Please Help..

smartalec
04-22-2010, 07:14 PM
Im guessing i would need different resistors when using the different type of mosfets.

I cant belive for something so easy, it's turning into a hard challange for me.

Matt_Edwards
04-22-2010, 08:16 PM
If you are happy to wait until the Melb Mini, we can probably sit down and go through your options and what needs to be considered when designing or moding a cct.

The areas requiring attention for the FETs are:
Ron
Id
Vgs

The series resistors on the gate are not that critical.

smartalec
04-22-2010, 08:25 PM
if they still work with the DCSSR design done by Wjohn, i could wait, at the moment im in the stock pileing boards an get the parts later on.
i thought it wouldn't be as easy as a different mosfet an resistor.
thanks for offering your help matt.


If you are happy to wait until the Melb Mini, we can probably sit down and go through your options and what needs to be considered when designing or moding a cct.

The areas requiring attention for the FETs are:
Ron
Id
Vgs

The series resistors on the gate are not that critical.

uziman
04-26-2010, 05:41 AM
Futurlec have the BUZ71 Mosfet. It has similar ratings except it's only 14A unit and the tab is not isolated.
It is in my Aussie BOM list for John's DCSSR which i was going to build this time last year but never got around to checking if they actually worked . In fact everything in my list is from Futurlec.

Have you tried Farnell and RS Components at all?

smartalec
04-26-2010, 06:18 AM
Main thing i noticed with the BUZ71 is
rDS(ON) = 0.100Ω

where the STF20NF06 is
rDS(on) = 0.06 Ω

i think i'll wait till after the melb mini , when the experts are able to spend time working it all out for us.


Futurlec have the BUZ71 Mosfet. It has similar ratings except it's only 14A unit and the tab is not isolated.
It is in my Aussie BOM list for John's DCSSR which i was going to build this time last year but never got around to checking if they actually worked . In fact everything in my list is from Futurlec.

Have you tried Farnell and RS Components at all?

Farnell is great with speed an postage but charge for it.
an RS Componets dont have the part

fj
05-14-2010, 09:56 PM
in the wiki there is a suggested replacement for the STN20NF06. why isn't anyone considering that one?

"RFD14N05L, as part # 512-RFP14N05L"

smartalec
05-14-2010, 10:11 PM
in the wiki there is a suggested replacement for the STN20NF06. why isn't anyone considering that one?

"RFD14N05L, as part # 512-RFP14N05L"

have you checked the suggested part, thats out of stock like the orginal part
so it makes it a bit hard

fj
05-14-2010, 10:51 PM
oh sorry i didn't see that. i could have sworn i saw it as just out of stock. obviously not !!

smartalec
05-15-2010, 01:00 AM
Aussiephil was showing me what parts could be used, but in the end i ended up buying phils old stock (simular part, needs testing out first)
since he's moved onto SMD now days.
the opto's are just as hard to find, mouser seems to be the cheapest way, an i checked out a couple.
the K847P opto, i see there now using a til199 in the latest dcssr designs tho.

RPM
05-16-2010, 01:30 AM
FWIW,

I use the 512-FQPF13N06L from Mouser in my DCSSR's.

Aurbo99
05-20-2010, 12:34 PM
RPM

Any additional changes needed to use the 512-FQPF13N06L with the DCSSR Bom?

rstehle
05-20-2010, 03:41 PM
Just an FYI. Digikey (http://search.digikey.com/scripts/DkSearch/dksus.dll?lang=en&site=US&WT.z_homepage_link=hp_go_button&KeyWords=STF20NF06&x=19&y=16)still has the original Mosfet - STF20NF06 - in stock.

RPM
05-21-2010, 02:30 AM
RPM

Any additional changes needed to use the 512-FQPF13N06L with the DCSSR Bom?

No, they are fine as is.