Frank's LED Super Strip 5mm Super Flux White & Warm White LED ONLY Coop

[tjetzer]

This group buy is now closed!!! Thank you to everyone for quick payment. Look for more information on page 3

Group Buy Rules: read before posting in this thread (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2919)

By participating in this Group Buy all participants agree to release www.doityourselfchristmas.com (http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com), it’s Owners, Administrators, Moderators or any other staff of any and all liability and waive all rights I may have under all laws and governing bodies. By posting in this thread you agree you are entering a binding contract between the Organizer and the Participant.

As per coop rules, this coop is limited to 50 participants or 150 sets of LEDs. If either of those limits are reached to coop will be closed.

Details as are follows:

The Co-Op set of 60 5mm Super Flux White or Warm White LEDs cost will be $7.00 per set with a flat rate of $6.00 for shipping. If you are also buying RGB LEDs from the other coop I will include these LEDs in shipping to save you even more money. That means total shipping for both coops would be $6.

This Co-Op is for your choice white and/or warm white LEDs. This pricing is based on 1000 total LEDs. Should the co-op go over 1000 LEDs, and the overall price is reduced, everyone will receive a partial refund.

Please note, this Co-Op is for the White/Warm White LEDs ONLY!
Please post your orders in this thread. I will be sending PMs with my PayPal address once I receive your order. Please include your preferred LED type (white and/or warm white) and your DIYC user name with your payment.

This Co-Op will End MOnday, March 1st at 10:00PM CST. The order will be placed on Tuesday March 2nd at Noon CST. Your LEDs will not be included in the order if payment has not been received!!

I will ship the LEDs within 3 days after I have received them.

Board Info and BOM
http://www.kostyun.com/led-displays/rgbw-flood-strip/

Board Info/Discussion Threads
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7288&highlight=strip+flood

http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6272&highlight=strip+flood

Participants
username -color of led - quantity
(red = paid)


tjetzer - white - 4
budude - white - 7
DIY Guy - white - 3
DIY Guy - warm white - 1
Skunberg - warm white - 3
kychristmas - white - 2
kychristmas - warm white - 2
RichF - white - 4
chicken - white - 2
chicken - warm white - 2
dlovely - warm white - 4
dlovely - misc. - 5
Dragon88 - warm white - 5
Dragon88 - white - 5
mheuer - white - 2
brandoon- warm white - 4
rokkett - white - 5
pmcpa - warm white - 2
LabRat - warm white - 4
mschell - warm white - 11
fathead45 - white - 1
dreday98 - warm white - 3
dreday98 - white - 3
deplanche - warm white - 2
DavidHenry - white - 1
DavidHenry - warm white - 1
Elmo2resc - white - 3
Emlo2resc - warm white - 3




Thanks
Todd

[budude]

Wow - - deja-vu! :rolleyes:

I will take 7 sets of regular White - ugh - more soldering...

[DIY Guy]

Please put me down for (3) sets white, (1) set warm white

[Skunberg]

Put me down for 2 sets of warm white.

[kychristmas]

I would like 2 sets of White and 2 Sets of Warm White

[Skunberg]

Make that 3 sets of warm white. Thank you.

[chicken]

I am in for 2 sets of warm and 2 sets of white. Thanks

[RichF]

I will take 4 of these also.

[tjetzer]

I will take 4 of these also.

Which do you prefer, white, warm white, or a combination?

[dlovely]

In for 4 sets of warm white.

[Dragon88]

I am in for 10 sets, 5 warm and 5 white.

[mheuer]

2 Sets of white for me.
Thanks!

[brandoon]

I'd like 4 warm white sets, thanks.

[tjetzer]

Wow, these coop sure took off last night!

Keep the orders coming! The more orders we get the better price (bigger refund) everyone will get!

Thanks
Todd

[rokkett]

I am in for 5 sets of white...

[dlovely]

In for additional quantity of 5 as discussed in PMs. Additional payment sent.

[pmcpa]

I'm in for 2 sets orders of WW led's (I ordered 2 sets boards... I take it that is 6 boards??)

[Skunberg]

If I may be so bold, what's "- misc. - 5"

Would this be UV?

[tjetzer]

There is one week left for this coop. It looks like we will not hit the 150 kit limit so this coop will close at 10:00PM CST on Monday March 1st.

Get your orders in this week!

[LabRat]

4 sets WARM WHITE please

[mschell]

I'm in for 11 sets of warm white

Mark

[dreday98]

3 sets of white
3 sets of w. white

Thanks

[deplanche]

2 sets of warm white please.

[Elmo2resc]

Put me in for:
3 White
3 Warm White

Thanks, Jerome

[tjetzer]

Alright, we've got one day until the coop closes. All orders must be placed by 10:00 PM Central time tomorrow. All payments are due by noon on Tuesday March 2nd. I will then be contacting the seller and placing the order. If your payment is not in your LEDs will NOT BE ORDERED

[fathead45]

ill take 1 white set as well.

[fathead45]

money sent for set of white. thanks

[DavidHenry]

In for 2 sets, 1 white, 1 warm white. (also posting in the other thread)

[Elmo2resc]

Money sent for
3 warm white and 3 white

[tjetzer]

This group buy is now CLOSED! Thank you to everyone for paying rapidly. Everyone got their payment in before the deadline, so all LEDs will be ordered!

I will be placing an order for over 10,000 LEDs! Because of the size of the order it will take a little longer to arrive at everyone's door step. The seller has agreed to prepackage all LEDs in groups of 60 so my turnaround time will be very fast. The seller states it will take 11-12 days for me to receive them. I will have all orders shipped within 36 hour of receiving the LEDs. Most participants should have their LEDs delivered around March 20th.

[tjetzer]

OK, the LEDs have been ordered (For a few days already) and should be shipping to me within 3 days. I'm going to start getting labels and boxes ready so they're good to go when the LEDs get here.

I will also be working on getting the refunds out to everyone this weekend. The refund will be $0.50 per set of White LEDs and $0.75 per set of Warm White LEDs.

[LabRat]

OK, the LEDs have been ordered (For a few days already) and should be shipping to me within 3 days. I'm going to start getting labels and boxes ready so they're good to go when the LEDs get here.

I will also be working on getting the refunds out to everyone this weekend. The refund will be $0.50 per set of White LEDs and $0.75 per set of Warm White LEDs.

That "little voice" in the back of my head says that waiting until everything is ready to ship/has been paid for would be prudent. What if you need more labels, tape, boxes etc.

I'm in no rush here.. so waiting until you are sure you have all costs covered is fine by me.

[DavidHenry]

My little voice says that Paypal will probably benefit more from that refund than I would.

I'd propose that if the refund is going to be under a couple bucks, that it be donated to keep the message boards running.

[DavidHenry]

Did you by chance end up with any extras? I realized sometime today, that I was going to ditch the C7's and use a high powered warm LED in each of my pumpkin's for Halloween this year. I'd like to pick up another set (I'd probably live with a partial set) of Warm White.

[chicken]

I agree I am up for donating my group buy refund to DIYC. Anyone else up for joining in to help out DIYC.

[fathead45]

you can donate my extra to the forum. .50 is not enough to mess with to me, lol

[dirknerkle]

Instead of donating the group buy savings to DIYC, why not just become a supporting member? It's the best $20 you could ever spend.

[fathead45]

good point. just send it to me and i will then send it to become a supporting member. can anyone link me to the supporting member info.

[RichF]

I concur with everyone else. it will cost .75 to send .50

either keep it or make your self a contributing member

[dirknerkle]

good point. just send it to me and i will then send it to become a supporting member. can anyone link me to the supporting member info.

Go to your User CP; down at the bottom left is a place where you can sign up as a supporting member, called "Paid Subscriptions".

[mschell]

It doesn't costs anything for the receiver of the money to send it back to your PayPal account as a refund. And he'll get a refund of some of his PayPal fees when he does that.

I would certainly favor giving it back to the buyers, and letting each decide if he/she wants to give it to DIYC, or some other worthwhile cause.

[budude]

I would suggest the refunds go back to everyone as planned - - do I need/want the refund - NO - do I want to make more work for Todd - NO - do I work for PayPal - NO - but it keeps the entire transaction clean and unquestionable.

Brian

[tjetzer]

I agree with the two previous posters.

I am not going to dictate nor influence where everyone's refund is going to go. I started the group buy under the pretense that the excess would be returned to the group and that is what I intend to do.

As everyone knows, group buys take a lot of work. I really don't want to create another spreadsheet to track who wants their refund to go where. If you wish your refund to go to DIYC that's great. When you get your refund send it to DIYC.

Due to home projects taking longer to complete then planned (When don't they?!?!) the refunds will be issued tomorrow.



Thanks
Todd

[LabRat]

Apologies for apparently opening this can of worms. I was only trying to say I'm happy to wait, if you wanted to wait to see if any additional (unexpected) costs popped up.

Thanks for running the co-op.

[tjetzer]

LabRat,

It's all good. Check your PMs.

[budude]

Apologies for apparently opening this can of worms. I was only trying to say I'm happy to wait, if you wanted to wait to see if any additional (unexpected) costs popped up.

Thanks for running the co-op.

Well - this I certainly agree with! While no one is expected to make money on coops, it certainly isn't right that they should lose any either. I'm in no hurry - please make sure all your costs are covered!

[tjetzer]

Refunds have been issued. If you have any questions or concerns please send me a PM.

Thanks
Todd

[tjetzer]

I received an email from the supplier. He has not received the LEDs from the manufacturer. He says he expects them in 2 days. I will keep everyone updated.

Thanks
Todd

[tjetzer]

I have been notified the LEDs are on their way to me now. The supplier is claiming I should see them within 3 days. If that is the case expect yours to be mailed to you the begining of next week!

[DavidHenry]

If anyone ordered extra Warm White (1/2 populated, right?), please let me know, I didn't get enough of these for one of my other projects.

[tjetzer]

Here's a quiz for everyone...

What do 10,000+ SuperFlux LEDs look like?

(Hard drive used for size comparison)


I will start sending out packages tomorrow!

[LabRat]

What's the little white object on the right?

[tjetzer]

What's the little white object on the right?

A protector cap from a 12v battery for a UPS.

[RichF]

Are they all sorted as was promised from the supplier?

[tjetzer]

Are they all sorted as was promised from the supplier?

They are all in anti-static bags in groups of 60 clearly marked. The supplier did a GREAT job.

[tjetzer]

Alright, a good portion of the LEDs have been packaged for shipping. There are a few smaller orders that I will stick in envelopes and get ready for shipping. All LEDs will be in the mail tomorrow.

[tjetzer]

All LEDs have been shipped! You should receive them in a few days!

Thanks
Todd

[ukewarrior]

Thanks Todd!

[budude]

ATTENTION!!!

I installed a Cool White LED into one of my strips with a 100ohm resistor and found it was not working. I eventually found that THE LEDs DO NOT FOLLOW THE SILKSCREEN! If you look at the silk there is corner chopped off the normally square package to indicate the orientation (see attachment). I found that this is 180deg out - in other words you need to install the LEDs upside down from what is shown on the silk. Note that this was not the case for the RGB LEDs that were installed.

I've said this multiple times but cannot stress enough - when you build your strips do a single LED/resistor combo and test it before building up the entire strip. It's very hard to remove these LEDs - I had to cut off the leads and yank on them with pliers to get it out. When you're testing, just solder in the resistor and hold the LED by finger pressure to make sure it's right first.

If/When you other folks get your strips it would be to good to confirm that you are seeing the same thing. The only thing I can guess is that Frank was using different LEDs (both RGB and White) when he did his builds and they followed a different pinout for whatever reason.

[fathead45]

thanks budude. ill try it when i get my strips.

got my leds yesterday, thanks

[RichF]

Is your Picture Correctly installed or incorrectly installed?. Looks like the corner is the the correct place in the picture I see.

[LabRat]

I believe those are the RGB's... the "white" leds are the non-populated spots.

*IF* these pinouts out out of whack, can this be resolved via a simple rotation? Or do we need to barnacle and/or cut traces?

[budude]

I believe those are the RGB's... the "white" leds are the non-populated spots.

*IF* these pinouts out out of whack, can this be resolved via a simple rotation? Or do we need to barnacle and/or cut traces?

Correct - sorry if that was not clear - the picture shows the empty White location and it works fine if you install the LED upside down to the silk pattern. I don't have a picture of one installed but it's pretty straightforward.

EDIT - added picture of flipped LED.

[RichF]

Ok so the white LEDs need to be with the notched corner rotated 180 degrees.

[michaelc]

I was watching a video of how to waterproof the smart string pixels using the liquid Plastic product. It got my little mind thinking. Can anyone think of a reason why you couldn't use the same product to waterproof your Superstrips. Several coats of this plastic might remove the need for the Fluorecent Tubes.

Has anyone tried this crazy idea? Would there be an issue with the resistors getting too hot? IF this worked, surface mounting these strips on a soffit would be much easier and have a much smaller profile.

[soakes94]

I was watching a video of how to waterproof the smart string pixels using the liquid Plastic product. It got my little mind thinking. Can anyone think of a reason why you couldn't use the same product to waterproof your Superstrips. Several coats of this plastic might remove the need for the Fluorecent Tubes.

Has anyone tried this crazy idea? Would there be an issue with the resistors getting too hot? IF this worked, surface mounting these strips on a soffit would be much easier and have a much smaller profile.

I like this idea! I was looking at the cost of plastic tube and it wasn't cheap and it would make the strips a lot more obvious. I would be running my strips on 5V so I wouldn't see there being any heat issues as the stuff can be heated up to +93ºc and the 5V versions seem to keep cool.

I would be interested in knowing if someone has done this and how it preformed before I start dipping.

Steve

[budude]

It may work - but the tubes are nice in that the keep the strip clean and out of the elements. I think it's pretty easy to mount the tubes as well and it makes them much easier to "aim" than if you mounted them directly to the house.

I honestly didn't think the tubes (http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=141&) were all that pricey. They are $5.75/6 foot which gives you four tubes (w/o tax/shipping). I'm lucky in that I have four of the TapPlastic stores nearby but I don't think shipping was too bad...

Anyway - just make sure you think the whole thing through on mounting and the wiring involved if you go 'au naturale'...

[michaelc]

bubude, the thing is you are lucky in that you have exposed rafters. I have boxed vinyl soffits. A tube hanging down will stick out like a sore thumb. I was thinking the flatter profile could be mounted to the metal lip holding the soffit. I also don't want to shoot myself in the proverbial foot. The Superstrips will be a significant investment (when boards are available again) and I don't want to mess them up.

[rjchu]

Which tubes are they? (I assume 1" diameter based on the price you quote) and cut at what length? Also, do the end caps come from the same place? Is there anything else one would need to enclose/mount these strips?

Thanks!

-joni-




It may work - but the tubes are nice in that the keep the strip clean and out of the elements. I think it's pretty easy to mount the tubes as well and it makes them much easier to "aim" than if you mounted them directly to the house.

I honestly didn't think the tubes (http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/product.php?pid=141&) were all that pricey. They are $5.75/6 foot which gives you four tubes (w/o tax/shipping). I'm lucky in that I have four of the TapPlastic stores nearby but I don't think shipping was too bad...

Anyway - just make sure you think the whole thing through on mounting and the wiring involved if you go 'au naturale'...

[dlovely]

I ordered some from TAP on Brian's advice, I got 1" od x 6' 1/16" wall (SKU 23299) and they cut it to 18" lengths. Shipping to NE cost $9.09.


Which tubes are they? (I assume 1" diameter based on the price you quote) and cut at what length? Also, do the end caps come from the same place? Is there anything else one would need to enclose/mount these strips?

Thanks!

-joni-