SSRez Coop Interest

[g2ktcf]

Okay folks, I have to know how many are actually interested in this. I suspect the interest will be much larger than the coops can be but until I need to know how many are interested so I can plan how to do this. Just reply and let me know how many you would be interested in. This would be for the PCB, the parts and an option for the enclosure just like last time.

The timeframe for this is would be orders in May for delivery in late June.

Thanks,
Chris

[cbell]

I would probably be in for 10-16 sets.

For anyone looking, here is the thread from the last coop that gives some idea of price
http://doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7422

and here is the thread that talks about the design of the board
http://www.doityourselfchristmas.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7172

[Warlock]

I'd be in for at least 10...Thanks for trying to arrange this

[rbatch]

I would be intreasted in 4

[keebler]

its probably redundant, but count me in!!!!

[keebler]

here is the link for the SSREZ.
this is similar to the one we used last year, and worked great i might add.
http://christmasinshirley.com/wiki/index.php?title=SSRez

best of luck to a VERY successful co-op my friend!

[rstehle]

Chris, (g2ktcf)
Your PM box is full..........

[RickeyS]

Can I order just PCB's? If so I'll take 10 as I already have most parts.
Thanks
Rick

[kylenewman]

I might be interested depending on the price i'm looking to probably get around 64 of these. When the pricing details are more finalized i'd be able to give a 100% on the amount i'd like to order.

[rjchu]

I've already got the blank boards from a previous buy with wjohn but assuming prices scale down for the group buy I'd be interested in a few more PCB's and parts for all the ones I have. Let's say:

4 x SSRez PCB's
30 x part sets (enough to make 30 SSRez's)
10-20 x enclosures

Thanks,

-joni-

[lbro]

I willing to help again, just need to do smaller batches this time.

[mmais68569]

Is there any place I can buy the complete kits now so I can get started converting my LOR over, & not have to wait till June. I am new to the DIY & want time to get this down otherwise I think I am going to have to stay with LOR.

Thanks Mike Mais

[budude]

Is there any place I can buy the complete kits now so I can get started converting my LOR over, & not have to wait till June. I am new to the DIY & want time to get this down otherwise I think I am going to have to stay with LOR.

Thanks Mike Mais

Hi Mike - Welcome to DIYC!

If you are looking for LOR replacements have you seen the Renard 8/16/24SS series of controllers? The Renard 16SS would be the same as a LOR 1602W in capacity. It's an all-in-one configuration (controller+SSRs). There is a coop going on now I believe...

The SSREz is for controllers with external SSRs like the Ren64, Helix, Grinch, FireGod, etc.

[g2ktcf]

Chris, (g2ktcf)
Your PM box is full..........

I just noticed. Thanks!

[g2ktcf]

Can I order just PCB's? If so I'll take 10 as I already have most parts.
Thanks
Rick


Ricky,

wjohn has the PCBs in stock. The pricing for the boards does not really change as he orders the boards in batches and then sells them off slowly. The benefit is you have a complete kit that allows you go to to a completed unit quickly.

Good Luck,
Chris

[g2ktcf]

I willing to help again, just need to do smaller batches this time.

Just in case you guys do not know this, lbro actually does all the sorting, counting, packing and mailing for this coop. I travel ALOT for work and can never be sure of when I am going to be home. So I source parts, get quotes, take payments and order all the parts.

This actually helps as it splits the coop work between two of us and makes it less demanding. Of course, I AM STILL FULLY RESPONSIBLE so if anything happens, its my fault not his.

From the interest already, we will exceed the normal coop limits. Based on this I may have to take the coop off site. Please do not let the quantities you see here distract you. I want to make sure that everyone gets the stuff they need.

As to the June time frame....I actually do this on purpose. There are two "waves" of coop times. The first is now until late April. However, this is too early for the second wave that happens in September (all the last minute folks). I typically buy extra parts to handle the second wave. This is all money out of my pocket (and yes it ends up being several grand) so I want to sell these as quickly as possible.

I will try to get some idea of the pricing within the next couple of weeks. Rest assured, I can get these much less than anyone else because I buy in quantities that few can handle.

Cheers,
Chris

[sunhouse]

I'm in for 17 (16 and an extra in case i fry something) If 17 can't be done 16 is fine

[will3ishere]

i am in for 16 would like to have it all. thanks you the man:mrgreen:

[g2ktcf]

okay...one thing that just came up. rstehle wants his parts right away and may be running a small coop for these now. If you want them early, then keep a look out for this one. I will still keep my plans as they are....

Cheers,
Chris

[mwo040]

I would be looking at around 32 possibly more

[akonkman]

I'm interested in parts and enclosures for 8 SSRez's. I already bought the PCBs from wjohn. Will there be an option on this COOP to get the parts and enclosures without the PCBs? (Just asking, cuz the 2009 COOP appears to have been for complete sets, including PCBs)

Thanks!

[tlorek]

I'd be up for 12-16 with PCBs and enclosures.

[hartlove]

I'd be interested in 16 for a Ren 64 that I'd like to build this year-- is anybody planning on doing a coop for that?

[g2ktcf]

I'd be interested in 16 for a Ren 64 that I'd like to build this year-- is anybody planning on doing a coop for that?

I have not seen any coops for the REN64. However, I do have a Mouser BOM loaded. If you want it send me a PM and I will get you link.

[rdartist]

10-20 sets depending on the price with enclosure

[keebler]

Chris, i would be willing to help too if you need me

[tigerscott]

17 for me please

[Entropy]

Very likely 8-16 complete sets (PCBs, parts, enclosures) with a desire for an additional 8 PCBs.

This is, of course, contingent on the commit date being after April. If the commit date is prior to April, the number will be far lower. (Sorry for the wishi-washiness, but there are currently things in motion beyond my control that could affect my life significantly in April. I'm fairly confident I'll be OK but I'm cutting way back on making financial commitments until then.)

[lortiz]

Would be interested in at least 5 complete kits (board+parts+enclosure)...

Leo

[macebobo]

*edit
zero, just did my taxes!

[rshea]

16 parts for me

[kychristmas]

With a limit of 150 Kits, Its looks like there's a need for 2 or 3 Co-Ops

[bcowan]

I could be interested in 8 complete kits and 24 boards.

[g2ktcf]

With a limit of 150 Kits, Its looks like there's a need for 2 or 3 Co-Ops

Everyone, please go back and read the original post. This is almost certainly going to be an offsite coop. This means I have NO LIMITATIONS.

Why am I doing this? Well for one, the amount of parts on an SSR are small compared to other BOMs. You cannot get any real purchasing power based on 150 units...that is only 600 TRIACs. When you get beyond a 1000, that is when the cost becomes workable. If a bunch of folks decide to start running a bunch of 150 qty coops, I will pull the plug on this one. It does not make fiscal sense to run this at any quantity less than 300-500. I am not trying to be ugly but there is a huge amount of effort that goes into these things and I will not do that for only 5-10 participants.

Also, I may buy extra parts (especially if I can get to another price break) and offer the left overs for sale.

Cheers,
Chris

[Jrd]

I see that the price was $12.94 a set (PCB, Parts, Enclosure) in the last coop with shipping at $15 for 9-16 sets. Can you tell me how much a set of parts and enclosure would be without a PCB please? I am considering buying my PCBs from WJohn with my Ren 64. I am sorry if this would make things complicated and I would understand if you didn't want to sell a set like this but I don't have much money to put towards this project right now so I have to plan out my costs before buying.

[kychristmas]

Chris,
I wasn't saying that at all. I didn't mean to imply that there should be multiple ones. I didn't catch where you said that you were running it off-site and if you are willing to deal with it, then that's great.

Kelly

[g2ktcf]

I see that the price was $12.94 a set (PCB, Parts, Enclosure) in the last coop with shipping at $15 for 9-16 sets. Can you tell me how much a set of parts and enclosure would be without a PCB please? I am considering buying my PCBs from WJohn with my Ren 64. I am sorry if this would make things complicated and I would understand if you didn't want to sell a set like this but I don't have much money to put towards this project right now so I have to plan out my costs before buying.

typically, you subtract $2 for each PCB. However, I have not started getting pricing together just yet. Given that there is significant interest, I will get moving on this next week.

I would do the same if I were you BTW. If you are already getting the other parts from wjohn it only makes sense to get them all at one time.

FYI, here is a link to my Mouser BOM for the REN64 (https://mouser.com/ProjectManager/ProjectDetail.aspx?AccessID=8adb441d64).

[dirknerkle]

Chris, link to your BOM is not working.

[g2ktcf]

Chris, link to your BOM is not working.

Hang on....something got lost in the copy and paste. I will fix it ASAP.

Thanks!!!!

Also, there seems to be a lot of interest in the REN64 this year. I could maybe do a coop on this one too if there is interest. Just a thought.

[kylenewman]

I would be interested in a Ren64 COOP, as i said ealier i would purchase 65 SSR's without enclosures. Plus if you were doing a Ren64 i'd be interested in 4 of those.

[Skunberg]

Put me down for 6 w/encloseures

[aaron_lowther]

Hello everyone. I was wondering about this coop buy thing, I live in Australia, where sadly I have to admit that the whole automated xmas lights thingy hasnt really taken off yet, but my father-inlaw and I wish to fix that....Since I am a little far away to join in the coop, because shipping would be a lil ridiculous, I have found a PCB manufacturer near my work who is pretty reasonably priced. I was wondering if anyone had the actual proper design files that i might be able to get some boards made over here.........
cheers
aaron

[dirknerkle]

Welcome to DIYC! You'll have a blast here.

You should send a PM to wjohn. He's a fellow Aussie and usually stocks a lot of the boards.

-dave

[m3lhj]

As a new member I am interested in a Ren64 board buy as well as SSR, not for sure about everything yet, but I have decided on the Ren64 design

[oldgezzer]

I would be intrested in 8 /w enclosures.

[plasmata]

Count me in for about 4.

*** Edit ***

Oops! Sorry, make that none. I already got in the group buy by rstehle which completed before this one.

[rovingmind]

i'd be in for 4-6 sets depending on price for Grinch controller

[Skunberg]

I'd also be interested in one or two Ren 64

Brian

[jonedwste]

EDIT: May want 1 Ren64 still, but for now have gone with another board...

Thanks!

[g2ktcf]

I might be interested in 1 or 2 REN64 sets and atleast 17 sets of the SSRez..

Would these buys be open/closed at the same time?

Thanks,
Jon

No, I can't do two coops at the same time. I will most likely do the REN64 first, then follow up the SSRez right after.

[jonedwste]

EDIT: I went with the Ren 24SS's instead.. Thanks!

who knows though... I may still want a Ren64...?

[leroylee13]

I am interested in 8 SSRez with parts, boards, and enclosures.

[plasmata]

There's so many coops in the works that I'm starting to lose track of which I've posted in. :confused: Anyhoo, I posted earlier that I want 4 SSrez's but I need to change that to none. I have 4 coming from the other group buy by rstehle which completed before this one.

[rjchu]

I'm really interested in the ssrez coop but if you're doing the ren64 first I'd be game for qty 1 bom only to build out the second ren64xc I've got here from wjohn. Then when the ssrez coop comes around a ton of those boms as I have the pcbs already. Hope I'm patient enoung to wait that long! ;)

-joni-

[Whipper]

I'm interested in 4-8 depending on price and due date. I saw the post for the Group Buy from rstehle, but D@mn a 6 hour window from 6pm to midnight is not much time to even read the past posts.
Will these really be delivered/ordered in May? That only leaves me with 4 months to Oct to learn how to program Vixen and setup my display. At least it might be better that my Gramy 8 CH out-of-the-box set I got last year.

[Sharkey]

Wow! I wish I'd seen this a bit earlier!

I'd be interested in 16 complete sets, PCB, Parts, and Enclosure!

Thank you for the Coop!

Edit: I should probably mention that these would be for the Renard and 120VAC
Thanks!


I'm interested in 4-8 depending on price and due date. I saw the post for the Group Buy from rstehle, but D@mn a 6 hour window from 6pm to midnight is not much time to even read the past posts.
Will these really be delivered/ordered in May? That only leaves me with 4 months to Oct to learn how to program Vixen and setup my display. At least it might be better that my Gramy 8 CH out-of-the-box set I got last year.
You can start Vixen now! All you have to do is setup the channels and get an Advanced Preview window running to test it out, you don't need the hardware yet! Check out the simple video tutorials!

[Sharkey]

-Snip- (Sorry double post)

[brandoon]

I'd like 16 sets.

[DIY Guy]

Count me in for 6.

[Joe]

I'm in for 16 Sets of SSRez.

[mikentn]

Put me down for 4. Thanks!

[oldgezzer]

I would be intested in 8 full sets witn enclosures.

[g2ktcf]

I will open the SSRez coop with in the next month (I am still traveling!). I will work with one of my websites as point to post the rules and such on.

For the REN64's, we have lots of interest and I am working to kick that one off soon as possible.

Just FYI!

Chris

[dirknerkle]

I will open the SSRez coop with in the next month (I am still traveling!).

Geeezzzzz, Chris! When are you going to be able to come home?!?!? :-(

[rjchu]

That's great news! Will you announce here or in a new thread? I only ask as I'm not checking this thread as often as I was before since it's mainly "me too" posts and I'm continually disappointed as I'm anxiously waiting for the "it's open" post! ;)

Thanks for offering the co-op, it should help make things go much smoothly and cheaper for the 2010 plans I've got!

-joni-




I will open the SSRez coop with in the next month (I am still traveling!). I will work with one of my websites as point to post the rules and such on.

For the REN64's, we have lots of interest and I am working to kick that one off soon as possible.

Just FYI!

Chris

[frankr]

I would be interested in some of the SSRezs and possibly a Ren64 (Still need to decide how I want the display to look next year).

Frank

[frankv]

Hey, it's next month here now! :twisted:

Count me in for at least 10 sets of SSRez boards and components, no enclosures.

[zztopmo]

I am in. Just let me know.

[plasmata]

If I only want 1 Ren 64 would it be cost effective to get in on a coop knowing that I'd have to essentially pay for shipping the parts twice? Or is the price point savings on the parts enough to still make it cheaper overall?

Chris, any clue what the coop price might be (approximately)?

[kychristmas]

If I only want 1 Ren 64 would it be cost effective to get in on a coop knowing that I'd have to essentially pay for shipping the parts twice? Or is the price point savings on the parts enough to still make it cheaper overall?

Chris, any clue what the coop price might be (approximately)?


Last year, I did a small Ren 64 Parts Co-op. As I recall, it saved about 30%. Not huge, but certainly worth it if you don't mind waiting. Of course, if you don't want to wait, it may not be worth it. If Chris does do a Ren 64 Co-Op, it will likely be much bigger and would provide a bit more savings. Because it does not have Triacs, the Ren 64 has the least impact from Co-Op.

Now, this post was about interest in a SSRez Group Buy. From the sounds of things, I'm guessing it will save nearly 50% over buying 16 SSRez parts kits directly from Mouser. The Triacs gets immensely cheaper when you get to large quantities.

Kelly

[g2ktcf]

If I only want 1 Ren 64 would it be cost effective to get in on a coop knowing that I'd have to essentially pay for shipping the parts twice? Or is the price point savings on the parts enough to still make it cheaper overall?

Chris, any clue what the coop price might be (approximately)?


you mean for the REN64? YES! The parts should qualify for free shipping since they will be very expensive for the whole order. I am thinking $40 + shipping you but I need to verify everything still. If you get it straight from mouser, you are looking at $52 + shipping to you. Even if we pay shipping from Mouser to me, the shipping cost gets washed a good bit since it is split between so many people.

[keebler]

chris,
so when do you think the co-op will be launched?
you had said around MARCH. is that still valid?
if you can, please post prices including shipping as soon as you know them.

thanks man!




and i am interested in knowing when the ren64 co-op will be launched.

[lbro]

Hey Chris,

I am still in for same as last time.

Lou

[sparky588]

I would be in for 18 boards and parts:p

[christmas-light]

Hi chris

I saw in a other post that the price last year was about $USD 13

Is it all most the same price this year ?? ;-)

C - L

[g2ktcf]

Hi chris

I saw in a other post that the price last year was about $USD 13

Is it all most the same price this year ?? ;-)

C - L

I expect it to be less this year... :D

[christmas-light]

I expect it to be less this year... :D

Okay.. It just sow I have some thing to conutolate on :D

[klomp10]

I would be in for at least 9 boards + parts probably more though.

[dirknerkle]

Okay.. It just sow I have some thing to conutolate on :D

I've heard about this sort of thing. I think they've developed a medicine for it. :rolleyes:

[bigan]

My post may be a little late(im a newbie, give me some slack! :)) but I would be interested in 16 complete SSRez's and 2 renard 64 sets. I may want more SSRez sets to fill my 2nd ren64 board but it all depends price and avaliable funds.

Thanks for getting this COOP together!

[lbro]

not late yet, still taking a count. the more ordered the cheaper it gets.

[Dragon88]

I am in for 8

[rbatch]

I would be intreasted in two Renard 24 with parts

[will3ishere]

I would be intreasted in two Renard 24 with parts

Wrong thread for that style of board. And you need to specify
ss or hc two types of ren 24

[rjchu]

Wow, I just did an informal count and taking the low numbers (for those that said things like "I'd be in for 8-16") and ignoring the "me too" posts with no quantities given, I count 426 SSRez's total so far.

That's lots of blinking and flashing!

Can't wait for it to start. My soldering iron is pre-heating now!

-joni-

[christmas-light]

I've heard about this sort of thing. I think they've developed a medicine for it. :rolleyes:

Really ??

If they have then I got to have some of it :p

[g2ktcf]

THE SSRez COOP is.......oops..not yet.

Okay, the interest is right...so I am trying to speed this up. However, I have to get my website running first so we have a place to do all this. Please be patient while I work through it and we will get this thing going!

Chris

[frankv]

Hi Chris,

I'm being patient. Honest!

I'm hoping to get my brother to bring them to New Zealand for me and save a heap of money on postage... he leaves the US early June.

So.... any progress on this?

Frank

[flash383]

Depending on the fnal price, I could go for 16-32. This sure beats remembering in October or Novmber that I forgot to get more. Thanks!

[sparky588]

Been a while so I'm not sure if I posted or not. I would be in for 24 PCB's and BOM's

Thanks
Joe

[Afroopuff]

I am in for a good 'ol Number 6!

Largest Group Buy ever?

[Slashdude]

I would be in for 16 BOM's and PCB's.


...Also waiting for the Ren64 group buy

<Edit - changing from 58-64 down to 16>

[Nadurru]

This is my first year of getting this together so please bare with me here. I have 1 Olsen 595 board built and one to build. I want to run the 64 channels. Each SSR will handle 4 channels, right? If so then I would need 16 boards. If I'm in error please let me know.

[Jakeleg1969]

This is my first year of getting this together so please bare with me here. I have 1 Olsen 595 board built and one to build. I want to run the 64 channels. Each SSR will handle 4 channels, right? If so then I would need 16 boards. If I'm in error please let me know.

You have it figured properly. Each outport port on the Olsen 595 (RJ45 connector) is designed to feed one 4 channel SSR board. If you have two Olsen boards, then you will need 16 SSRs for each board. I am new to this as well, but I have this part mastered. And it only took me 4 months. Gotta go... Christmas is getting close and I still have a lot to work on...

Jerry in Louisiana

[Nadurru]

Thanks Jake, Thats what I thought, now it's just getting the boards and the BOM so I can start building them.

[rjchu]

The suspense is killing me! So far for my first year (2010) I've got:

100 x 100ct mini's (various quantities of red, green, blue and white)
1 x Ren64 assembled and tested
1 x Ren16 assembled and tested
3 x Ren24SS PCB's with parts coming via Wayne's co-op
4 x SSRez's assembled and tested
1 x Ren64 PCB ready for parts
1 x Ren16 PCB ready for parts
3 x USB to RS232's
3 x RS232 to RS485's
1 x VAST FM02 (ordered not received yet)
1 x PICIT2 and other PIC goodies thanks to Kelly's co-op
which leaves...

28 x SSRez PCB's waiting for this co-op to launch!

Can't wait!

-joni-




THE SSRez COOP is.......oops..not yet.

Okay, the interest is right...so I am trying to speed this up. However, I have to get my website running first so we have a place to do all this. Please be patient while I work through it and we will get this thing going!

Chris

[dirknerkle]

The suspense is killing me! So far for my first year (2010) I've got:

100 x 100ct mini's (various quantities of red, green, blue and white)
1 x Ren64 assembled and tested
1 x Ren16 assembled and tested
3 x Ren24SS PCB's with parts coming via Wayne's co-op
4 x SSRez's assembled and tested
1 x Ren64 PCB ready for parts
1 x Ren16 PCB ready for parts
3 x USB to RS232's
3 x RS232 to RS485's
1 x VAST FM02 (ordered not received yet)
1 x PICIT2 and other PIC goodies thanks to Kelly's co-op
which leaves...

28 x SSRez PCB's waiting for this co-op to launch!

Can't wait!

-joni-


Ohhhhhhhhhh.... mannnnnn.... are you ever hooked!!! ;)

[Nadurru]

When this does come together I would like to get in on 16 pcb's and BOM's please.

[RichF]

It should not be much longer until this coop is announced. Keep watching here.

[rjchu]

Yeah, I know. Unfortunately the only "support group" I can find is this one which doesn't exactly do much to ease the addiction! ;)

-joni-


Ohhhhhhhhhh.... mannnnnn.... are you ever hooked!!! ;)

[rstehle]

Has anyone actually heard from Chris lately?

[Skunberg]

I assume he's out of the country again and will have a large backlog of PMs when he gets back.

[RichF]

Chris is still alive I was able to talk to him yesterday for a very short time.

[frankv]

Sorry Chris, I'm pulling out of this -- I've joined another Coop.

Frank

[rovingmind]

any update chris?

[g2ktcf]

Gents,

The only thing holding this up right now is my website. I have a few folks working with me to fix the issues. I expect to get it going next week.

I will keep you updated!

thanks,
Chris

[dlovely]

Thanks Chris for getting the CoOp (http://www.foleyfamilychristmas.com/wordpress) setup and running! Look forward to the Ren64 soon.

[plasmata]

look forward to the ren64 soon.

+1 .